On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 05:26:38PM +0300, Daniel Stone wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 04:13:10PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > So, with all that said, do you still believe it is normal that a perfectly
> > running daily build was rejected in maybe a few minutes/hours after i sent
> > that email,
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 04:13:10PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> So, with all that said, do you still believe it is normal that a perfectly
> running daily build was rejected in maybe a few minutes/hours after i sent
> that email, while i had offered to continue running it until a proper
> replacemen
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 03:58:17AM +0300, Daniel Stone wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 08:28:11PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > Notice also that both you and Colin Watson, where donated pegasos machines,
> > (and guess who arranged that), so the unavailability of a decent build
> > machine
> > is
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 08:28:11PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> Notice also that both you and Colin Watson, where donated pegasos machines,
> (and guess who arranged that), so the unavailability of a decent build machine
> is no excuse.
I can't speak for the other guys, but I have a Pegasos machine
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 03:21:12PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 12:40:48AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 03:34:30PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 10:46:24PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > > The maintainer is held respon
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 12:40:48AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 03:34:30PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 10:46:24PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > The maintainer is held responsible (and frans and joeyh have not stepped
> > > down
> > > from remin
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 01:00:16AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> Seriously, in what did this mail help ? Do you feel better now ? Was it in any
> way constructive ? In what do you believe you are better than me over this ?
Apply these same two lines to all of *your* posts to this thread (in the past
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 10:46:24PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> Well, it is what i see. There is nothing to clarify on this
> point. They removed me to get ride of me, and despite Colin's help,
> they don't really have someone to make the real work.
So Colin's help isn't real, or what?
Please don
This one time, at band camp, Jason D. Clinton said:
> On Thursday 27 April 2006 17:49, Stephen Gran wrote:
> > Nobody loves me, everybody hates me, I think I'll just eat worms.
> >
> > Lighten up, dude. Better yet, find professional help.
>
> From the outside it seems to me that his complaints ar
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 11:49:08PM +0100, Stephen Gran wrote:
> This one time, at band camp, Sven Luther said:
> > you kicked me out [...]
> > just to get ride of me [...]
> > it was more important to get ride of sven [...]
> > that you kicked the powerpc maintainer out of the project [...]
> > uth
On Thursday 27 April 2006 17:49, Stephen Gran wrote:
> Nobody loves me, everybody hates me, I think I'll just eat worms.
>
> Lighten up, dude. Better yet, find professional help.
From the outside it seems to me that his complaints are with merit. And this
is a meritocracy; not a democracy.
pgp
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 12:44:13AM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 10:46:24PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
>
> > Well, it is what i see. There is nothing to clarify on this
> > point. They removed me to get ride of me, and despite Colin's help,
> > they don't really have som
This one time, at band camp, Sven Luther said:
> you kicked me out [...]
> just to get ride of me [...]
> it was more important to get ride of sven [...]
> that you kicked the powerpc maintainer out of the project [...]
> uther contempt for all the work i did do in the past for this [...]
> you exp
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 03:34:30PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 10:46:24PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > The maintainer is held responsible (and frans and joeyh have not stepped
> > down
> > from reminding me of this in the past) of the build failure, while a
> > contribu
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 10:46:24PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> The maintainer is held responsible (and frans and joeyh have not stepped down
> from reminding me of this in the past) of the build failure, while a
> contributor is free commit fixes, without necessarily being the one to blame
> for ev
On Thursday 27 April 2006 08:19, Mike Hommey wrote:
> When will you learn you don't have to reply to every single message in a
> thread ? Frank's and my message were the exact same. Why do you feel you
> have to answer twice to the same thing ?
>
> And please stop this "Friendly" signature, it's pa
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 09:47:33PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 17:03]:
> > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 04:52:09PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > > * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 15:05]:
> > > > Andreas, do you have an explanation of why d-i commit
* Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 18:38]:
> c) The mipsel builds had been down nearly as long. And that machine
>seems to be dead. Argh.
