Updating delegation for the backports team

2024-07-23 Thread Andreas Tille
Backports Team delegation = I'm sorry for my mistake to copy-and-paste from last delegation text while not remembering Rhonda changed her name. I'd like to immediately fix the appointment for the Backports Team. The correct team member list is: - Alex

Re: time_t and backports

2024-02-26 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2024-02-26 John Goerzen wrote: > Hi folks, > As a person that frequently uploads to bookworm-backports, I am > wondering how we are handling the time_t transition there? > The picture of synchronization with testing is a little complicated over > there. If you change the defa

time_t and backports

2024-02-26 Thread John Goerzen
Hi folks, As a person that frequently uploads to bookworm-backports, I am wondering how we are handling the time_t transition there? The picture of synchronization with testing is a little complicated over there. If you change the default build flags, you produce unexpected surprises over

Re: Closure of buster-backports (WAS Re: buster-10-backports: I need backported network-manager for buster ASAP.)

2023-03-26 Thread ijaaskelainen
> > > Kind regards, Ilari Jääskeläinen. > > > > > > I wonder if you could explain *why* you need this so immediately > > > and > > > also > > > why you asked all the Debian developers at once, please. > > > > > Hi Ilari, > >

Closure of buster-backports (WAS Re: buster-10-backports: I need backported network-manager for buster ASAP.)

2023-03-26 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
you need this so immediately and > > also > > why you asked all the Debian developers at once, please. > > Hi Ilari, It may be that you are unlucky. Buster is now in Long Term Support (LTS) as the oldstable distribution. The decision has been taken to close buster-back

Re: buster-10-backports: I need backported network-manager for buster ASAP.

2023-03-25 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 07:45:57AM +0200, ijaaskelai...@outlook.com wrote: > Kind regards, Ilari Jääskeläinen. I wonder if you could explain *why* you need this so immediately and also why you asked all the Debian developers at once, please. There may be a better way to request that Debian develo

buster-10-backports: I need backported network-manager for buster ASAP.

2023-03-22 Thread ijaaskelainen
Kind regards, Ilari Jääskeläinen.

Re: Automated backports based on Janitor work?

2022-12-04 Thread Jelmer Vernooij
> > Reviving this thread that's more than a year old... > > > > [...] > > > > Known issues that still need to be addressed: > > > > * backport from testing rather than unstable > > * rename the suite from bullseye-backports to something th

Re: Automated backports based on Janitor work?

2022-12-03 Thread Niels Thykier
essed: * backport from testing rather than unstable * rename the suite from bullseye-backports to something that does't clash with the official backports (version strings are already different) * finish processing the rest of the archive * better sanity checking to prevent too many dependencies

Re: Automated backports based on Janitor work?

2022-12-01 Thread Jelmer Vernooij
ns in the loop. > > Watching the talk[0] on automatically providing packages for new > upstream releases and new upstream git snapshots, I wondered if the same > tooling could be used to automatically provide stable backports > for packages in unstable/testing. > > There's

Re: on debomatic-*.debian.net unable to build bullseye and bullseye-backports

2022-03-30 Thread Fabio Fantoni
alternatives to the debomatic hardware listed here: https://wiki.debian.org/Hardware/Wanted#Available_hardware thanks for reply I did a local debomatic server, did and tested the changes to fix bullseye/stable build and add bullseye-backports and prepared a PR to make faster update them: https

Re: on debomatic-*.debian.net unable to build bullseye and bullseye-backports

2022-03-24 Thread Fabio Fantoni
://wiki.debian.org/Hardware/Wanted#Available_hardware thanks for reply I did a local debomatic server, did and tested the changes to fix bullseye/stable build and add bullseye-backports and prepared a PR to make faster update them: https://github.com/debomatic/instances/pull/10

Re: on debomatic-*.debian.net unable to build bullseye and bullseye-backports

2022-03-23 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, 2022-03-23 at 11:13 +0100, Fabio Fantoni wrote: > Is there someone else who has access to those servers and can please fix? AFAIK Luca Falavigna is the only one with access. There are alternatives to the debomatic hardware listed here: https://wiki.debian.org/Hardware/Wanted#Available_h

on debomatic-*.debian.net unable to build bullseye and bullseye-backports

2022-03-23 Thread Fabio Fantoni
ually is not possible build for bullseye and bullseye-backports, I wrote a mail to Luca Falavigna (dktrkranz) but in latest months didn't replied me. Is there someone else who has access to those servers and can please fix? I suppose that conf files used in these servers are stored he

Re: Automated backports based on Janitor work?

