Octavio Alvarez:
Question: is it safe to say that systemd doesn't yet support the
> full /etc/fstab specification from util-linux [1]?
Yes; it's safe. It's also wrong. But it's quite safe. (-:
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On 11/22/2014 12:45 AM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
> Of course. That's what I have and the Jessie bootlogd does not give
> messages on both consoles.
>
> Or was this bit of openstack support not pushed to jessie?
>
> Thanks
>
> Michal
This is unrelated to OpenStack. And yes, I did work on the issu
On 21 November 2014 06:38, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 11/19/2014 06:14 PM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
>> On 18 November 2014 00:52, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>>> On 11/18/2014 03:50 AM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
With
current sysvinit the serial console is also used as main but
sysvinit-core d
On 11/19/2014 06:14 PM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
> On 18 November 2014 00:52, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>> On 11/18/2014 03:50 AM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
>>> With
>>> current sysvinit the serial console is also used as main but
>>> sysvinit-core does not produce any messages on tty0 whatsoever and so
>>
On 19/11/14 21:32, Steve Langasek wrote:
>> 1) the problem with new feature in systemd which considers all
>> filesystems in fstab vital for system boot and stops boot if they
>> fail. It's been decided that although it is a change in behaviour
>> that might render some systems unbootable it's tec
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 01:45:55PM -0800, Octavio Alvarez wrote:
> On 19/11/14 21:32, Steve Langasek wrote:
> >> 1) the problem with new feature in systemd which considers all
> >> filesystems in fstab vital for system boot and stops boot if they
> >> fail. It's been decided that although it is a
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 06:53:27PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Nov 20, Sam Hartman wrote:
> > The first issue (fstab now fatally blocks boot) is something the systemd
> > maintainers have considered (as I understand it) and rejected.
> The behaviour of systemd will not be changed, but I have
On Thursday, 20 de November de 2014 17:53:27 Marco d'Itri escribió:
> On Nov 20, Sam Hartman wrote:
> > The first issue (fstab now fatally blocks boot) is something the systemd
> > maintainers have considered (as I understand it) and rejected.
>
> The behaviour of systemd will not be changed, but
On Nov 20, Sam Hartman wrote:
> The first issue (fstab now fatally blocks boot) is something the systemd
> maintainers have considered (as I understand it) and rejected.
The behaviour of systemd will not be changed, but I have plans to add
a fstab sanity check to preinst.
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Sam Hartman writes:
> In that spirit.
> The first issue (fstab now fatally blocks boot) is something the systemd
> maintainers have considered (as I understand it) and rejected.
> I don't know that filing a bug that will be immediately wontfixed will
> be helpful.
> I don't think sending that iss
> "Didier" == Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes:
Didier> Steve's suggestions stands though: separated and actionable
Didier> bugs for these two issues filed on the corresponding
Didier> packages are way more helpful than a general "non-sysvinit
Didier> init systems are made of fail"
Le jeudi, 20 novembre 2014, 12.06:45 Sam Hartman a écrit :
> > "Didier" == Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes:
> Didier> Systems cross-craded from Ubuntu to Debian are absolutely
> Didier> not supported, and I wouldn't be surprised if some of the
> Didier> issues you're seeing are in some
> "Didier" == Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes:
Didier> Systems cross-craded from Ubuntu to Debian are absolutely
Didier> not supported, and I wouldn't be surprised if some of the
Didier> issues you're seeing are in some way related to this.
