Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-27 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-02-21 02:45:12, schrieb Kevin Mark: > Hi, > would it provide any automation or easier processing for the NEW > queue(ftpmasters)? would it allow for reducing package size by removing > license text from all packages and having them installed in a seperate > essential package stored in a c

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-27 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Jari, AFAIK is this already done with "debtags". Greetings Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10572 March 1977, Kevin Mark wrote: >> Only packages in NEW are checked, not every little bugfix upload. :) > I probably need one of these two at the moment: 1) sleep 2) caffine so I > mis-stated what NEW entails. It deals with initial uploads and other > situations(at least new upstream and ot

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 08:34:22AM +, Ross Burton wrote: > On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 02:45 -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > > would it provide any automation or easier processing for the NEW > > queue(ftpmasters)? > > I'd assume part of the FTP masters checking is actually verifying the > license speci

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Ross Burton
On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 02:45 -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > would it provide any automation or easier processing for the NEW > queue(ftpmasters)? I'd assume part of the FTP masters checking is actually verifying the license specified in debian/copyright is the license actually used by the source, and

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Michael Koch
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 05:17:56AM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 12:10:27PM +0100, Michael Koch wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 04:58:07AM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 10:48:30AM +0100, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > > > Hi Thomas, > > > as I just wrote t

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 12:10:27PM +0100, Michael Koch wrote: > On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 04:58:07AM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 10:48:30AM +0100, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > > Hi Thomas, > > as I just wrote to Joerge, I am not refering to the initial upload of a > > brand-new p

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 11:01:07AM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 10572 March 1977, Kevin Mark wrote: > > > I understand the general idea of a DFSG-free license but, for example, > > if Clint uploads yet another zsh package bugfix, I'm not expecting him to > > have > > it under a different lice

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Michael Koch
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 04:58:07AM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 10:48:30AM +0100, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > > Kevin Mark wrote: > > > You mean they check ever single time $RANDOM_PACKAGE enter NEW and don't > > > assume its correct until someone raises an objections? I'd at lea

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10572 March 1977, Kevin Mark wrote: > I understand the general idea of a DFSG-free license but, for example, > if Clint uploads yet another zsh package bugfix, I'm not expecting him to have > it under a different license then the last 99 uploads. And if there was > a license change, you could d

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 10:48:30AM +0100, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > Kevin Mark wrote: > > You mean they check ever single time $RANDOM_PACKAGE enter NEW and don't > > assume its correct until someone raises an objections? I'd at least > > think you could create a sub-queue in NEW so that already tag

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 10:40:33AM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 10572 March 1977, Kevin Mark wrote: > > > You mean they check ever single time $RANDOM_PACKAGE enter NEW and don't > > assume its correct until someone raises an objections? > > Yes. And the big number of rejects due to incorrect

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Kevin Mark wrote: > You mean they check ever single time $RANDOM_PACKAGE enter NEW and don't > assume its correct until someone raises an objections? I'd at least > think you could create a sub-queue in NEW so that already tagged > standard licenses would get processed faster and others would be in

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10572 March 1977, Kevin Mark wrote: > You mean they check ever single time $RANDOM_PACKAGE enter NEW and don't > assume its correct until someone raises an objections? Yes. And the big number of rejects due to incorrect debian/copyright files (more than for technical reasons) shows that it is

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10572 March 1977, Kevin Mark wrote: > would it provide any automation or easier processing for the NEW > queue(ftpmasters)? Nope. -- bye Joerg Naturally; worms that don't know what they are doing end up as fish bait, instead of getting invited into weird math experiments. --

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10572 March 1977, Jari Aalto wrote: > To my understanding the only way to obtain the license information > for a package is to actually download it (or install it) and the > study the content of > /usr/share/doc//copyright Yes. > Add new field to the debian/control (which would be generat

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Note that there was a discussion using debtags for license information on debtags-devel/debian-legal. http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/06/msg00016.html is a good starting point. Personally I believe, that if such an information should be available, debtags is more suitable to express thi

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 02:45:12AM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 11:12:46PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: [License field] > > In other words, it seems like a lot of work, and it's not clear what > > problem it would really solve. > Hi, > would it provide any automation or easier p

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Robert Collins
On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 03:54 -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 02:35:52AM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > > > [Kevin Mark] > > > would it provide any automation or easier processing for the NEW > > > queue(ftpmasters)? > > > > I doubt it. They don't take the maintainer's word f

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 02:35:52AM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > [Kevin Mark] > > would it provide any automation or easier processing for the NEW > > queue(ftpmasters)? > > I doubt it. They don't take the maintainer's word for stuff like that, > as I understand it - they double-check the co

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Kevin Mark] > would it provide any automation or easier processing for the NEW > queue(ftpmasters)? I doubt it. They don't take the maintainer's word for stuff like that, as I understand it - they double-check the copyright and license declarations in the source code. > would it allow for redu

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-20 Thread Kevin Mark
On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 11:12:46PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Jari Aalto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > To my understanding the only way to obtain the license information for a > > package is to actually download it (or install it) and the study the > > content of > > > /usr/share/doc//c

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-20 Thread Martin Wuertele
* Jari Aalto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-02-21 08:01]: > To my understanding the only way to obtain the license information > for a package is to actually download it (or install it) and the > study the content of > > /usr/share/doc//copyright That information can also be obtained from package

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Jari Aalto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > To my understanding the only way to obtain the license information for a > package is to actually download it (or install it) and the study the > content of > /usr/share/doc//copyright > It would be better if user could use the packaging search comman

PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-20 Thread Jari Aalto
To my understanding the only way to obtain the license information for a package is to actually download it (or install it) and the study the content of /usr/share/doc//copyright It would be better if user could use the packaging search commands, like grep-dctrl -F License ... --and -F