Re: [OT] NM vs. wicd

2012-04-02 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2012-03-31 05:42:41 +0200, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote: > On 31/03/12 01:03, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2012-03-30 19:43:48 +0200, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote: > >> Check that you don't have GLAN/WLAN or something like that enabled on > >> /proc/acpi/wakeup > > > > xvii:~> cat /pro

Re: [OT] NM vs. wicd

2012-04-01 Thread Michael Stapelberg
Hi Svante, Excerpts from Svante Signell's message of 2012-04-01 20:56:40 +0200: > Adding to the problems with NM, it is not even possible to edit or add a > connection: Failed to add new connection: (32) Insufficient privileges. > > Looks like you have to start the graphical environment with: Con

Re: [OT] NM vs. wicd

2012-04-01 Thread Rémi Vanicat
Svante Signell writes: > On Sun, 2012-04-01 at 16:16 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: >> On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote: >> >> > I had problems with my laptop also waking up mysteriously randomly on >> > unknown events and I managed to solve it just disabling all wakeu

Re: [OT] NM vs. wicd

2012-04-01 Thread Svante Signell
On Sun, 2012-04-01 at 16:16 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote: > > > I had problems with my laptop also waking up mysteriously randomly on > > unknown events and I managed to solve it just disabling all wakeup > > events except PBTN > > T

Re: [OT] NM vs. wicd

2012-04-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote: > I had problems with my laptop also waking up mysteriously randomly on > unknown events and I managed to solve it just disabling all wakeup > events except PBTN That sounds like an hack. Wouldn't it be better to log the resume r

Re: [OT] NM vs. wicd

2012-03-30 Thread Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez
On 31/03/12 01:03, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2012-03-30 19:43:48 +0200, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote: >> On 30/03/12 12:29, Vincent Lefevre wrote: >>> I don't know what's going on exactly, but from the logs, it seems >>> that when suspending, the connection is ended (as expected), but >>> the

Re: [OT] NM vs. wicd

2012-03-30 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2012-03-30 19:43:48 +0200, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote: > On 30/03/12 12:29, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > I don't know what's going on exactly, but from the logs, it seems > > that when suspending, the connection is ended (as expected), but > > then, wicd tries to reconnect, and this may inte

Re: [OT] NM vs. wicd

2012-03-30 Thread Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez
On 30/03/12 12:29, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > I don't know what's going on exactly, but from the logs, it seems > that when suspending, the connection is ended (as expected), but > then, wicd tries to reconnect, and this may interrupt the suspend. Check that you don't have GLAN/WLAN or something lik

Re: [OT] NM vs. wicd (was: Re: On init in Debian)

2012-03-30 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2012-03-29 23:23:52 -0400, Chris Knadle wrote: > On Thursday, March 29, 2012 04:09:57, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > Well, wicd has its own bugs, such as preventing a laptop from > > suspending. > > Hmm. That sucks. I'd like to debug why you're running into this. However > I've been using wic

[OT] NM vs. wicd (was: Re: On init in Debian)

2012-03-29 Thread Chris Knadle
On Thursday, March 29, 2012 04:09:57, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2012-03-29 02:43:33 +0200, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote: > > $ sudo apt-get remove network-manager* > > $ sudo apt-get install wicd wicd-curses wicd-gtk > > > > ^ wicd-kde ? > > > > $ wic

Re: [OT] NM vs. wicd (was: Re: On init in Debian)

2012-03-29 Thread The Fungi
On 2012-03-29 11:15:30 +0100 (+0100), Philip Hands wrote: [...] > I'd only use either to make flipping between wireless networks something > where I don't need to keep the comandline incantations in my head [...] And indeed, I just "keep the commandline incantations in my head" for ifupdown, wirel

Re: [OT] NM vs. wicd (was: Re: On init in Debian)

2012-03-29 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2012-03-29 11:15:30 +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > I'd only use either to make flipping between wireless networks something > where I don't need to keep the comandline incantations in my head > anyway, so the last thing I need is NM noticing that I've plugged or > unplugged an ethernet cable, and

[OT] NM vs. wicd (was: Re: On init in Debian)

2012-03-29 Thread Philip Hands
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:20:50 +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: ... > I could file bugs, but I have so many problems that I'm better off > switching to NM. Well, that's constructive -- well done. I think you'll find that there are two groups of users (at least), one that is relatively happy with the assu