2021-09-05 Thread Jelmer Vernooij
s would be affected. Maybe piuparts knows some of this? I agree it's a bug in those packages, but I think it would significantly affect backportability. This is somewhat orthogonal to the process of actually backporting, but it might impact the success chances or fitness of backported packages (i

Bug#993486: ITP: mirrorrib -- tool locally to mirror a Debian release, including backports

2021-09-01 Thread Thaddeus H. Black
: GPL-2 Programming Lang: Shell (bash) Description : tool locally to mirror a Debian release, including backports Debian releases a major revision of its operating system about every two years and a minor revision approximately quarterly, but these revisions exclude Debian backports. Debia

Re: Automated backports based on Janitor work?

2021-08-30 Thread Christian Kastner
On 30.08.21 15:49, Jelmer Vernooij wrote: > I think one of the main challenges here is to make sure that the > dependencies for packages in unstable/testing are correct. Why wouldn't they be correct, though? If it's less strict than it should be, then that is a bug. And if it's too strict, experime

Re: Automated backports based on Janitor work?

2021-08-30 Thread Jelmer Vernooij
Hi Lucas, On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 11:39:06AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Watching the talk[0] on automatically providing packages for new > upstream releases and new upstream git snapshots, I wondered if the same > tooling could be used to automatically provide stable backports >

Re: Automated backports based on Janitor work?

2021-08-27 Thread Jonathan Carter
Hey Lucas On 2021/08/27 15:04, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Oh I wasn't thinking about uploading to the official backports suite. In the same spirit as the fresh-{releases,snapshots} suites provided by janitor, I was thinking about an automatically-generated backports suite. That sounds

Re: Automated backports based on Janitor work?

2021-08-27 Thread Holger Levsen
On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 03:04:34PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > uploading to -backports also implies the promise to keep maintaining that > > backport until the next release is out... I'm not sure that part of the > > upload should be automated nor forgotten ;) >

Re: Automated backports based on Janitor work?

2021-08-27 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 27/08/21 at 12:54 +, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 11:39:06AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > There's probably a large number of packages that just require a > > rebuild (+ test with autopkgtest) to be backported. > > uploading to -backports a

Re: Automated backports based on Janitor work?

2021-08-27 Thread Holger Levsen
On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 11:39:06AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > There's probably a large number of packages that just require a > rebuild (+ test with autopkgtest) to be backported. uploading to -backports also implies the promise to keep maintaining that backport until the next rel

Re: Automated backports based on Janitor work?

2021-08-27 Thread Christian Kastner
='bullseye') | buster_bpo = dict(origin='Debian Backports', codename='buster backports') | buster = dict(origin='Debian', codename='buster') | | # origin: bullseye | # target: buster-backports | # Packages

Automated backports based on Janitor work?

2021-08-26 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
eam releases and new upstream git snapshots, I wondered if the same tooling could be used to automatically provide stable backports for packages in unstable/testing. There's probably a large number of packages that just require a rebuild (+ test with autopkgtest) to be backported. Addition

Re: Package broke in stable due to old API. Fix in stable or backports?

2021-01-09 Thread Shengjing Zhu
package is using deprecates the old API, which in turn breaks the > package. Do we have documented conventions that where the fixed package > should be uploaded to: stable-proposed-updates or backports? > Usually you need to backport the relevant patch, instead of uploading a new upstream version to stable. -- Shengjing Zhu

Re: Package broke in stable due to old API. Fix in stable or backports?

2021-01-09 Thread Phil Morrell
uploaded to: stable-proposed-updates or backports? Yes, absolutely stable updates, as documented in both the dev-ref and backports site. https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.html#upload-stable > Backports are about additional features that are only offered in a new &

Package broke in stable due to old API. Fix in stable or backports?

