Re: Trivial bug on apt-file (Was : Re: Development standards for unstable)

2006-01-16 Thread Jesus Climent
On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 01:07:58PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sat, Jan 14, 2006 at 06:00:41PM +0100, Jesus Climent wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 07:31:17PM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: > > > and this answers IMHO what the maintainer wants a patch for: a system > > > that would work with all d

Re: Trivial bug on apt-file (Was : Re: Development standards for unstable)

2006-01-15 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 02:34:32PM +0900, Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > As stated by the Debian Policy Manual : > > "The Depends field should be used if the depended-on package is required > for the depending package to provide a significant amount of > functionality." >

Re: Trivial bug on apt-file (Was : Re: Development standards for unstable)

2006-01-14 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, Jan 14, 2006 at 06:00:41PM +0100, Jesus Climent wrote: > On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 07:31:17PM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: > > and this answers IMHO what the maintainer wants a patch for: a system > > that would work with all download managers. > Which is something it is not going to work. Huh? W

Re: Trivial bug on apt-file (Was : Re: Development standards for unstable)

2006-01-14 Thread Jesus Climent
On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 07:31:17PM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: > > and this answers IMHO what the maintainer wants a patch for: a system > that would work with all download managers. Which is something it is not going to work. > The current intent to NMU is proposing curl | wget which doesn't need >

Re: Trivial bug on apt-file (Was : Re: Development standards for unstable)

2006-01-13 Thread Luk Claes
Jesus Climent wrote: > On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 12:07:02PM -0600, Bill Allombert wrote: > >>There are technical ways to solve the problem (e.g. to depend on >>wget|curl and to detect which one is available at start up). >> >>If the mainatiner is willing to give more input than 'it is not a bug' >

Re: Trivial bug on apt-file (Was : Re: Development standards for unstable)

2006-01-13 Thread Jesus Climent
On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 12:07:02PM -0600, Bill Allombert wrote: > > There are technical ways to solve the problem (e.g. to depend on > wget|curl and to detect which one is available at start up). > > If the mainatiner is willing to give more input than 'it is not a bug' > on what behaviour he w

Re: Trivial bug on apt-file (Was : Re: Development standards for unstable)

2006-01-13 Thread Luk Claes
Anthony Towns wrote: > On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 06:48:38PM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: > >>>But if you read this bug (#307833), you'd see that the maintainer doesn't >>>consider it a bug, and has documented why in the README file. >> >>It is a bug as the package is not usable without curl or wget insta

Re: Trivial bug on apt-file (Was : Re: Development standards for unstable)

2006-01-13 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 10:39:01AM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, Charles Plessy wrote: > > dependancy on curl. However, declaring proper dependancies for the > > package is a "should", not a "must", so if a debian developper is free > > to creating uninstallable p

Re: Trivial bug on apt-file (Was : Re: Development standards for unstable)

2006-01-13 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, Charles Plessy wrote: > dependancy on curl. However, declaring proper dependancies for the > package is a "should", not a "must", so if a debian developper is free > to creating uninstallable packages if he fancies this. Disclaimer: I am not talking about apt-file. I sure ho

Re: Trivial bug on apt-file (Was : Re: Development standards for unstable)

2006-01-13 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 02:34:32PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 04:47:33AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote : > > On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 06:48:38PM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: > > > > But if you read this bug (#307833), you'd see that the maintainer > > > > doesn't > > > > conside

Re: Trivial bug on apt-file (Was : Re: Development standards for unstable)

2006-01-12 Thread Charles Plessy
On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 04:47:33AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote : > On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 06:48:38PM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: > > > But if you read this bug (#307833), you'd see that the maintainer doesn't > > > consider it a bug, and has documented why in the README file. > > It is a bug as the pac

Re: Trivial bug on apt-file (Was : Re: Development standards for unstable)

2006-01-12 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 06:48:38PM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: > > But if you read this bug (#307833), you'd see that the maintainer doesn't > > consider it a bug, and has documented why in the README file. > It is a bug as the package is not usable without curl or wget installed. > Though, I give him

Re: Trivial bug on apt-file (Was : Re: Development standards for unstable)

2006-01-12 Thread Bill Allombert
On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 04:57:46PM +0100, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 12:03:28AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > > Of course, this is trivial, but fixing this bug (251 days old) is > > also trivial. Then why complain ? I feel that it gives a bad image of > > debian, when it

Re: Trivial bug on apt-file (Was : Re: Development standards for unstable)

2006-01-12 Thread Luk Claes
Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 12:03:28AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > >>Of course, this is trivial, but fixing this bug (251 days old) is >>also trivial. Then why complain ? I feel that it gives a bad image of >>debian, when it suggests to use a broken tool while another

Re: Trivial bug on apt-file (Was : Re: Development standards for unstable)

2006-01-12 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 12:03:28AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Of course, this is trivial, but fixing this bug (251 days old) is > also trivial. Then why complain ? I feel that it gives a bad image of > debian, when it suggests to use a broken tool while another one is being > repaired. But if

Trivial bug on apt-file (Was : Re: Development standards for unstable)

2006-01-12 Thread Charles Plessy
On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 02:21:03PM +0100, Olaf van der Spek wrote : > > ... > > If a maintainer would not manage to respond to an RC bug for three months > > the package is obviousely not maintained and should be taken over by > > somebody else, IMHO. > > I wish something like that applied to all