Re: Distribution and support for Debian-502-i386-netinst

2011-12-05 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2011-12-04, Ian Campbell wrote: > On Sat, 2011-12-03 at 19:35 +, Philipp Kern wrote: >> On 2011-12-03, Marc Haber wrote: >> > On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 18:58:55 + (UTC), Philipp Kern >> > wrote: >> >>On 2011-12-02, Marc Haber wrote: >> >>> I also support this and think it is a really good id

Re: Distribution and support for Debian-502-i386-netinst

2011-12-05 Thread Ian Campbell
On Sun, 2011-12-04 at 15:25 +0200, George Danchev wrote: > On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 12:38:35 +, Ian Campbell > wrote: > > On Sat, 2011-12-03 at 19:35 +, Philipp Kern wrote: > >> On 2011-12-03, Marc Haber wrote: > >> > On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 18:58:55 + (UTC), Philipp Kern > >> > wrote: > >> >

Re: Distribution and support for Debian-502-i386-netinst

2011-12-04 Thread George Danchev
On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 12:38:35 +, Ian Campbell wrote: On Sat, 2011-12-03 at 19:35 +, Philipp Kern wrote: On 2011-12-03, Marc Haber wrote: > On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 18:58:55 + (UTC), Philipp Kern > wrote: >>On 2011-12-02, Marc Haber wrote: >>> I also support this and think it is a really

Re: Distribution and support for Debian-502-i386-netinst

2011-12-04 Thread Ian Campbell
On Sat, 2011-12-03 at 19:35 +, Philipp Kern wrote: > On 2011-12-03, Marc Haber wrote: > > On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 18:58:55 + (UTC), Philipp Kern > > wrote: > >>On 2011-12-02, Marc Haber wrote: > >>> I also support this and think it is a really good idea. But please > >>> keep x.y.z-1 around an

Re: Distribution and support for Debian-502-i386-netinst

2011-12-03 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2011-12-03, Marc Haber wrote: > On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 18:58:55 + (UTC), Philipp Kern > wrote: >>On 2011-12-02, Marc Haber wrote: >>> I also support this and think it is a really good idea. But please >>> keep x.y.z-1 around and easily accessible when x.y.z is released. >>You can jigdo any old

Re: Distribution and support for Debian-502-i386-netinst

2011-12-03 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 21:21:34 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >Philipp Kern writes: >> On 2011-12-02, Marc Haber wrote: >>> I also support this and think it is a really good idea. But please >>> keep x.y.z-1 around and easily accessible when x.y.z is released. >> >> You can jigdo any old CD im

Re: Distribution and support for Debian-502-i386-netinst

2011-12-03 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 18:58:55 + (UTC), Philipp Kern wrote: >On 2011-12-02, Marc Haber wrote: >> I also support this and think it is a really good idea. But please >> keep x.y.z-1 around and easily accessible when x.y.z is released. > >You can jigdo any old CD image. How do I do this for a past

Re: Distribution and support for Debian-502-i386-netinst

2011-12-02 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Philipp Kern writes: > On 2011-12-02, Marc Haber wrote: >> I also support this and think it is a really good idea. But please >> keep x.y.z-1 around and easily accessible when x.y.z is released. > > You can jigdo any old CD image. It's just netinst that breaks. > Normal CD images will continue

Re: Distribution and support for Debian-502-i386-netinst

2011-12-02 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2011-12-02, Marc Haber wrote: > I also support this and think it is a really good idea. But please > keep x.y.z-1 around and easily accessible when x.y.z is released. You can jigdo any old CD image. It's just netinst that breaks. Normal CD images will continue to work just fine as they contai

Re: Distribution and support for Debian-502-i386-netinst

2011-12-02 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:34:03 +, Steve McIntyre wrote: >Marc Haber wrote: >>On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:26:33 +, Ben Hutchings >> wrote: >>>I can't imagine why you would expect this to work. >> >>I wouldn't. The site was just surprised by the point release and did >>notice the deployment failure

Re: Distribution and support for Debian-502-i386-netinst

2011-11-20 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 11/19/2011 01:34 AM, Steve McIntyre wrote: > In terms of *why* those updates happen, that's quite simple: if Debian > won't run on a user's new hardware, that user will typically simply > ignore Debian. In (most) other packages, this isn't so critical - the > latest shiny version doesn't matter

Re: Distribution and support for Debian-502-i386-netinst

2011-11-19 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 11:45:12PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >Goswin von Brederlow writes: > >> Steve McIntyre writes: >> >>> Marc Haber wrote: On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:26:33 +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > >I can't imagine why you would expect this to work. I woul

Re: Distribution and support for Debian-502-i386-netinst

2011-11-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Goswin von Brederlow writes: > Steve McIntyre writes: > >> Marc Haber wrote: >>>On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:26:33 +, Ben Hutchings >>> wrote: I can't imagine why you would expect this to work. >>> >>>I wouldn't. The site was just surprised by the point release and did >>>notice the depl

Re: Distribution and support for Debian-502-i386-netinst

2011-11-19 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 17:15:13 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >Marc Haber writes: >> The solution would be to offer additional install media with >> additional support. The mere chance of introducing a regression is a >> risk which I think should not be taken by Debian. > >Or just keeping the o