2021-01-09 Thread Yao Wei
documented conventions that where the fixed package should be uploaded to: stable-proposed-updates or backports? Thanks, Yao Wei signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Backports needed for Firefox/Thunderbird ESR 78 in Buster/Stretch

2020-09-20 Thread Carsten Schoenert
Hello Félix, Am 20.09.20 um 11:33 schrieb Félix Sipma: > Hello Emilio and others, > > On 2020-09-10 19:32+0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: >> I'm currently attempting a build of Firefox 78.2.0 ESR for buster. If that >> goes >> well I'll start uploading things to buster (coordinating with the

Re: Backports needed for Firefox/Thunderbird ESR 78 in Buster/Stretch

2020-09-20 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
On 20/09/2020 11:33, Félix Sipma wrote: > Hello Emilio and others, > > On 2020-09-10 19:32+0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: >> I'm currently attempting a build of Firefox 78.2.0 ESR for buster. If that >> goes >> well I'll start uploading things to buster (coordinating with the SRMs). > > Was

Re: Backports needed for Firefox/Thunderbird ESR 78 in Buster/Stretch

2020-09-20 Thread Félix Sipma
Hello Emilio and others, On 2020-09-10 19:32+0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: I'm currently attempting a build of Firefox 78.2.0 ESR for buster. If that goes well I'll start uploading things to buster (coordinating with the SRMs). Was the build successful? Did you also try to build Thunderb

Re: Backports needed for Firefox/Thunderbird ESR 78 in Buster/Stretch

2020-09-14 Thread Christoph Martin
Hi. Any progress here? Or any way to help? Am 01.09.20 um 19:17 schrieb Moritz Muehlenhoff: >> It may be more future-proof, in case we need it for a future >> rustc for the next ESR bump. > > My gut feeling is the next ESR thing will need LLVM 11 or so, but happy to > be proven wrong :-) So mayb

Re: Backports needed for Firefox/Thunderbird ESR 78 in Buster/Stretch

2020-09-10 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
gt; >>> Yes please upload your LLVM9 and wasi-libc backports. >> >> fwiw I started to look at this and have an LLVM 10 backport ready. Should we >> go >> with that instead? > > I'm fine either way. > >> It may be more future-proof, in case we n

Re: Backports needed for Firefox/Thunderbird ESR 78 in Buster/Stretch

2020-09-03 Thread Michael Hudson-Doyle
On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 08:34, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > On Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 05:25:28AM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote: > > Note Firefox doesn't need wasi-libc at the moment. Neither does > > thunderbird AFAICT. > > Not Firefox/Thunderbird itself, but rustc in the versions needed by ESR 78 > build

Re: Backports needed for Firefox/Thunderbird ESR 78 in Buster/Stretch

2020-09-01 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
On Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 05:25:28AM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote: > Note Firefox doesn't need wasi-libc at the moment. Neither does > thunderbird AFAICT. Not Firefox/Thunderbird itself, but rustc in the versions needed by ESR 78 build depends on it. Cheers, Moritz

Re: Backports needed for Firefox/Thunderbird ESR 78 in Buster/Stretch

2020-09-01 Thread Mike Hommey
have a look at it. > > > > > > Yes please upload your LLVM9 and wasi-libc backports. > > > > fwiw I started to look at this and have an LLVM 10 backport ready. Should > > we go > > with that instead? > > I'm fine either way. > >

Re: Backports needed for Firefox/Thunderbird ESR 78 in Buster/Stretch

2020-09-01 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
On Tue, Sep 01, 2020 at 04:35:42PM +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: > On 01/09/2020 14:05, Christoph Martin wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am not shure if I can help, but I can try and have a look at it. > > > > Yes please upload your LLVM9 and wasi-libc backport

Re: Backports needed for Firefox/Thunderbird ESR 78 in Buster/Stretch

2020-09-01 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
On 01/09/2020 14:05, Christoph Martin wrote: > Hi, > > I am not shure if I can help, but I can try and have a look at it. > > Yes please upload your LLVM9 and wasi-libc backports. fwiw I started to look at this and have an LLVM 10 backport ready. Should we go with that instead?

