Re: Notice with dbconfig-common

2011-11-22 Thread sean finney
Hi Nicolas, On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 10:59:22PM +0100, Nicolas wrote: >> The message is : NOTICE: CREATE TABLE / PRIMARY KEY will create an > implicit index ... > > I understand the message but I don't know how to fix it. For postgreSQL > point of view it doesn't seems to be a problem and tables

Re: Two groups of users, one distro in the middle

2011-11-15 Thread sean finney
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 03:33:02PM +0100, Gergely Nagy wrote: > Furthermore, packages in Debian are - to the best of my knowledge - > adapted already to use /usr/bin/nodejs, packages outside can still work > unmodified, if the user makes a simple symlink. Document this, and all's > well. I don't t

Re: libpopt

2011-11-05 Thread sean finney
Hiya, On Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 07:00:58PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > > > we have many packages which are build against popt. Some of them > > have included a bundled (inlined) verion of popt. But they are using > > Debian's libopt-dev like

Re: Announcing derivatives patches and call for help and feedback

2011-10-25 Thread sean finney
hiya, On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 03:50:07PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > For the presentation side of things I am thinking one approach might be > to move UbuntuDiff[8] to the QA infrastructure, generalise it and > enhance it for this purpose. This will necessarily include mechanisms to > mark patches a

Re: load of apache module for a package

2011-09-19 Thread sean finney
hi olivier, On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:38:22AM +0200, olivier sallou wrote: > Hi, > I need some apache modules for a package. > > Should I use a2enmod in postinst script, or, is there any debhelper/deb file > way to do it? i don't know of any helper utilities for this, so you might need to do th

Re: how to handle *.ucf files in /etc/apache2/conf.d?

2011-09-16 Thread sean finney
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 08:38:37AM +0200, Heiko Schlittermann wrote: > > a) having apache to ignore *.ucf* generally > b) just change in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf > include conf.d/ >into > include conf.d/*.conf >and ask all packages placing files there to

Re: Mistake in postrm preventing functioning of newer package (stable/testing/unstable)

2011-09-09 Thread sean finney
On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 11:37:41AM +0200, David Paleino wrote: > I just wanted to (try to) fix it for the biggest number of people possible. > Maybe I'll just leave stable as-is, and try the solution I described within > testing/unstable :/ Another option, as awful as it sounds, is to nuke (or sur

Re: How to close bug #620550?

2011-08-08 Thread sean finney
gelog for reference: php5 (5.1.6-4) unstable; urgency=high [sean finney] * no longer build against GPL'd gdbm library (closes: #390452). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscri

Re: Behaviour of dpkg-source with "3.0 (quilt)" and VCS and automatic patches

2011-06-01 Thread sean finney
On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 02:39:42PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > And note that as maintainer or for the VCS copy you can allways > configure debian/soruce/local-options to unapply patches if you so > desire. This is something i've been doing quite happily and I think it is a pretty decent c

Re: bug reporting workflow is outdated

2011-05-23 Thread sean finney
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 01:47:22AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > I suggest that we can make an HTTP based bug reporting method. > > The only advantage of this would be for systems that firewall outgoing > mail conections but allow http or have a http proxy but no smarthost. and that's a

Re: A concrete proposal for rolling implementation

2011-05-09 Thread sean finney
Hi Teodor/Bruce, On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 05:48:25PM +0300, Teodor MICU wrote: > I've been disappointed at first to read that so many approve this > "rolling" implementation that in fact is just "c-u-t", constantly > usable testing [1]! Outside of the freeze period it doesn't really > matter and on

Re: glibc: causes segfault in Xorg

2011-05-05 Thread sean finney
Hi, On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 10:56:27PM -0500, Steve M. Robbins wrote: > > And furthermore, even if Debian chooses to "fix" this, upstreams will > > be forced to eventually cater to the default glibc behavior for every > > other libc distro out there that does not have their own "fix" (and > > non-

Re: A concrete proposal for rolling implementation

2011-05-04 Thread sean finney
Hiya, On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 10:25:35PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 02:24:12PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > What to do during freezes > > - > > If we want to do something different though, there is a simple recipe: > > allow package

