Re: NMU versioning (was: DEP1: Clarifying policies and workflows for Non Maintainer Uploads)

2008-04-30 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 10:17:12PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > I'd be very unhappy about that. For one, I think using such suffix in a > > field that forms part of users' everyday's life is, uhm, inappropriate > > or disruptive. What do they care if the version is a NMU or not? > Hu? And +dfs

Re: NMU versioning (was: DEP1: Clarifying policies and workflows for Non Maintainer Uploads)

2008-04-29 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 10:17:12PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Tue, 29 Apr 2008, Adeodato Simó wrote: > > > I want a consistent versioning scheme, thus +nmuX for both native and > > > non-natives packages. > > > > I'd be very unhappy about that. For one, I think using such suffix in a > >

Re: NMU versioning (was: DEP1: Clarifying policies and workflows for Non Maintainer Uploads)

2008-04-29 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008, Adeodato Simó wrote: > > I want a consistent versioning scheme, thus +nmuX for both native and > > non-natives packages. > > I'd be very unhappy about that. For one, I think using such suffix in a > field that forms part of users' everyday's life is, uhm, inappropriate > or d

Re: NMU versioning (was: DEP1: Clarifying policies and workflows for Non Maintainer Uploads)

2008-04-29 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Raphael Hertzog [Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:16:34 +0200]: > (reply-to set to debian-devel only) > On Fri, 25 Apr 2008, James Vega wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 09:42:59PM +0200, Bas Wijnen wrote: > > > This DEP is available on the Debian Wiki[1]. > > "The version must be the version of the last

Re: NMU rules for security fixes (was: DEP1: Clarifying policies and workflows for Non Maintainer Uploads)

2008-04-28 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 25/04/08 at 18:32 +0200, Nico Golde wrote: > What about introducing a special case regarding the waiting > period before uploading an NMU for security bugs? There are > often cases in which we already have a patch handy to fix a > security issue but still wait a few days on the maintainers >

Re: DEP1: Clarifying policies and workflows for Non Maintainer Uploads

2008-04-28 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 25/04/08 at 10:59 +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > thanks for starting an initiative to make NMs more useful and accepted! > For now I just have two procedural remarks. > > On Thursday 24 April 2008 21:42, Bas Wijnen wrote: > > [0] http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep0/ > > [1] http://wiki.debi

Re: NMU rules for security fixes (was: DEP1: Clarifying policies and workflows for Non Maintainer Uploads)

2008-04-26 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Saturday 26 April 2008 02:07, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Sat, 26 Apr 2008, Paul Wise wrote: > > I'd prefer the security team did not delay fixes at all by default. > > Exceptions for specific maintainers, transitions or other reasons > > are fine too of course. > > For stable and testing, I agree

Re: NMU rules for security fixes (was: DEP1: Clarifying policies and workflows for Non Maintainer Uploads)

2008-04-25 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 26 Apr 2008, Paul Wise wrote: > I'd prefer the security team did not delay fixes at all by default. > Exceptions for specific maintainers, transitions or other reasons > are fine too of course. For stable and testing, I agree. However, for unstable and experimental the maintainer should be

Re: NMU rules for security fixes (was: DEP1: Clarifying policies and workflows for Non Maintainer Uploads)

2008-04-25 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 12:32 AM, Nico Golde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about introducing a special case regarding the waiting > period before uploading an NMU for security bugs? There are > often cases in which we already have a patch handy to fix a > security issue but still wait a fe

NMU rules for security fixes (was: DEP1: Clarifying policies and workflows for Non Maintainer Uploads)

2008-04-25 Thread Nico Golde
Hi Bas, * Bas Wijnen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-04-24 23:34]: > We (Bas Wijnen, Lucas Nussbaum) worked on a Debian Enhancement > Proposal[0] on the policies and workflows for Non Maintainer Uploads > (NMUs). > > The main purpose of the proposal is: > * to explicitely allow fixing bugs of severity

Re: DEP1: Clarifying policies and workflows for Non Maintainer Uploads

2008-04-25 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, thanks for starting an initiative to make NMs more useful and accepted! For now I just have two procedural remarks. On Thursday 24 April 2008 21:42, Bas Wijnen wrote: > [0] http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep0/ > [1] http://wiki.debian.org/NmuDep Why isnt the second URL http://dep.debian.net/deps

Re: NMU versioning (was: DEP1: Clarifying policies and workflows for Non Maintainer Uploads)

2008-04-25 Thread Raphael Hertzog
(reply-to set to debian-devel only) On Fri, 25 Apr 2008, James Vega wrote: > On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 09:42:59PM +0200, Bas Wijnen wrote: > > This DEP is available on the Debian Wiki[1]. > > "The version must be the version of the last upload, plus +nmuX, where X is a > counter starting at 1." >

NMU versioning (was: DEP1: Clarifying policies and workflows for Non Maintainer Uploads)

2008-04-25 Thread James Vega
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 09:42:59PM +0200, Bas Wijnen wrote: > This DEP is available on the Debian Wiki[1]. "The version must be the version of the last upload, plus +nmuX, where X is a counter starting at 1." The above was added to the DEP to "match dch" but dch only uses that format for native N

DEP1: Clarifying policies and workflows for Non Maintainer Uploads

2008-04-24 Thread Bas Wijnen
Hi, We (Bas Wijnen, Lucas Nussbaum) worked on a Debian Enhancement Proposal[0] on the policies and workflows for Non Maintainer Uploads (NMUs). The main purpose of the proposal is: * to explicitely allow fixing bugs of severity lower than important in NMUs. * to encourage the use of the DELA