Re: Backports needed for Firefox/Thunderbird ESR 78 in Buster/Stretch

2020-09-01 Thread Christoph Martin
Hi, I am not shure if I can help, but I can try and have a look at it. Yes please upload your LLVM9 and wasi-libc backports. Regards Christoph Am 31.08.20 um 20:26 schrieb Moritz Mühlenhoff: > >> I think we can reuse the same approach as before, by staging uploads >> in -propo

Re: Backports needed for Firefox/Thunderbird ESR 78 in Buster/Stretch

2020-08-31 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
#x27;ll have to do some toolchain backports as usual. > > > > Has someone started to look at this? > > > > I have taken a quick look and it looks like we need rustc 1.41 and cargo > > 0.31. > > We currently have: > > > > rustc | 1.34.2+dfs

mesa3d in buster-backports?

2020-08-22 Thread Rodrigo Lima de Souto Leandro
Hello everyone, My name is Rodrigo and I would like to know if there is any date for the mesa3d package to enter buster-backports, because I have an AMD Radeon video card and the current version of the buster is 18.3.6, but it doesn't work on my card, at least the OpenCL option.

Bug#867400: marked as done (general: backports suite-names can't be properly used in sources.list)

2020-07-30 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Thu, 30 Jul 2020 13:15:22 +0200 with message-id <20200730111521.3es5upqv2hu4b...@percival.namespace.at> and subject line Re: Bug#867400: general: backports suite-names can't be properly used in sources.list has caused the Debian Bug report #867400, regarding general

Re: virtualbox, backports, and fasttrack

2019-12-02 Thread Pirate Praveen
- what are your requirements for packages that are being uploaded >there? >> >> buster-fasttrack suite: >> >> If a package cannot be part of a stable release because we cannot >provide >> security updates for the entire stable lifecylce then that package >cannot

Re: virtualbox, backports, and fasttrack

2019-12-01 Thread Jonathan Nieder
not be part of a stable release because we cannot provide > security updates for the entire stable lifecylce then that package cannot be > in testing or backports. Those packages get security updates along with new > upstream versions and such software can be in FastTrack. Does the pac

Re: virtualbox, backports, and fasttrack

2019-10-04 Thread Pirate Praveen
On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 23:23, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: Hi Lucaus, Given that backports are a no-go, I hope that <http://fasttrack.debian.net/> will make quick progress and turn into an official service soon. basically a good idea, but I'm part of the Fast Track team and

Re: virtualbox, backports, and fasttrack

2019-10-03 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi, On 02/10/19 at 23:23 +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > > Given that backports are a no-go, I hope that > > http://fasttrack.debian.net/ will make quick progress and turn into an > > official service soon. > > basically a good idea, but > - what are your requirements

Re: virtualbox, backports, and fasttrack

2019-10-02 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
Just few answers derived from common sense: On Thursday, 3 October 2019 7:23:41 AM AEST Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > - how do you want to avoid that this service becomes a mess? We don't have a perfect solution for this problem in the official backports either. Sometimes there is just enough

Re: virtualbox, backports, and fasttrack

2019-10-02 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Hi Lucaus, > Given that backports are a no-go, I hope that > http://fasttrack.debian.net/ will make quick progress and turn into an > official service soon. basically a good idea, but - what are your requirements for packages that are being uploaded there? - how do you want to avoid

virtualbox, backports, and fasttrack

2019-10-02 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
I don't want to reopen the debate about policy for backports and inclusion into testing, that was already discussed at length. But it saddens me a bit that Debian is not providing a solution to our users other than to install unofficial packages (from me, or directly from upstream). Given tha

Re: Backports needed for Firefox/Thunderbird ESR 68 in Stretch

2019-08-19 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
ird supported in > oldstable-security > after October, someone needs to step up to take care of backports to a > Stretch point > release before October 22nd (or in case of poor timing, we can also release > build > dependency updates via stretch-security). There hasn't been

Re: Proposal: Repository for fast-paced package backports

2019-07-28 Thread Pirate Praveen
On 2019, ജൂലൈ 28 6:36:21 PM IST, Phil Morrell wrote: >On Tue, Jan 01, 2019 at 05:49:37PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: >> I think STS (Short term support) will fit nicely with LTS. If there >is >> no serious objections, I'd go with this. > >As debconf is finishing, though I don't know if either

