Re: Usefulness of SSMTP [Was: Should MUA only Recommend mail-transfer-agent?]

2003-08-07 Thread Andreas Metzler
Mark Ferlatte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > I'm not sure why ssmtp has TLS disabled by default; perhaps a bug should be > filed? It seems like it would provide all of the needed outgoing MTA > functionality without requiring a daemon. Copyright? At least the version in woody is straightforwa

Re: Usefulness of SSMTP

2003-08-07 Thread Andreas Metzler
Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > SSMTP is not acceptable for those of us that use SMTP AUTH+TLS, unless > it supports those (it didn't, last time I looked). In fact, there don't > appear to be any "dumb" MTAs (like ssmtp or nullmailer) that support TLS > and SMTP authentication. Thi

Re: Usefulness of SSMTP [Was: Should MUA only Recommend mail-transfer-agent?]

2003-08-06 Thread Mark Ferlatte
Joe Wreschnig said on Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 06:32:14PM -0500: > On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 18:04, Mark Ferlatte wrote: > > I'm not sure why ssmtp has TLS disabled by default; perhaps a bug should be > > filed? It seems like it would provide all of the needed outgoing MTA > > functionality without requir

Re: Usefulness of SSMTP [Was: Should MUA only Recommend mail-transfer-agent?]

2003-08-06 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 18:04, Mark Ferlatte wrote: > I'm not sure why ssmtp has TLS disabled by default; perhaps a bug should be > filed? It seems like it would provide all of the needed outgoing MTA > functionality without requiring a daemon. Looking at the SSMTP bug page, the package seems to be

Re: Usefulness of SSMTP [Was: Should MUA only Recommend mail-transfer-agent?]

2003-08-06 Thread Mark Ferlatte
Joe Wreschnig said on Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 05:43:49PM -0500: > Interesting. I'm running unstable, but I can't find instructions on > enabling TLS anywhere (nor does SSMTP seem to link to any TLS > libraries). I see mention of it in the README (specifically, only a > credit for it), but not the manu

Re: Usefulness of SSMTP [Was: Should MUA only Recommend mail-transfer-agent?]

2003-08-06 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 17:09, Mark Ferlatte wrote: > ssmtp in unstable supports TLS and certificate based AUTH (so you can > authenticate on a per machine basis for relay). It appears to have AUTH > CRAM-MD5 support, but it's unclear if that's distributable (according to > comments in the source).

Re: Usefulness of SSMTP [Was: Should MUA only Recommend mail-transfer-agent?]

2003-08-06 Thread Mark Ferlatte
Joe Wreschnig said on Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 04:39:10PM -0500: > > And is a much better choice than expecting every user to locally > > configure smtp settings in the MUA. Lack of direct-SMTP support in mutt > > is a good thing. > > SSMTP is not acceptable for those of us that use SMTP AUTH+TLS, un

Re: Usefulness of SSMTP [Was: Should MUA only Recommend mail-transfer-agent?]

2003-08-06 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 09:27, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 06:51:12PM +1000, Brian May wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 09:35:29AM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > > > IMHO using any local mailer is a bad idea on a desktop system. You send > > > off the mail, your MUA says "Sent