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On 29/03/13 08:19, Salvo Tomaselli wrote:
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>> What we need is someone who can reliably reproduce the issue and help
>> with debugging.
>
> I've had a probably related problem, without using GNOME
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=455
Daniel Pocock writes ("Re: Bug#455769: same problem on wheezy + Thinkpad
X220T"):
> On 02/04/13 19:57, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > I agree. But such triage should be done in a way that the maintainer
> > will agree with. Fighting with the maintainer's view of severit
❦ 2 avril 2013 19:57 CEST, Ian Jackson :
>> > Unless you are the original reporter and you need to
>> > decide in order to fill the bug, please don't. That's the
>> > role of the maintainer to do that triaging work (as
>> > already stated multiple times!).
>>
>> We encourage people to help tri
On 02/04/13 19:57, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Vincent Bernat writes ("Re: Bug#455769: same problem on wheezy + Thinkpad
> X220T"):
>> ❦ 28 mars 2013 20:38 CET, Thomas Goirand :
>>> Unless you are the original reporter and you need to
>>> decide in order t
Vincent Bernat writes ("Re: Bug#455769: same problem on wheezy + Thinkpad
X220T"):
> ❦ 28 mars 2013 20:38 CET, Thomas Goirand :
> > Unless you are the original reporter and you need to
> > decide in order to fill the bug, please don't. That's the
> > r
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 12:07:43PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> On 03/28/2013 11:47 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> >Would you provide a guarantee to all users of wheezy that you will pay
> >for their laptop repair if this issue causes damage?
>
> > Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY N
❦ 28 mars 2013 20:38 CET, Thomas Goirand :
>> I agree - classifying a bug is just a first step before I do anything
>> more about an issue
> Unless you are the original reporter and you need to
> decide in order to fill the bug, please don't. That's the
> role of the maintainer to do that triagi
> What we need is someone who can reliably reproduce the issue and help
> with debugging.
I've had a probably related problem, without using GNOME
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=455769#59
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On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 12:07:43PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> On 03/28/2013 11:47 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> >Would you provide a guarantee to all users of wheezy that you will pay
> >for their laptop repair if this issue causes damage?
>
> > Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLU
On 03/29/2013 03:32 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>
>
> On 28/03/13 18:59, Michael Biebl wrote:
> > Am 28.03.2013 18:48, schrieb Daniel Pocock:
>
> >> I clearly understand your previous feedback and agree, that is
> >> why I thought it might be helpful discussing this issue on
> >> debian-devel, to get
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On 28/03/13 18:59, Michael Biebl wrote:
> Am 28.03.2013 18:48, schrieb Daniel Pocock:
>
>> I clearly understand your previous feedback and agree, that is
>> why I thought it might be helpful discussing this issue on
>> debian-devel, to get a feel
On 28/03/13 19:12, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> Perfection is unattainable. Every Debian stable release is buggy as
> hell, and that's unavoidable, if we want to make any releases at all.
I don't think anybody raised the issue of perfection
This issue I've observed is a relative one - it was workin
On 03/29/2013 01:48 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> Thomas, you have put a lot of great work into the XCP packages and I'm
> glad I've tried them. I've also provided diagnostic information,
> patches and workarounds for those issues that I felt to be RC, so that
> the users can have the best possible e
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 06:48:09PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> If a package fails to do what it is supposed to do, isn't that a valid
> argument that it is RC?
>
> gnome-power-manager is meant to suspend a user's laptop when they shut
> the lid and put it in a carry bag. That's what the manual
On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 18:48:09 +0100
Daniel Pocock wrote:
> > This isn't the first time that you are discussing the severity of
> > bugs, and raising them to RC level instead of what they deserve,
> > which was the original severity. You did that to some of my
> > packages (for example, see #695221
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 06:48:09PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> If a package fails to do what it is supposed to do, isn't that a valid
> argument that it is RC?
No.
Or virtually every bug would be RC.
> gnome-power-manager is meant to suspend a user's laptop when they shut
> the lid and put it
Am 28.03.2013 18:48, schrieb Daniel Pocock:
> I clearly understand your previous feedback and agree, that is why I
> thought it might be helpful discussing this issue on debian-devel, to
> get a feel for how the community feels about this type of issue and it's
> severity for us and for users
dis
On 28/03/13 16:14, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 03/28/2013 06:47 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>> On 28/03/13 11:06, Julien Cristau wrote:
>>> Control: severity -1 important
>>>
>>> I am raising this bug to critical, as it meets the definition "makes
>>> unrelated software on the system (or the whole syst
On 03/28/2013 06:47 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> On 28/03/13 11:06, Julien Cristau wrote:
>> Control: severity -1 important
>>
>> I am raising this bug to critical, as it meets the definition "makes
>> unrelated software on the system (or the whole system) break"
>> No, it does not. hw will shut its
On 28-03-13 14:04, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> On 28/03/13 12:32, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>> On 28-03-13 11:47, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>>> On 28/03/13 11:06, Julien Cristau wrote:
Control: severity -1 important
I am raising this bug to critical, as it meets the definition "makes
unrelat
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 12:32:57PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> on a more personal note, why oh why would you ever want the system to suspend
> when you close the lid? That's what a suspend button is for.
My suspend button requires a function modifier and is ignored if the screen
saver is activ
On 28/03/13 12:32, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On 28-03-13 11:47, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>> On 28/03/13 11:06, Julien Cristau wrote:
>>> Control: severity -1 important
>>>
>>> I am raising this bug to critical, as it meets the definition "makes
>>> unrelated software on the system (or the whole system)
On 03/28/2013 07:32 AM, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
(on a more personal note, why oh why would you ever want the system to
suspend when you close the lid? That's what a suspend button is for. If my
laptop is compiling something, I do *not* want it to suspend when I close the
lid, thankyouverymuch. Oh
On 03/28/2013 12:33 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
Think about it another way - if you put Debian on a friend's laptop and
they suffer with this issue, would you be quoting that clause in the
license for them?
I would. Software is made by humans, it's never perfect after all and
you should always ex
On 28/03/13 12:24, Martin Wuertele wrote:
> * John Paul Adrian Glaubitz [2013-03-28 12:08]:
>
>> On 03/28/2013 11:47 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>>> Would you provide a guarantee to all users of wheezy that you will pay
>>> for their laptop repair if this issue causes damage?
>> Debian GNU/Linux come
On 28-03-13 11:47, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> On 28/03/13 11:06, Julien Cristau wrote:
>> Control: severity -1 important
>>
>> I am raising this bug to critical, as it meets the definition "makes
>> unrelated software on the system (or the whole system) break"
>> No, it does not. hw will shut itself o
* John Paul Adrian Glaubitz [2013-03-28 12:08]:
> On 03/28/2013 11:47 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> >Would you provide a guarantee to all users of wheezy that you will pay
> >for their laptop repair if this issue causes damage?
>
> > Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent
On 03/28/2013 11:47 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
Would you provide a guarantee to all users of wheezy that you will pay
for their laptop repair if this issue causes damage?
> Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent
> permitted by applicable law.
This problem happens regu
On 28/03/13 11:06, Julien Cristau wrote:
> Control: severity -1 important
>
> I am raising this bug to critical, as it meets the definition "makes
> unrelated software on the system (or the whole system) break"
> No, it does not. hw will shut itself off before getting damaged.
Would you provide a
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