Re: Proposal: Repository for fast-paced package backports

2019-07-28 Thread Phil Morrell
On Tue, Jan 01, 2019 at 05:49:37PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: > I think STS (Short term support) will fit nicely with LTS. If there is > no serious objections, I'd go with this. As debconf is finishing, though I don't know if either of you attended this year, has there been any progress on this

Re: buster backports question/status

2019-07-10 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 11:42:40AM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > buster-backports exists. AIUI this is an apt bug when dealing with > empty repos. (Although why are you setting default-release to > buster-backports?) JFTR: Yes it is an apt "bug" in that empty repositorie

Re: buster backports question/status

2019-07-10 Thread Julien Cristau
kage (what package? they don't exist) from a > > repo that doesn't exist. > > > > I tried a package that is not in backports, it was just for test (for an > automation tool I use) > It should fail with a *package not found* , but should not fail about > buster-

Re: buster backports question/status

2019-07-10 Thread olivier sallou
Le mer. 10 juil. 2019 à 11:35, Andrey Rahmatullin a écrit : > On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 11:29:01AM +0200, olivier sallou wrote: > > I tried a package that is not in backports, it was just for test (for an > > automation tool I use) > > It should fail with a *package not fo

Re: buster backports question/status

2019-07-10 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 11:29:01AM +0200, olivier sallou wrote: > I tried a package that is not in backports, it was just for test (for an > automation tool I use) > It should fail with a *package not found* , but should not fail about > buster-backports being non available. I don

Re: buster backports question/status

2019-07-10 Thread Kyle Robbertze
tried to install a package (what package? they don't exist) from a > repo that doesn't exist. > >   > I tried a package that is not in backports, it was just for test (for an > automation tool I use) > It should fail with a *package not found* , but should not fail ab

Re: buster backports question/status

2019-07-10 Thread olivier sallou
tried a package that is not in backports, it was just for test (for an automation tool I use) It should fail with a *package not found* , but should not fail about buster-backports being non available. Is the problem linked to buster-backports not existing yet ? Is backports repo not created a

Re: buster backports question/status

2019-07-10 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 10:54:21AM +0200, olivier sallou wrote: > So, am I doing something wrong? You tried to install a package (what package? they don't exist) from a repo that doesn't exist. -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc Description: PGP signature

buster backports question/status

2019-07-10 Thread olivier sallou
Hi, it may be a silly question, but doing some tests on a Debian buster, I got errors trying to install a package from buster-backports. I added to sources.list.d info to set buster-backports but i get this error: E: The value 'buster-backports' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

Re: Backports needed for Firefox/Thunderbird ESR 68 in Stretch

2019-07-08 Thread Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
Seems that rust/cargo needs a lot more attention. > If we want to continue to have Firefox/Thunderbird supported in > oldstable-security > after October, someone needs to step up to take care of backports to a > Stretch point > release before October 22nd (or in case of poor

Backports needed for Firefox/Thunderbird ESR 68 in Stretch

2019-07-02 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
already updated wrt Rust/Cargo for ESR 60, so there's at least no requirement to bootstrap stage0 builds this time. If we want to continue to have Firefox/Thunderbird supported in oldstable-security after October, someone needs to step up to take care of backports to a Stretch point re

Re: Proposal: Repository for fast-paced package backports

2019-05-19 Thread Utkarsh Gupta
Hi Dominik, On 26/12/18 2:16 am, Dominik George wrote: > Heisann, alle sammen, > > as announced in the recent thread about maintaining, I hereby propose a > repository that allows making “backports” of packages available to users > of the stable distribution, if those pac

Re: Removal of 'Valid-Until' tag in archived jessie-backports

2019-04-02 Thread Hideki Yamane
On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 23:50:14 -0400 Thomas Walker wrote: > So 3 of the 25 releases under archive.debian.org/debian have 'Valid-Until' > tags, the rest do not. It works quite well for its original purpose, to > indicate whether a repo mirror is stale, but anyone relying on 'Valid-Until' > to indi

Re: Removal of 'Valid-Until' tag in archived jessie-backports

2019-04-02 Thread Thomas Walker
On Tue, Apr 02, 2019 at 10:19:47PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 15360 March 1977, Thomas Walker wrote: > > >Hi, I've noticed that previous release's backports have the > >'Valid-Until' tag removed when they are moved to archive.debian.org > >but

