Re: It makes no sense to link vmlinuz and initramfs to the root directory

2024-11-14 Thread Iustin Pop
On 2024-11-14 10:31:46, Michael Stone wrote: > On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 11:10:54PM +0100, Iustin Pop wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 02:14:34PM +0800, kindusmith wrote: > > > > In early Unix, boot and vmunix were both stored in the root directory as > > > >

Re: It makes no sense to link vmlinuz and initramfs to the root directory

2024-11-14 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 04:39:28PM +0100, Iustin Pop wrote: Indeed. But even the comment, by itself, I think raises a question - why do we (still) do this? Because there's very little incentive to change it.

Re: It makes no sense to link vmlinuz and initramfs to the root directory

2024-11-14 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 11:10:54PM +0100, Iustin Pop wrote: On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 02:14:34PM +0800, kindusmith wrote: > In early Unix, boot and vmunix were both stored in the root directory as > programs, and boot was used to start vmunix. Debian inherited this for > compatibility

Re: It makes no sense to link vmlinuz and initramfs to the root directory

2024-11-13 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2024-11-12 at 23:10 +0100, Iustin Pop wrote: > On 2024-11-12 12:45:47, Michael Stone wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 02:14:34PM +0800, kindusmith wrote: > > > In early Unix, boot and vmunix were both stored in the root directory as > > > programs, and bo

Re: It makes no sense to link vmlinuz and initramfs to the root directory

2024-11-13 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Nov 12, Iustin Pop wrote: > The question is why on a default install with grub, which doesn't need > nor use the symlinks, are they still created. For most systems, they're > superfluous. > > iustin, who also dislikes these and always needs to disable them Agreed. -- ciao, Marco signature

Re: It makes no sense to link vmlinuz and initramfs to the root directory

2024-11-12 Thread Iustin Pop
On 2024-11-12 12:45:47, Michael Stone wrote: > On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 02:14:34PM +0800, kindusmith wrote: > > In early Unix, boot and vmunix were both stored in the root directory as > > programs, and boot was used to start vmunix. Debian inherited this for > > compatibili

Re: It makes no sense to link vmlinuz and initramfs to the root directory

2024-11-12 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 02:14:34PM +0800, kindusmith wrote: In early Unix, boot and vmunix were both stored in the root directory as programs, and boot was used to start vmunix. Debian inherited this for compatibility, but the situation has changed a lot. Today, boot is stored in the root

Re: Re: It makes no sense to link vmlinuz and initramfs to the root directory

2024-11-12 Thread Guillem Jover
me, the default location of the symlinks (which was the initial complaint) pollutes the root directory with files that to me do not belong there. > Having the symlink is very practical for bootloaders that are not grub. > Pointing an extlinux.conf or a boot.scr to /vmlinuz instead of having t

Re: Re: It makes no sense to link vmlinuz and initramfs to the root directory

2024-11-12 Thread Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues
Quoting Hans (2024-11-12 09:35:08) > However, maybe a link is alo no more needed, even with a seperated /boot > partition. It's just a symlink. What's the harm? Having the symlink is very practical for bootloaders that are not grub. Pointing an extlinux.conf or a boot.scr to /vmlinuz instead of h

Re: It makes no sense to link vmlinuz and initramfs to the root directory

2024-11-12 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 09:35:08AM +0100, Hans wrote: > Am Dienstag, 12. November 2024, 07:14:34 CET schrieb kindusmith: > In very early linux, as far as I remember in SuSE-Linux, the kernel was > installed in a small partition /boot (about 3 or 4 sizes of the kernel) and a > link ponting to the

Re: It makes no sense to link vmlinuz and initramfs to the root directory

2024-11-12 Thread Hans
ly Unix, boot and vmunix were both stored in the root directory as > programs, and boot was used to start vmunix. Debian inherited this for > compatibility, but the situation has changed a lot. Today, boot is > stored in the root directory as a directory, which already contains the >

Re: It makes no sense to link vmlinuz and initramfs to the root directory

2024-11-11 Thread Bjørn Mork
Geert Stappers writes: > Chesters fence Chesterton's? Bjørn

Re: It makes no sense to link vmlinuz and initramfs to the root directory

2024-11-11 Thread Geert Stappers
On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 02:14:34PM +0800, kindusmith wrote: > In early Unix, boot and vmunix were both stored in the root directory as > programs, and boot was used to start vmunix. Debian inherited this for > compatibility, but the situation has changed a lot. Today, boot is stored in &

It makes no sense to link vmlinuz and initramfs to the root directory

2024-11-11 Thread kindusmith
In early Unix, boot and vmunix were both stored in the root directory as programs, and boot was used to start vmunix. Debian inherited this for compatibility, but the situation has changed a lot. Today, boot is stored in the root directory as a directory, which already contains the kernel

Re: /root directory

2017-06-06 Thread Steve McIntyre
jvieir...@sapo.pt wrote: > >In the Debian tutorials, somewhere in the Debian file system[1] page >it states: “When you refer to root directory it means you talk about >the root of the file system: ‘/’. This is different from the home >directory for the root user: ‘/roo

Re: /root directory

2017-06-05 Thread Vincent Bernat
ned by Debian. Most documentation won't talk about /root (except to present it as the home of root). Calling "/" another name than the root directory would just confuse users. -- Parenthesise to avoid ambiguity. - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plauger) signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: /root directory

2017-06-05 Thread Paul Wise
leave a comment on the page. > Would it be feasible to change the name of the /root directory to sort out > the confusion? It could be renamed as /adm, for instance. Anyone can do that on their own systems quite simply (manually update /etc/passwd, rename the directory) but I expect that do

Re: /root directory

2017-06-05 Thread Marvin Renich
* jvieir...@sapo.pt [170605 11:33]: > Hi, > > In the Debian tutorials, somewhere in the Debian file system[1] page it > states: “When you refer to root directory it means you talk about the root > of the file system: ‘/’. This is different from the home directory for the >

/root directory

2017-06-05 Thread jvieira33
Hi, In the Debian tutorials, somewhere in the Debian file system[1] page it states: “When you refer to root directory it means you talk about the root of the file system: ‘/’. This is different from the home directory for the root user: ‘/root’.” The use of the same term with different

Bug#845087: ITP: node-pkg-dir -- Find the root directory of a npm package

2016-11-20 Thread Pirate Praveen
: Expat Programming Lang: JavaScript Description : Find the root directory of a npm package signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature