Re: [Spice-devel] Bug#603699: ITP: celt051 -- The CELT codec v0.5.1

2010-11-28 Thread Liang Guo
Hi, ALL On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:39 AM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: >> There isn't going to be a Debian release with spice in it for around >> 2 years now in the best case, so if there isn't another suitable choice >> available by then, then something worse than this has gone badly wrong. > > Two year

Re: Bug#603699: ITP: celt051 -- The CELT codec v0.5.1

2010-11-20 Thread Patrick Matthäi
Am 16.11.2010 15:15, schrieb liang: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org --- Please fill out the fields below. --- Package name: celt051 Version: 0.5.1.3 Upstream Author: Christopher Montgomery, Jean-Marc Valin Timothy Terrib

Re: [Spice-devel] Bug#603699: ITP: celt051 -- The CELT codec v0.5.1

2010-11-17 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
Hi, If you don't want package celt 0.5.1 -- fine. You can patch your spice server and client to just not signal the celt capability, and they will interoperate just fine with everybody else using raw uncompressed audio. But IMHO it would be stupid to not support audio compression in your spi

Re: [Spice-devel] Bug#603699: ITP: celt051 -- The CELT codec v0.5.1

2010-11-17 Thread Ron
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 03:48:36PM +0100, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > On 11/17/10 13:04, Ron wrote: > >Are you seriously telling me that you have no plan whatsoever for how > >to transition from a random snapshot of an experimental codec, > > We can transition just fine. server + client can signal sup

Re: [Spice-devel] Bug#603699: ITP: celt051 -- The CELT codec v0.5.1

2010-11-17 Thread Marc-André Lureau
Hi 2010/11/17 Ron : > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 03:48:36PM +0100, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: >> On 11/17/10 13:04, Ron wrote: > Why not just let systems negotiate the best codec they both know? That was a bit my goal with this patch: http://gitorious.org/~elmarco/spice/elmarco-spice/commit/e310493a3e5a28

Re: [Spice-devel] Bug#603699: ITP: celt051 -- The CELT codec v0.5.1

2010-11-17 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
On 11/17/10 13:04, Ron wrote: Hi Hans, Hans de Goede writes: The if at all part depends on if it will be doable without too much pain to support both celt-0.5.1 and celt "1.0" in the same binary. Should work without major trouble, the symbols exported by the shared library have a versioned

Re: [Spice-devel] Bug#603699: ITP: celt051 -- The CELT codec v0.5.1

2010-11-17 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 11/17/2010 01:04 PM, Ron wrote: Hi Hans, Hans de Goede writes: The if at all part depends on if it will be doable without too much pain to support both celt-0.5.1 and celt "1.0" in the same binary. This is important to us as we care a lot about protocol compatibility. Are you serious

Re: [Spice-devel] Bug#603699: ITP: celt051 -- The CELT codec v0.5.1

2010-11-17 Thread Ron
Hi Hans, Hans de Goede writes: > The if at all part depends on if it will be doable without too much > pain to support both celt-0.5.1 and celt "1.0" in the same binary. > This is important to us as we care a lot about protocol > compatibility. Are you seriously telling me that you have no plan

Re: [Spice-devel] Bug#603699: ITP: celt051 -- The CELT codec v0.5.1

2010-11-17 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, The reason spice is still using celt-0.5.1 is that celt as a protocol / format is considered not finished yet by celt upstream and thus the bitstream format may change (and does change) with every new upstream release. In order to provide compatibility between different spice client and serv

Re: Bug#603699: ITP: celt051 -- The CELT codec v0.5.1

2010-11-16 Thread Liang Guo
Add Cc to spice-devel list On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 5:11 AM, Adrian Knoth wrote: > Ok, you'll lose backward compatibility to non-celt-0.9 installations > already deployed and not being able to update... but who's using them? > And who will be using them by 2011? > RHEL6 and fedora are using spice

Re: Bug#603699: ITP: celt051 -- The CELT codec v0.5.1

2010-11-16 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 22:11 +0100, Adrian Knoth wrote: [...] > Anyway, there's > >http://www.spice-space.org/docs/spice_protocol.pdf > > and it says it's a draft, so I guess it can still be reworked. But > still, if you see section 7 and 8, you'll notice two constants: > >RED_PLAYBACK_DA

Re: Bug#603699: ITP: celt051 -- The CELT codec v0.5.1

2010-11-16 Thread Adrian Knoth
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 04:08:02PM +0100, Patrick Matthäi wrote: Hi! [CELT for spice] > Yeah I am aware of the celt _madness_ - I am one of the mumble > maintainers.. > > spice then has to be adjusted to support celt 0.9. I strongly support this demand. It was wrong to use CELT in the first plac

Re: Bug#603699: ITP: celt051 -- The CELT codec v0.5.1

2010-11-16 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 04:08:02PM +0100, Patrick Matthäi wrote: > Am 16.11.2010 16:09, schrieb Liang Guo: >>> >>> celt is already packaged: >>> http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=celt >> >> Different version CELT is not compatiable, it means, if audio is >> encoded with celt 0.5, it is not

Re: Bug#603699: ITP: celt051 -- The CELT codec v0.5.1

2010-11-16 Thread Liang Guo
> > > Yeah I am aware of the celt _madness_ - I am one of the mumble maintainers.. > > spice then has to be adjusted to support celt 0.9. It is hard to upgrade to a new celt version, after upgrade, new client will not able to connect to old spice server. So it is not a good idea to update celt fre

Re: Bug#603699: ITP: celt051 -- The CELT codec v0.5.1

2010-11-16 Thread Patrick Matthäi
Am 16.11.2010 16:43, schrieb Marc-André Lureau: Hi Patrick, On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Patrick Matthäi wrote: Am 16.11.2010 16:09, schrieb Liang Guo: Marc-André Lureau had ported spice to use the latest celt , but it is not suitable for upstream, for the spice client and the server use

Re: Bug#603699: ITP: celt051 -- The CELT codec v0.5.1

2010-11-16 Thread Marc-André Lureau
Hi Patrick, On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Patrick Matthäi wrote: > Am 16.11.2010 16:09, schrieb Liang Guo: >> Marc-André Lureau had ported spice to use the latest celt , but it is >> not suitable for upstream, for the spice client and the server use >> different different bitstream format. >>

Re: Bug#603699: ITP: celt051 -- The CELT codec v0.5.1

2010-11-16 Thread Patrick Matthäi
Am 16.11.2010 16:09, schrieb Liang Guo: celt is already packaged: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=celt Different version CELT is not compatiable, it means, if audio is encoded with celt 0.5, it is not possible to decode it with celt 0.9, and spice[1] uses celt 0.5.1, if we want use

Re: Bug#603699: ITP: celt051 -- The CELT codec v0.5.1

2010-11-16 Thread Liang Guo
> > celt is already packaged: > http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=celt Different version CELT is not compatiable, it means, if audio is encoded with celt 0.5, it is not possible to decode it with celt 0.9, and spice[1] uses celt 0.5.1, if we want use spice in Debian, we need package celt0

Bug#603699: ITP: celt051 -- The CELT codec v0.5.1

2010-11-16 Thread liang
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org --- Please fill out the fields below. --- Package name: celt051 Version: 0.5.1.3 Upstream Author: Christopher Montgomery, Jean-Marc Valin Timothy Terriberry, CSIRO, and other contributors