Re: Removal of 'Valid-Until' tag in archived jessie-backports

2019-04-02 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 15360 March 1977, Thomas Walker wrote: Hi, I've noticed that previous release's backports have the 'Valid-Until' tag removed when they are moved to archive.debian.org but that seems to have not happened with 'jessie-backports' (which has a 'Valid-Until'

Removal of 'Valid-Until' tag in archived jessie-backports

2019-04-02 Thread Thomas Walker
Hi, I've noticed that previous release's backports have the 'Valid-Until' tag removed when they are moved to archive.debian.org but that seems to have not happened with 'jessie-backports' (which has a 'Valid-Until' that is well past expiration). I

Re: Removal of linux-base from jessie-backports broke Xen upstream CI

2019-02-14 Thread Alexander Wirt
uess the point of > jessie-backports (and of much of what we do in Debian) is to help > Debian's users. In this case I was a user who had something go wrong, > but I was in the unusually fortunate situation of being able (due to > my personal skills, my support network, and my av

Re: Removal of linux-base from jessie-backports broke Xen upstream CI

2019-02-14 Thread Hans van Kranenburg
to use meta packages to install kernels, so that they keep getting updated when ABI level is bumped, and to resolve dependencies. > My aim was to share my experience, because I guess the point of > jessie-backports (and of much of what we do in Debian) is to help > Debian's users.

Re: Removal of linux-base from jessie-backports broke Xen upstream CI

2019-02-14 Thread Ian Jackson
Firstly, thanks for taking the time to read what I wrote. (Thanks also for Sam for his helpful perspective.) Stepping back a bit, and firmly putting my `user' hat on: My aim was to share my experience, because I guess the point of jessie-backports (and of much of what we do in Debian)

Re: Removal of linux-base from jessie-backports broke Xen upstream CI

2019-02-14 Thread Sam Hartman
>>>>> "Rhonda" == Rhonda D'Vine writes: >> installer image to have the jessie-backports kernel and modules, >> but that is not relevant to this tale.) Rhonda> I don't really follow - you now can get rid of that special Rhond

Re: Removal of linux-base from jessie-backports broke Xen upstream CI

2019-02-14 Thread Rhonda D'Vine
Hi, On 2/13/19 1:09 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: > I would like to recount a situation. I'm not sure where, if anywhere, > the root bug(s) lie, but I am inclined to say that a big part of the > problem was a change to the contents of jessie-backports. I would be > interested

Re: Removal of linux-base from jessie-backports broke Xen upstream CI

2019-02-14 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On February 13, 2019 4:07:45 PM UTC, Ansgar wrote: >More importantly Jessie has reached end-of-life[1]. Please do not >expect related suites (such as -security, -backports, -proposed- >updates, -updates) to continue working after this. -security and -updates are part of the LTS sou

Re: Removal of linux-base from jessie-backports broke Xen upstream CI

2019-02-13 Thread Ian Jackson
Ansgar writes ("Re: Removal of linux-base from jessie-backports broke Xen upstream CI"): > More importantly Jessie has reached end-of-life[1]. Please do not > expect related suites (such as -security, -backports, -proposed- > updates, -updates) to continue working after thi

Re: Removal of linux-base from jessie-backports broke Xen upstream CI

2019-02-13 Thread Ansgar
On Wed, 2019-02-13 at 12:46 +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Alexander Wirt writes ("Re: Removal of linux-base from jessie-backports broke > Xen upstream CI"): > > Jessie backports doesn't exist anymore. For some time now. It is already on > > its way to archive.d.o.