I've seen both these issues on pure Debian
Michal,
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 09:34:22AM +0100, Michal Suchanek wrote:
> On 19 November 2014 08:02, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> > Le mercredi, 19 novembre 2014, 00.00:48 Michal Suchanek a écrit :
> >> On 18 November 2014 18:57, Jordi Mallach wrote:
> >> > El dl 17 de 11 de 2014 a les 15:41 +
On Wed, 19 Nov 2014, Michal Suchanek wrote:
> >> Release: testing
> I had Ubuntu base system on this particular PC some years ago and I
Hah! I’m not the only one then ☺
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On 19 November 2014 16:12, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> Before anything else, Michal: Please remember Debian is a
> volunteer-run project. It is sometimes tempting to reply mails in a
> haste and making ironic remarks to drive your points further. But
> mails such as this one are not welcome in Debian. Pl
Before anything else, Michal: Please remember Debian is a
volunteer-run project. It is sometimes tempting to reply mails in a
haste and making ironic remarks to drive your points further. But
mails such as this one are not welcome in Debian. Please assume good
faith, and treat everybody with respec
On 18 November 2014 00:52, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 11/18/2014 03:50 AM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
>> With
>> current sysvinit the serial console is also used as main but
>> sysvinit-core does not produce any messages on tty0 whatsoever and so
>> does not mislead the user into thinking that useful
Le mercredi, 19 novembre 2014, 09.34:22 Michal Suchanek a écrit :
> On 19 November 2014 08:02, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
wrote:
> > Le mercredi, 19 novembre 2014, 00.00:48 Michal Suchanek a écrit :
> >> I had Ubuntu base system on this particular PC some years ago and I
> >> noticed this issue and spe
On 19 November 2014 08:02, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> Le mercredi, 19 novembre 2014, 00.00:48 Michal Suchanek a écrit :
>> On 18 November 2014 18:57, Jordi Mallach wrote:
>> > El dl 17 de 11 de 2014 a les 15:41 +0100, en/na Michal Suchanek va
>> > escriure:
>> >> -- System Information:
>> >> D
Le mercredi, 19 novembre 2014, 00.00:48 Michal Suchanek a écrit :
> On 18 November 2014 18:57, Jordi Mallach wrote:
> > El dl 17 de 11 de 2014 a les 15:41 +0100, en/na Michal Suchanek va
> > escriure:
> >> -- System Information:
> >> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
> >> Description: Ubuntu GNU/Linux
On 18 November 2014 18:57, Jordi Mallach wrote:
> El dl 17 de 11 de 2014 a les 15:41 +0100, en/na Michal Suchanek va
> escriure:
>> -- System Information:
>> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
>> Description: Ubuntu GNU/Linux testing (jessie)
>> Release: testing
>> Codename: jessie
>> Architec
El dl 17 de 11 de 2014 a les 15:41 +0100, en/na Michal Suchanek va
escriure:
> -- System Information:
> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
> Description: Ubuntu GNU/Linux testing (jessie)
> Release: testing
> Codename: jessie
> Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
> Foreign Architectures: i386
>
> Ker
On 18 November 2014 00:52, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 11/18/2014 03:50 AM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
>> With
>> current sysvinit the serial console is also used as main but
>> sysvinit-core does not produce any messages on tty0 whatsoever and so
>> does not mislead the user into thinking that useful
On 11/18/2014 03:50 AM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
> With
> current sysvinit the serial console is also used as main but
> sysvinit-core does not produce any messages on tty0 whatsoever and so
> does not mislead the user into thinking that useful boot progress
> feedback can be obtained on that termina
On 17 November 2014 18:15, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 11/17/2014 10:41 PM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
>> To be a reasonable sysvinit replacement
>> systemd and upstart must output messages to consoles(s) to which
>> sysvinit did output messages, even on systems with multiple consoles
>> (eg. serial, v
On 11/17/2014 10:41 PM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
> To be a reasonable sysvinit replacement
> systemd and upstart must output messages to consoles(s) to which
> sysvinit did output messages, even on systems with multiple consoles
> (eg. serial, vga, kms).
Not really... Or at least, not until last sum
Package: general
Severity: important
Dear Debian Maintainers,
I tried the alternative init systems (namely upstart and systemd) and
while I think there is some potential in these systems I don't think
they are ready for Jessie.
As basic system component the init system needs to be very realiable
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