Re: Distribution and support for Debian-502-i386-netinst

2011-11-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Steve McIntyre writes: > Marc Haber wrote: >>On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:26:33 +, Ben Hutchings >> wrote: >>> >>>I can't imagine why you would expect this to work. >> >>I wouldn't. The site was just surprised by the point release and did >>notice the deployment failure well before the announcemen

Re: Distribution and support for Debian-502-i386-netinst

2011-11-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Marc Haber writes: > On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:48:24 +, Ben Hutchings > wrote: >>On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 05:59:59PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: >>> On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:43:32 +, "Adam D. Barratt" >>> wrote: >>> >but >>> >the kernel team have been very good in the past about fixing such thin

Re: Distribution and support for Debian-502-i386-netinst

2011-11-19 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:48:24 +, Ben Hutchings wrote: >On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 05:59:59PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: >> On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:43:32 +, "Adam D. Barratt" >> wrote: >> >but >> >the kernel team have been very good in the past about fixing such things >> >once they're aware of t

Re: Distribution and support for Debian-502-i386-netinst

2011-11-18 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 05:59:59PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:43:32 +, "Adam D. Barratt" > wrote: > >but > >the kernel team have been very good in the past about fixing such things > >once they're aware of them. > > Why does the kernel team get an execption that is unan

Re: Distribution and support for Debian-502-i386-netinst

2011-11-18 Thread Steve McIntyre
Marc Haber wrote: >On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:26:33 +, Ben Hutchings > wrote: >> >>I can't imagine why you would expect this to work. > >I wouldn't. The site was just surprised by the point release and did >notice the deployment failure well before the announcement of the >point release was receiv

Re: Distribution and support for Debian-502-i386-netinst

2011-11-18 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:43:32 +, "Adam D. Barratt" wrote: >but >the kernel team have been very good in the past about fixing such things >once they're aware of them. Why does the kernel team get an execption that is unanonimously denied to other, much less important parts of the distribution?

Re: Distribution and support for Debian-502-i386-netinst

2011-11-18 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:26:33 +, Ben Hutchings wrote: >On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 09:08:17PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: >> On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:00:26 +0100, Adam Borowski >> wrote: >> >For example: you download the current point release, burn it to a CD >> >preparing to install a bunch of servers

Re: Distribution and support for Debian-502-i386-netinst

2011-11-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ben Hutchings writes: > On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 09:08:17PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: >> On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:00:26 +0100, Adam Borowski >> wrote: >> >For example: you download the current point release, burn it to a CD >> >preparing to install a bunch of servers the next day... then suddenly >

Re: Distribution and support for Debian-502-i386-netinst

2011-11-17 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Thu, 2011-11-17 at 21:08 +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > Additionally, the new[1] tg3 driver broke compatibility with the tg3 > chip built into IBM's HS12. [...] > [1] Why the heck do we allow changes like this in stable point > releases? Increasing the range of hardware on which a Debian stable rel

Re: Distribution and support for Debian-502-i386-netinst

2011-11-17 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 09:08:17PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:00:26 +0100, Adam Borowski > wrote: > >For example: you download the current point release, burn it to a CD > >preparing to install a bunch of servers the next day... then suddenly > >there's a new stable update

Re: Distribution and support for Debian-502-i386-netinst

2011-11-17 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:00:26 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: >For example: you download the current point release, burn it to a CD >preparing to install a bunch of servers the next day... then suddenly >there's a new stable update and installation mysteriously fails. > >Wouldn't it be better to not d

Re: Distribution and support for Debian-502-i386-netinst

2011-11-17 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2011-11-17 at 16:13 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Adam Borowski writes: > > > On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 06:39:28AM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > >> On Thu, 2011-11-17 at 04:10 +, Cherukuri, Shravan Kumar wrote: > >> > I have an image of Debian-502-i386-netinst-iso which I burned

Re: Distribution and support for Debian-502-i386-netinst

2011-11-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Adam Borowski writes: > On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 06:39:28AM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: >> On Thu, 2011-11-17 at 04:10 +, Cherukuri, Shravan Kumar wrote: >> > I have an image of Debian-502-i386-netinst-iso which I burned to a CD >> > and tried to install the OS. >> >> Old netinst images gener

Re: Distribution and support for Debian-502-i386-netinst

2011-11-17 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 06:39:28AM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Thu, 2011-11-17 at 04:10 +, Cherukuri, Shravan Kumar wrote: > > I have an image of Debian-502-i386-netinst-iso which I burned to a CD > > and tried to install the OS. > > Old netinst images generally do not work, since the pac

Re: Distribution and support for Debian-502-i386-netinst

2011-11-16 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2011-11-17 at 04:10 +, Cherukuri, Shravan Kumar wrote: > Hi, > > > > I have an image of Debian-502-i386-netinst-iso which I burned to a CD > and tried to install the OS. > > In the beginning everything was going on fine until the step where we > select the mirror site to download. >

Distribution and support for Debian-502-i386-netinst

2011-11-16 Thread Cherukuri, Shravan Kumar
Hi, I have an image of Debian-502-i386-netinst-iso which I burned to a CD and tried to install the OS. In the beginning everything was going on fine until the step where we select the mirror site to download. At this point I was not able to download from the mirror websites that were displayed