Re: Removal of linux-base from jessie-backports broke Xen upstream CI

2019-02-13 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Wed, 13 Feb 2019, Ian Jackson wrote: > Alexander Wirt writes ("Re: Removal of linux-base from jessie-backports broke > Xen upstream CI"): > > Jessie backports doesn't exist anymore. For some time now. It is already on > > its way to archive.d.o. > > T

Re: Removal of linux-base from jessie-backports broke Xen upstream CI

2019-02-13 Thread Ian Jackson
Alexander Wirt writes ("Re: Removal of linux-base from jessie-backports broke Xen upstream CI"): > Jessie backports doesn't exist anymore. For some time now. It is already on > its way to archive.d.o. Thanks are due to to folks on #debian-uk who pointed out this announcemen

Re: Removal of linux-base from jessie-backports broke Xen upstream CI

2019-02-13 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Wed, 13 Feb 2019, Ian Jackson wrote: > Introduction > > > I would like to recount a situation. I'm not sure where, if anywhere, > the root bug(s) lie, but I am inclined to say that a big part of the > problem was a change to the contents of jessie

Removal of linux-base from jessie-backports broke Xen upstream CI

2019-02-13 Thread Ian Jackson
Introduction I would like to recount a situation. I'm not sure where, if anywhere, the root bug(s) lie, but I am inclined to say that a big part of the problem was a change to the contents of jessie-backports. I would be interested to hear what the backports team and ftpmaster

Re: Proposal: Repository for fast-paced package backports

2019-01-02 Thread Charles Plessy
Hi Dominik, happy new year to you and everybody. I read your proposal, and the whole discussion with great interest. In brief, I think that it would be wise to uncouple the fast-paced ("fast-forwards" ?) repository that you propose from the stable backports, and I hope that you will

Re: Proposal: Repository for fast-paced package backports

2019-01-01 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 1:06 PM Ben Hutchings wrote: > At the risk of bikeshedding, some alternate names that might be less > confusing: > > - fresh-apps > - evergreen > - rolling-apps At further risk of bikeshedding, how about "sideports"? 1. Uses a metaphor ra

Re: Proposal: Repository for fast-paced package backports

2019-01-01 Thread Pirate Praveen
On 1/1/19 3:42 PM, Scott Leggett wrote: > To continue the bikeshedding, what about "express"? Seems quite fitting > as the packages don't make the usual stop through testing... I think STS (Short term support) will fit nicely with LTS. If there is no serious objections, I'd go with this. signat

Re: Proposal: Repository for fast-paced package backports

2019-01-01 Thread Scott Leggett
ng'. This term is used a lot in the sense of > > > > 'rolling releases' by other distributions, and also in discussions > > > > about > > > > constantly usable testing. > > > > > > Well, it only makes things clear as the package

Re: Proposal: Repository for fast-paced package backports

2018-12-31 Thread Ben Hutchings
gested already to avoid reusing volatile). I think we can > > > > take the setup discussions offlist. > > > > > > Please don't name it 'rolling'. This term is used a lot in the sense of > > > 'rolling releases' by other distribution

Re: Proposal: Repository for fast-paced package backports

2018-12-31 Thread Jonas Meurer
#x27;. This term is used a lot in the sense of >> 'rolling releases' by other distributions, and also in discussions >> about >> constantly usable testing. > > Well, it only makes things clear as the packages in this repo will be rolling. ... as packages do in u

Re: Proposal: Repository for fast-paced package backports

2018-12-31 Thread Pirate Praveen
On 2018, ഡിസംബർ 31 5:19:22 PM IST, Jonas Meurer wrote: >Pirate Praveen: >> On 12/28/18 11:06 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: >>> If the problem is hardware and connectivity, then IMO you can easily >>> find a sponsor for it. My company could well offer it for example >>> (hosted in Geneva with very n

Re: Proposal: Repository for fast-paced package backports

2018-12-31 Thread Jonas Meurer
Pirate Praveen: > On 12/28/18 11:06 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> If the problem is hardware and connectivity, then IMO you can easily >> find a sponsor for it. My company could well offer it for example >> (hosted in Geneva with very nice connectivity to almost everywhere). >> >> Setting-up a repos

Re: Proposal: Repository for fast-paced package backports

2018-12-31 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 12/30/18 8:02 AM, Pirate Praveen wrote: > On 12/28/18 11:06 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: >>> If you know how to start with a new service at >>> {volatile,fastpaced,whatever}.debian.net without having to reinvent the >>> wheel for acceptign uploads, getting packages built, etc., please >>> enlighten

Re: Proposal: Repository for fast-paced package backports

2018-12-30 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 12/30/18 12:47 AM, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 07:19:02PM +0100, Dominik George wrote: >> - It costs a lot time that could better be used elsewhere. >> - It costs extra money, which I for one do not have to spare. > > So ask someone who does and who would care about this

