On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:20:50 +0200, Mike Hommey <m...@glandium.org> wrote: ... > I could file bugs, but I have so many problems that I'm better off > switching to NM.
Well, that's constructive -- well done. I think you'll find that there are two groups of users (at least), one that is relatively happy with the assumptions made by the NM developers, another who are driven immediately insane by how broken those assumptions are. I'm in the latter camp, so I ran screaming from NM to wicd, and have been fairly happy ever since, but then I don't use gnome, I do use interesting bridging and VPN setups, and I fairly often have wired and wireless connections running at the same time, so I shouldn't really expect NM to be a good fit for me, and I don't. Wicd does have rough edges, but they make some sort of sense to me, whereas NM just fights with what I wanted to happen. I'd only use either to make flipping between wireless networks something where I don't need to keep the comandline incantations in my head anyway, so the last thing I need is NM noticing that I've plugged or unplugged an ethernet cable, and doing something about it. Clearly, other people want to be able to plug an ethernet cable in and have it Just Work. It seems to me that most of the people complaining about either of these are actually complaining about their own preferences, and how they are not served as well by one tool than another. This has sod all to do with init variants. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] http://www.hands.com/ |-| HANDS.COM Ltd. http://www.uk.debian.org/ |(| 10 Onslow Gardens, South Woodford, London E18 1NE ENGLAND
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