Re: glibc: causes segfault in Xorg

2011-05-04 Thread sean finney
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 12:29:50PM +0200, Julien BLACHE wrote: > "Steve M. Robbins" wrote: > > Hi, > > > I'm with Linus on this: let's just revert to the old behaviour. A > > tiny amount of clock cycles saved isn't worth the instability. > > Tiny amount?! The optimized memcpy() variants that b

Re: Debian rolling: tentative summary

2011-05-03 Thread sean finney
Hi Lucas, On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 02:59:04PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > I think that one of the conclusions of the discussion from the last few > days is that the freeze "blockage" has very good features that many of > us are not willing to give up, like the ability to focus the DDs on > worki

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-03 Thread sean finney
Hi Carsten, A bit late on responding to your mails, but... On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 01:56:14AM +0200, Carsten Hey wrote: > > > So if we tell users to use this repository, we're going to have > > > some users (I upgrade my servers to testing during the freeze and I > > > would enable it if it was g

Re: Debian rolling: tentative summary

2011-05-03 Thread sean finney
Hi Lucas, I appreciate your effort to try and sum things up. However, I'd like to raise the point that the discussion was about more than just having a "rolling" and "user-oriented" testing release. The feedback that started (or at least helped springboard) this massive thread was that "when we'

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-01 Thread sean finney
On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 11:17:21PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > The problem is, you need to entry points, one for testing as we know it, > one for rolling. > So basically you split our users in two non overlapping sets, meaning > that you divide coverage and tests. How come is that in the distr

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-01 Thread sean finney
Hi Ste(ve|fano), On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 12:02:47PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 04:17:10PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > JFYI, Sean and Raphael have taken DEP number 10 > > They have? I haven't seen mail to debian-project about this, which is what > http://dep.d

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-30 Thread sean finney
Hi Neil, On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 08:48:24PM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: > Indeed. Personally, I believe it would also be unreasonable to ask DDs, > and indeed the release, security, and FTP teams to support testing and > rolling. Especially before it has been proven to be negligible extra > effort

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-30 Thread sean finney
Hi Andreas, On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 08:29:22PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > But one can't expect that it's enough to say "great idea, but someone > else will do it". If someone wants to setup rolling.d.n, fine. I'm > happy to help setting up britney, release foo, whatever. But someone > has to t

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-30 Thread sean finney
Hi! (accumulated replies FTW) On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 11:20:31PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > * unstable always feeds to testing > > * "release N" == "testing", until the "freeze". > > You know that we had once "frozen", and have given up since as that > didn't scale even back then? I thin

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread sean finney
Hi guys, On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 08:23:33PM +, Philipp Kern wrote: > >* RM's can still choose to migrate packages from (not frozen) testing as > > long as it's practical to do so. > >* When deps/transitions/etc prevent testing migration, "release N > > proposed updates" is us

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-27 Thread sean finney
Hi Mehdi, On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 05:58:46PM +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: > Funny… reading your recent blogpost, you seem to not understand yet what > you want to put into Rolling (and how). So, how can we comment on > something that's not set or clearly described yet? Make a plan first, ask > for q

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-15 Thread sean finney
(throttled the conversation back a bit, hoping that someone from the release team might take the time to chime in) On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 02:21:38PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > In the way I had thought of things, "rolling" == "testing". That's to > > say that nextstable branches off the m

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-15 Thread sean finney
Hi, On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 10:03:40AM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: > For the record, this was (at least) bugs #432322 and #439917, and I'm > extremely > pleased that the issues have been resolved. Well done and thank you to all > involved. AIUI they weren't resolved, but the scope of the problem

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-13 Thread sean finney
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 11:56:23AM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: > On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 07:22:47PM +0300, Faidon Liambotis wrote: > > It also can't do VLANs (.1q), bridges, bonds and all possible > > permutations of the above. I'd speculate that it also wouldn't be able > > to do things like 1k

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-13 Thread sean finney
Hi Raphaël, On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 08:50:04AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Sun, 10 Apr 2011, sean finney wrote: > > My suggestion/feedback would be that we find a way where releases aren't > > managed so linearly, and can be be handled in a more parallel manner > &g

