On Thu, 2016-07-28 at 15:25 +0100, Simon McVittie wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 at 08:33:21 -0400, Marvin Renich wrote:
> > Do you mean metapackage or virtual package? Wouldn't a virtual
> > package
> > be exactly the right thing for this? Then dbus-user-session and
> > dbus-x11 would each "Provid
On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 at 08:33:21 -0400, Marvin Renich wrote:
> * Simon McVittie [160727 20:04]:
> > On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 at 18:02:32 +0200, Laurent Bigonville wrote:
> > > Shouldn't this
> > > dependency only be declared at some other level (libdbus, GDBus,...)?
> >
> > I think this would have to b
Simon McVittie wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 at 18:02:32 +0200, Laurent Bigonville wrote:
>
> > If the package name is changing or if we are dropping dbus-x11 in
the future
> > that would require modifying again quite some packages.
>
> I currently count 55 direct Depends and 17 Recommends on db
* Simon McVittie [160727 20:04]:
> On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 at 18:02:32 +0200, Laurent Bigonville wrote:
> > Shouldn't this
> > dependency only be declared at some other level (libdbus, GDBus,...)?
>
> I think this would have to be a new dbus-session metapackage, unless
> I'm missing something. dbus i
Simon McVittie wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 at 23:48:42 -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
> > I can think of another reason that this might change: if we introduce an
> > (experimental, and eventually non-experimental) variant based on a
> > future stable version of kdbus.
>
> The usual difficulties of d
On 2016-07-28 01:03:04 +0100, Simon McVittie wrote:
> libdbus-1-3 shouldn't depend on a session bus, because you might only
> be using it to access the system bus;
Or because the user might not use the system bus at all, but the
application depends on libdbus-1-3 it because it's a library and
uses
On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 at 23:48:42 -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
> I can think of another reason that this might change: if we introduce an
> (experimental, and eventually non-experimental) variant based on a
> future stable version of kdbus.
The usual difficulties of depending on kernel features aside
Simon McVittie wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 at 18:02:32 +0200, Laurent Bigonville wrote:
> > Is that really up-to the individual application to declare a
> > dependency
> > against dbus-user-session | dbus-x11 ?
>
> At the moment: yes. A dependency on dbus-x11 (in jessie) or on
> dbus-user-session
On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 at 18:02:32 +0200, Laurent Bigonville wrote:
> Is that really up-to the individual application to declare a dependency
> against dbus-user-session | dbus-x11 ?
At the moment: yes. A dependency on dbus-x11 (in jessie) or on
dbus-user-session | dbus-x11 (now) can be used to signi
Simon McVittie wrote:
Hi,
Recommendations for other software that relies on D-Bus
===
This recommendation applies to ordinary apps that rely on having a
session bus but are not a core part of a desktop environment, such as
the Empathy real-ti
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