Re: Proposal: Repository for fast-paced package backports

2018-12-29 Thread Pirate Praveen
On 12/28/18 11:06 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > If the problem is hardware and connectivity, then IMO you can easily > find a sponsor for it. My company could well offer it for example > (hosted in Geneva with very nice connectivity to almost everywhere). > > Setting-up a repository isn't hard. And

Re: Proposal: Repository for fast-paced package backports

2018-12-29 Thread Wouter Verhelst
m sure that if you ask nicely, ftpmaster people would be happy to help you out in setting up things, if you get stuck. After all, they did that for backports initially, too, if I'm not mistaken... [...] > Don't get me wrong - I would not hesitate to go through it if it were > for anyt

Re: Proposal: Repository for fast-paced package backports

2018-12-29 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 12/26/18 8:16 PM, Dominik George wrote: >> For backports the general supportability assumption is that you provide a >> sane upgrade path from stable to the backports and from the backport to the >> next stable (optimally the same package). Once you take the presence of the

Re: Proposal: Repository for fast-paced package backports

2018-12-29 Thread Thomas Goirand
ins should get a ping of a higher release version, so > if needed they can adopt it to experimental before it goes to unstable. > > This is a bit what i do for samba ( and debian ) > > Just my suggest as community helper. > > > Greetz, > > Louis If you ca

Re: Proposal: Repository for fast-paced package backports

2018-12-29 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 12/27/18 3:06 PM, Dominik George wrote: >> Basically you would like to build an architecture equivalent to Ubuntu's >> PPA > > No. Please at least try reading the thread first - it was explicitly > explained several times that this has absolutely nothing to do with the > idea of PPAs. Well, I

Re: Proposal: Repository for fast-paced package backports

2018-12-28 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
Thomas Goirand schrieb: > And for a start, I don't think you really need a buildd network, just amd64 > is ok-ish. Agreed. If there's actual demand for further architecture support, it will appear naturally by people offering to do the necessary setup. Cheers, Moritz

Re: Proposal: Repository for fast-paced package backports

2018-12-27 Thread Mathieu Parent (Debian)
(Please reply to pkg-samba-maint only) Le jeu. 27 déc. 2018 à 11:00, L.P.H. van Belle a écrit : > > > Hai, Hi, > A very interesting thread this, since im doing this already for samba, my > comments.. > If i may .. > > Im running a samba repo now for jessie and stretch. ( and ubuntu 18.04 ) > I

Re: Proposal: Repository for fast-paced package backports

2018-12-27 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 12/26/18 7:19 PM, Dominik George wrote: > Hi, > >> 2. I am happy with the current charter of backports and I think it's >> possible to move forward with fastpaced without having to change >> that charter. > > Yep. That's exactly why the prop

Re: Proposal: Repository for fast-paced package backports

2018-12-27 Thread Thomas Goirand
ats this entirely. This is *NOT* what the Debian Bikeshed proposal is about. They would *not* be managed "by some person alone". Please do your homework, and read the proposal, especially this one: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/05/msg00131.html > No. The dpendencies

Re: Proposal: Repository for fast-paced package backports

2018-12-27 Thread Dominik George
> Basically you would like to build an architecture equivalent to Ubuntu's > PPA No. Please at least try reading the thread first - it was explicitly explained several times that this has absolutely nothing to do with the idea of PPAs. -nik signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Proposal: Repository for fast-paced package backports

2018-12-27 Thread Joseph Herlant
Hi guys, Trying to make sure I understand clearly this long thread here. Basically you would like to build an architecture equivalent to Ubuntu's PPA that users could add to their apt sources to get newer versions faster instead of dealing with their apt preferences? I personally like the curren

Re: Proposal: Repository for fast-paced package backports

2018-12-27 Thread Dominik George
Den 27. desember 2018 12:30:33 CET, skrev Holger Levsen : >On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 11:37:21PM +0100, Dominik George wrote: >> As long as the package is in -volatile > >FYI: as long as this proposal is been presented with the name -volatile >it's dead to me and saves me from reading mails in this th

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