Re: Estimating number of existing Debian users

2007-05-12 Thread Bill Allombert
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 12:41:32AM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > Hi, > > I've tried to craft an hypothesis about number of Debian users, from > apt-listbugs logs. I've analysed merkel.debian.org access logs. Since > etch was released, 3 unique IPs were used to access > merkel.debian.org using

Re: Estimating number of existing Debian users

2007-05-09 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, > > This is a wild extrapolation, so the number is pretty unreliable, > > especially the usage of popcon is too small to be significant; > > A worse problem shows up if you look at the popcon graph for > apt-listbugs and compare it to the general popcon graph. While the number > of popcon use

Re: Estimating number of existing Debian users

2007-05-09 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, > I'm sorry, but the number is wrong as I replied to your blog post[0]. Thanks for the repost :) > > This is a wild extrapolation, so the number is pretty unreliable, > > especially the usage of popcon is too small to be significant; > > however, I do not know of a better way to estimate th

Re: Estimating number of existing Debian users

2007-05-09 Thread Joey Hess
Joey Hess wrote: > Hmm, if I take that number from netcraft and compare it to the popcon of > the time, which showed 3000 apache + 1000 apache2, it looks like maybe 1 > in 250 systems ran popcon in 2005. That sounds approximately right, > but we won't know what the numbers are like for etch unless

Re: Estimating number of existing Debian users

2007-05-09 Thread Joey Hess
Junichi Uekawa wrote: > I can assume there are 1,000,000 Debian users worldwide. Does this > number sound big or small to you? Too small. Recall that there were over 1 million Debian systems used as web servers alone in 2005. Hmm, if I take that number from netcraft and compare it to the popcon o

Re: Estimating number of existing Debian users

2007-05-09 Thread paddy
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 04:36:52PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I can assume there are 1,000,000 Debian users worldwide. Does this > > number sound big or small to you? > > and the numbers at http://counter.li.org/estimates.php may interest. Regards, Paddy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Estimating number of existing Debian users

2007-05-09 Thread paddy
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Re: Estimating number of existing Debian users

2007-05-09 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > (B) A unique IP represents a single system (Even though DHCP may > change IP address over a month's period, NAT may share IP addresses). That does look wrong. At least here in Germany, most broadband users get a new IP every 24 hours, so a single user c

Re: Estimating number of existing Debian users

2007-05-09 Thread paddy
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 12:41:32AM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > Hi, > > I've tried to craft an hypothesis about number of Debian users, from > apt-listbugs logs. I've analysed merkel.debian.org access logs. Since > etch was released, 3 unique IPs were used to access > merkel.debian.org using

Re: Estimating number of existing Debian users

2007-05-09 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 5/9/07, Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I've tried to craft an hypothesis about number of Debian users, from apt-listbugs logs. I've analysed merkel.debian.org access logs. Since etch was released, 3 unique IPs were used to access merkel.debian.org using apt-listbugs. Accord

Estimating number of existing Debian users

2007-05-09 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, I've tried to craft an hypothesis about number of Debian users, from apt-listbugs logs. I've analysed merkel.debian.org access logs. Since etch was released, 3 unique IPs were used to access merkel.debian.org using apt-listbugs. According to popcon, 3% of all Debian users install apt-listb