Re: Bug#621833: System users: removing them

2011-04-12 Thread sean finney
Hi Lars, On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 06:41:10PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > But shouldn't we say they _must_ lock package-specific system users > > and groups when the package is removed ? > > I think that's a good idea. Steve Langasek in the bug (#621833) and > others agree, so I think there's

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-03-17 Thread Sean Finney
On Wed, 2011-03-16 at 16:36 +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > Then, you need a way to patch them. There is lots of software where > > you need to patch configure.ac and/or Makefile.am > > That's fine, you patch the input, rerun the autofoobar stuff, and then > build the source package with diff. If y

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-03-16 Thread sean finney
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:29:57PM +, Marcin Owsiany wrote: > * maintain a whitelist of distributed files, and "rm" everything >else (apart from the debian directory) in the clean target. > >Since I use (or plan to use) git-buildpackage, I don't have a tarball >which could serve a

Re: Setting file capabilites of files shipped in binary packages

2011-03-14 Thread sean finney
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 01:17:02PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > No, I don't think there's a way to do that programmatically. You would > just have to try capset and then chmod u+s. instead of chmod, you would actually want something that checked/respected dpkg-statoverride, rather than hard-codi

Re: Lintian check for missing desktop files?

2011-03-03 Thread Sean Finney
On Thu, 2011-03-03 at 23:01 +0100, Christoph Egger wrote: > Sune Vuorela writes: > > (isn't it only icewm and ratpoison and blackbox we might 'lose' by > > simply killing the debian menu) > > Last time I checked fluxbox and awesome where both debian menu only as > well. instead of letting the ta

Re: enable/disable flags in /etc/default

2011-03-03 Thread Sean Finney
On Thu, 2011-03-03 at 10:37 +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > | Is there any reason against using a debconf script that asks if the > | daemon should be started at boot time (or on which runlevels)? That > | way you can easily modify the configuration with dpkg-reconfigure and > | benefit from the de

Re: enable/disable flags in /etc/default

2011-03-02 Thread sean finney
hi zack, On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 09:41:18AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > without telling which those "several tools" are. According to this > thread, the recommended tool among them is "mv" (in the hope that the > sysadm knows by heart that they have to run insserv afterwards). there's a fe

Re: enable/disable flags in /etc/default

2011-03-02 Thread sean finney
On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 08:30:24PM +0100, Olaf van der Spek wrote: > > time the package is upgraded.  i mean, it's not even that great for > > maintainer scripts, as evidenced by the total inconsistency for how > > developers are managing enabling/disabling of their services. > > Isn't that handle

Re: Potential memory leaks reported by Valgrind against some frequently used commands

2011-03-01 Thread sean finney
On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 08:38:42PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/01/2011 06:19 AM, ximalaya wrote: >> BTW, I ever tried on Redhat Linux 9, no such problem. >> > > This is the interesting part. Is RH keeping their patches, or are > upstream and other distros just not determining them worthwhi

Re: enable/disable flags in /etc/default

2011-03-01 Thread Sean Finney
On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 17:19 +0100, Olaf van der Spek wrote: > >> So what *is* the proper UI? > > > > The sensible abstraction for this is 'service' - but it doesn't appear that > > service has support for enable/disable yet :( > > Do other distro's use service for this? actually i think chkconfig

Re: enable/disable flags in /etc/default

2011-02-26 Thread Sean Finney
On Sat, 2011-02-26 at 21:44 +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > I'd like us to decide on a policy about enable/disable flags in > /etc/default in general. Either all daemons should have them or no > daemons should have them, and if we have them, I think we should have > the value in the default file s

Re: Bug#612752: Bind fails to start if $OPENSSL_CONF is set

2011-02-26 Thread Sean Finney
On Sat, 2011-02-26 at 14:32 +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > > > > The right way to do this is, IMNSHO, what systemd does and just have > > init handle starting and stopping the job. That ensures there's no > > inconsistency between boot-time starting and starting later by hand. > > Right, but it m