Would you need access to another mipsel machine?
Cheers,
Andi
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* Olaf van der Spek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 17:54]:
> On 4/27/06, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 11:43:02AM -0400, Toni L. Harbaugh-Blackford
> > [Contr] wrote:
> > > Just what are the rules for someone to have commit access?
> >
> > None, it is the full dec
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 17:03]:
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 04:52:09PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 15:05]:
> > > Andreas, do you have an explanation of why d-i commit access was taken
> > > from
> > > me, and why i find out only now as
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 12:36:56PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Toni L. Harbaugh-Blackford [Contr] wrote:
> > I don't think you understand. There was not a peep on the list about
> > anything being up with the daily image until Sven explicitely stated it.
>
> All of us who read http://people.debian.
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 07:10:08PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 06:46:11PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> > (dropping the ridiculous CC list, AFAICT everybody is subscribed)
> >
> > On Thursday 27 April 2006 17:47, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > None, it is the full decision of the pro
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 06:46:11PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> (dropping the ridiculous CC list, AFAICT everybody is subscribed)
>
> On Thursday 27 April 2006 17:47, Sven Luther wrote:
> > None, it is the full decision of the project admin, and i believe what
> > happened here is that one such proje
(dropping the ridiculous CC list, AFAICT everybody is subscribed)
On Thursday 27 April 2006 17:47, Sven Luther wrote:
> None, it is the full decision of the project admin, and i believe what
> happened here is that one such project admin did let some petty
> personal considerations overstep his re
Toni L. Harbaugh-Blackford [Contr] wrote:
> I don't think you understand. There was not a peep on the list about
> anything being up with the daily image until Sven explicitely stated it.
All of us who read http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/build-logs.html
on a daily basis knew that the powerpc
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 11:43:02AM -0400, Toni L. Harbaugh-Blackford [Contr]
wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Rene Engelhard wrote:
>
> > > > >
> > > > > I stepped back from d-i powerpc port maintainer, not as d-i
> contributor.
> >
> >
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Rene Engelhard wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I stepped back from d-i powerpc port maintainer, not as d-i
contributor.
>
> > >
> > > So there apparently was a misunderstanding.
> [...]
> > who was kicked out you mea
On 4/27/06, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 11:43:02AM -0400, Toni L. Harbaugh-Blackford [Contr]
> wrote:
> > Just what are the rules for someone to have commit access?
>
> None, it is the full decision of the project admin, and i believe what
> happened here is th
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 11:43:02AM -0400, Toni L. Harbaugh-Blackford [Contr]
wrote:
> Just what are the rules for someone to have commit access?
None, it is the full decision of the project admin, and i believe what
happened here is that one such project admin did let some petty personal
consider
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 05:32:42PM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote:
> Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 05:10:17PM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Sven Luther wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 04:52:09PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > > > > * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PR
Sven Luther wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 05:10:17PM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Sven Luther wrote:
> > > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 04:52:09PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > > > * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 15:05]:
> > > > > Andreas, do you have an explanation of why
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 05:10:17PM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 04:52:09PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > > * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 15:05]:
> > > > Andreas, do you have an explanation of why d-i commit access was taken
>
Hi,
Sven Luther wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 04:52:09PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 15:05]:
> > > Andreas, do you have an explanation of why d-i commit access was taken
> > > from
> > > me, and why i find out only now as i was going to fix the iss
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 04:52:09PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 15:05]:
> > Andreas, do you have an explanation of why d-i commit access was taken from
> > me, and why i find out only now as i was going to fix the issue ?
