Re: Proposal of new control field: Date

2009-02-13 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 13 févr. 09 à 03:01, jida...@jidanni.org a écrit : OK, instead of a Date: field in Packages, I can get a better idea of how well maintained a package is with an "updates vs. bugs" perspective, e.g., I would also have a look at the package's popularity. An old, barely used, broken pack

Re: Proposal of new control field: Date

2009-02-12 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 13:27:14 +0900, Paul Wise wrote: > On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 12:40 PM, wrote: > > PW> Which date would it contain? > > > > The date the maintainer made the polishing touches on the .deb. > > We don't have that date. We do have: > [...] And the date the .deb was built:

Re: Proposal of new control field: Date

2009-02-12 Thread jidanni
OK, instead of a Date: field in Packages, I can get a better idea of how well maintained a package is with an "updates vs. bugs" perspective, e.g., for package do for u in http://packages.qa.debian.org/common/index.html?src=$package \ http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=$package

Re: Proposal of new control field: Date

2009-02-12 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Enrico Zini [Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:50:41 +]: > On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 08:44:16PM +0100, Leo costela Antunes wrote: > > I would propose something like freshness of bugs vs. freshness of last > > non-binary upload, possibly weighted. This would let old but > > non-problematic packages off the

Re: Proposal of new control field: Date

2009-02-12 Thread Enrico Zini
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 08:44:16PM +0100, Leo costela Antunes wrote: > I would propose something like freshness of bugs vs. freshness of last > non-binary upload, possibly weighted. This would let old but > non-problematic packages off the radar. I don't have the time to design and test such an a

Re: Proposal of new control field: Date

2009-02-12 Thread Leo "costela" Antunes
Enrico Zini wrote: > If anyone can suggest me a decent heuristics to spot a 'rotting' package > (like, for example standards-version older than X, but you need to tell > me what X), I can automatically mine it and turn it into a debtags tag. I would propose something like freshness of bugs vs. fre

Re: Proposal of new control field: Date

2009-02-12 Thread Joerg Jaspert
>> > That way one could tell, even when offline, if a package hasn't been >> > updated in ten years. >> I hope we don't have any of those. > And those that we have, we can also spot them by old Standards-Version > in lintian warnings. > If anyone can suggest me a decent heuristics to spot a 'rott

Re: Proposal of new control field: Date

2009-02-12 Thread gregor herrmann
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 11:40:32 +0800, jida...@jidanni.org wrote: > Well OK, assuming network connections, one can always just do e.g., Or `who-uploads --date $package'. Cheers, gregor -- .''`. Home: http://info.comodo.priv.at/{,blog/} / GPG Key ID: 0x00F3CFE4 : :' : Debian GNU/Linux user, a

Re: Proposal of new control field: Date

2009-02-12 Thread Enrico Zini
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 01:27:14PM +0900, Paul Wise wrote: > > That way one could tell, even when offline, if a package hasn't been > > updated in ten years. > I hope we don't have any of those. And those that we have, we can also spot them by old Standards-Version in lintian warnings. If anyone

Re: Proposal of new control field: Date

2009-02-11 Thread Robert Collins
On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 11:40 +0800, jida...@jidanni.org wrote: > >> Imagine, "freshness dating available right there on the grocer's > >> shelf, in Packages.gz. No need for the consumer to jump through > >> additional hoops to find out." > > PW> Which date would it contain? > > The date the mainta

Re: Proposal of new control field: Date

2009-02-11 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 12:40 PM, wrote: > PW> Which date would it contain? > > The date the maintainer made the polishing touches on the .deb. We don't have that date. We do have: The date from the changelog/changes file. Depending on the workflow the maintainer uses, this could be when they

Re: Proposal of new control field: Date

2009-02-11 Thread jidanni
>> Imagine, "freshness dating available right there on the grocer's >> shelf, in Packages.gz. No need for the consumer to jump through >> additional hoops to find out." PW> Which date would it contain? The date the maintainer made the polishing touches on the .deb. That way one could tell, even w

Re: Proposal of new control field: Date

2009-02-11 Thread Russ Allbery
Paul Wise writes: > On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 9:11 AM, wrote: >> Speaking about new control fields, how about "Date:"? >> Imagine, "freshness dating available right there on the grocer's shelf, >> in Packages.gz. No need for the consumer to jump through additional >> hoops to find out." > Which

Re: Proposal of new control field: Date

2009-02-11 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 9:11 AM, wrote: > Speaking about new control fields, how about "Date:"? > > Imagine, "freshness dating available right there on the grocer's > shelf, in Packages.gz. No need for the consumer to jump through > additional hoops to find out." Which date would it contain? >

Re: Proposal of new control field: Date

2009-02-11 Thread jidanni
Speaking about new control fields, how about "Date:"? Imagine, "freshness dating available right there on the grocer's shelf, in Packages.gz. No need for the consumer to jump through additional hoops to find out." OK, never mind. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.or