Re: [php-maint] Bug#614413: re buildd's resolver and package's build deps

2011-02-22 Thread Sean Finney
hi, On Mon, 2011-02-21 at 19:42 -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote: > I disagree here. > Alternatives in build-* relationships *are* mentioned by policy. In fact, > there's even an example in section 7.1. > > There's also no stated guarantee *anywhere* (including release policy) that > the package's

Bug#613857: RFA: cacti + cacti-spine

2011-02-17 Thread sean finney
Package: wnpp Severity: normal -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Due largely to the fact that I'm no longer using cacti on a regular basis, I think cacti and spine should get a new maintainer. Both packages are relatively up to date and in decent shape, and the upstream authors are r

Re: git-buildpackage branch names

2011-02-11 Thread sean finney
hi jérémy, On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 09:46:13AM +0100, Jérémy Lal wrote: > What's the best way to name gbp branches ? > I thought of something like : > 2.0 1.0.x > mastermaster-1.0.x > upstream upstream-1.0.x > pristine-tar pristine-tar

Re: Removing dbconfig support ?

2010-12-08 Thread sean finney
hi there, (for future reference dbconfig-common-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org is probably the proper place for this type of discussion). On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 11:31:22AM +0100, Pierre Chifflier wrote: > Since the package is using dbconfig since a few versions, I'm now facing > an upgrade proble

how to best handle this library update?

2010-09-05 Thread sean finney
the package in question is xmlrpc-c, which provides among other things libxmlrpc-c3. this package contains runtime libraries for c and c++ applications. it has a fairly small (6, from a quick look) set of reverse dependencies. in the version in testing/unstable, these c/c++ libraries shared the

Re: Atlas proposal [and 1 more messages]

2010-08-26 Thread sean finney
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 06:46:18PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Goswin von Brederlow writes ("Re: Atlas proposal [and 1 more messages]"): > > Just dumping the compiled files into /usr/lib/ I find quite unacceptable > > too. > > No, it is absolutely fine and it is what atlas-auto should do. It is >

Re: Re (2): lilo removal in squeeze / new lilo upstream

2010-06-07 Thread sean finney
hi, this should all be prefaced with the disclaimer that i'm not actually using lilo at the moment, but i thought i'd throw in something due to some of the comments/posturing that i've been seeing here. On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 01:44:05AM +0400, William Pitcock wrote: > Have fun. When you have a

Re: correctly using other packages in postrm

2010-05-31 Thread sean finney
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 09:02:50PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > Hmm, what's the risk of changing it? I guess if dependencies are allowed to > be purged when a package depending on them is removed-but-not-purged, > dbconfig-common could obliterate config files that the depending package > expects

Re: correctly using other packages in postrm

2010-05-31 Thread sean finney
hi, On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 12:24:48PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > Does dbconfig-common know about all of these config files? > > I think it's the responsibility of dbconfig-common to track them, and remove > them on purge. That way if your package is purged while dbconfig-common is > install

Re: Anounce of a secure repo for debian

2010-05-31 Thread sean finney
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 05:43:25PM +0200, Hilko Bengen wrote: > > You can find this repository at ftp://ftp.ethgen.de/pub/debian-security > > (deb ftp://ftp.ethgen.de/pub/debian-security sid unofficial-secured). > > To avoid confusion, please call your repository "debian-security-ng". or perhaps

Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)

2010-05-30 Thread sean finney
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 09:40:48PM +, brian m. carlson wrote: > The difference is that those tools provide a reasonable level of > functionality with free data. Weather information is in the public > domain because there's no originality to it. Most programs that display > lyrics or album cov

Re: Downgrading a package to get it into upcoming release

2010-02-17 Thread sean finney
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 09:24:30AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Tue, 16 Feb 2010, Antonin Kral wrote: > > Epochs as well as +reverted will definitely work but looks a bit too > > hackish to me. > > Epochs have been designed precisely for this. It's not hackish... but they > are somewhat ugly

Re: Flag images

2010-02-17 Thread sean finney
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 08:53:56AM +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > On lun., 2010-02-15 at 12:03 -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > > Flags are a poor representation of a particular language, and language > > selection is better handled using locales and content-negotiation > > anyway. [There are many