>
> http://lists.debian.org/debia
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 15:05]:
> Andreas, do you have an explanation of why d-i commit access was taken from
> me, and why i find out only now as i was going to fix the issue ?
http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/03/msg01075.html sounds like
you stepped back, and
http://lis
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 03:17:08PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 03:07:36PM +0200, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 02:27:35PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
> > > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 02:19:34PM +0200, Sven Luther
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 03:15:17PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 02:19:34PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > Because they kicked out the powerpc porter ? Do you not think this is reason
> > enough to consider debian for powerpc dead
>
> No, this is only reason enough to look f
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > I would have expected to see some mention of it on the list so people who
> > don't stay on IRC (and people who are only interested in the ppc
architecture)
> > would know what was going on.
>
> I never doubted that. :)
>
I don't think yo
Sven,
When will you learn you don't have to reply to every single message in a
thread ? Frank's and my message were the exact same. Why do you feel you
have to answer twice to the same thing ?
And please stop this "Friendly" signature, it's pathetic and actually
sounds stupid.
Mike
On Thu, Apr
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 03:07:36PM +0200, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 02:27:35PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 02:19:34PM +0200, Sven Luther
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I was going to fix it, maybe it would have been fixed alread
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 02:40:08PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> Of course, best that could happen now would be if someone just takes up
> >> the loose ends, and tries to fix the issues - and I hope someone just
> >> does.
> >
> > Yeah, problem is we wh
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 02:19:34PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> Because they kicked out the powerpc porter ? Do you not think this is reason
> enough to consider debian for powerpc dead
No, this is only reason enough to look for a new powerpc porter.
Michael
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On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 02:27:35PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 02:19:34PM +0200, Sven Luther
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I was going to fix it, maybe it would have been fixed already, but no,
> > the d-i team decided this otherwise.
>
> You can't *commit*, but you stil
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 02:53:07PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Toni L. Harbaugh-Blackford [Contr] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 14:38]:
> > I don't think you understand. There was not a peep on the list about
> > anything being up with the daily image until Sven explicitely stated it.
> > I woul
* Toni L. Harbaugh-Blackford [Contr] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 14:38]:
> I don't think you understand. There was not a peep on the list about
> anything being up with the daily image until Sven explicitely stated it.
> I would have expected the maintainer or others privy to the situation
> to ha
Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Of course, best that could happen now would be if someone just takes up
>> the loose ends, and tries to fix the issues - and I hope someone just
>> does.
>
> Yeah, problem is we where already there a month ago, and see what happened.
>
> I was going to fix
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 02:19:34PM +0200, Sven Luther
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was going to fix it, maybe it would have been fixed already, but no,
> the d-i team decided this otherwise.
You can't *commit*, but you still can send patches, can't you ?
Mike
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On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 01:59:54PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Toni L. Harbaugh-Blackford [Contr] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 13:53]:
> > On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > > * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 13:23]:
> > > > Dear fellow powerpc folk, this clearly means th
* Toni L. Harbaugh-Blackford [Contr] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 13:53]:
> On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 13:23]:
> > > Dear fellow powerpc folk, this clearly means that the debian support for
> > > powerpc is dead or almost so, and i s
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 13:23]:
> > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 12:53:12PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> > > On Thursday 27 April 2006 12:14, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > > 1) daily build business card and netinst isos are failing to bui
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 01:30:17PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > Oh fun, i don't have any commit access to the d-i repo anymore, so i can't
> > even fix this issue myself. This clearly shows the pettiness of the d-i
> > team,
> > i am disgusted. ...
> >
> > Dear fellow powerpc folk, this clearl
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 01:30:17PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> I'd rather prefer if you don't overexegerate.
Yes, please restrict yourself to the levels of exaggeration which are
appropriate for Debian mailing lists. ;-)
SCNR,
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* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 13:23]:
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 12:53:12PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> > On Thursday 27 April 2006 12:14, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > 1) daily build business card and netinst isos are failing to build
> > > since april 1, which means they don't include the b
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 12:53:12PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Thursday 27 April 2006 12:14, Sven Luther wrote:
> > 1) daily build business card and netinst isos are failing to build
> > since april 1, which means they don't include the broadcom tg3 module
> > at all, and are thus not really usa
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