Re: Downgrading a package to get it into upcoming release

2010-02-16 Thread sean finney
hi, On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 12:10:16PM -0500, Asheesh Laroia wrote: > You could use epochs to make the old version have a newer version > number according to dpkg. I don't know how distasteful that is, > though. it also might be a bit disruptive for those who have already installed the newer vers

Re: JPEG 8 transition

2010-02-14 Thread sean finney
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 10:18:28AM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote: > The first step is to fix packages that Depend on 'libjpeg62-dev'. They should > Depend on 'libjpeg-dev' instead. Please do not make them Depend on > 'libjpeg8-dev', or 'libjpeg-dev|libjpeg62-dev' or 'libjpeg-dev|libjpeg8-dev' > or

Re: git and quilt

2010-02-04 Thread sean finney
hi! On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 04:25:40PM -0600, Matt Zagrabelny wrote: > Allbery [1] regarding git and Debian packaging. I am wondering if those > who use git to manage their source package development are also using > the debian/patches mechanism for modifying the upstream tarball. i use git+gbp+q

Re: [Pkg-hpijs-devel] Bug#562194: hplip: hp-plugin writes to /usr/share

2009-12-27 Thread sean finney
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 10:34:26AM +, Tim Retout wrote: > On Sat, 2009-12-26 at 17:47 +1100, Mark Purcell wrote: > > On Thursday 24 December 2009 05:30:25 Tim Retout wrote: > > > hp-plugin downloads firmware and plugins into > > > /usr/share/hplip/data/{firmware,plugins}. To quote the FHS: > >

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-07 Thread sean finney
hiya, On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 07:36:18PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > I think there's ongoing work to support debconf prompting for conffiles, but > I don't think there's movement on integrating ucf functionality into dpkg. > ICBW, though. there was some work at some point on integrating debcon

Re: Bug#559039: ITP: snmp-mibs-downloader -- Downloads RFCs and IANA Docs containing MIBs and extracts them

2009-12-01 Thread sean finney
hi jochen, (cc'ing to -devel in case there are others who disagree with me) On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 01:40:43PM +0100, Jochen Friedrich wrote: > This package contains a script which downloads RFCs containing SNMP MIB > files and extracts them into /usr/share/mibs/ietf. It also downloads the > most

Re: common, FHS-compliant, default document root for the various web servers

2009-11-15 Thread sean finney
hi stefano, On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:09:20AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > I understand this problem, but I think you're shooting at the wrong > target. The advanced proposal (beside the aesthetically displeasing > name) is about standardizing a default vendor document root on disk so > tha

Re: Possible MBF wrt common, FHS-compliant, default document root for the various web servers

2009-11-10 Thread sean finney
hi jan, On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 09:15:43AM +0100, Jan Hauke Rahm wrote: > Not that I'm opposing to what you're saying but... every application in > the archive is configured during the installation process, possibly > asking debconf questions, providing defaults etc. After the installation > it sh

Re: common, FHS-compliant, default document root for the various web servers

2009-11-10 Thread sean finney
hi! On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 09:29:13AM +0100, Jan Hauke Rahm wrote: > > Support for multiple independent instances configured to use arbitrary > > locations for data/configuration, arbitrary vhosts and arbitrary > > sub-paths of those vhosts. > > That means: as many files reusable by each instanc

Re: Possible MBF wrt common, FHS-compliant, default document root for the various web servers

2009-11-09 Thread sean finney
On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 06:15:42PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > I frankly hope that with /vendor/ + /usr/lib/cgi-bin/ (which we already > have), and maybe with some symlinks under /vendor/ we will be able to > address quite a lot of issues. It would be interesting to known which > one we can'

Re: common, FHS-compliant, default document root for the various web servers

2009-11-09 Thread sean finney
hi guys, On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 02:56:59PM +0100, Jan Hauke Rahm wrote: > > To try making it a bit less ugly (and hard to type due to the moving > > nature of "-" as others have pointed out), I just try to mediate with > > "/vendor/". > > FWIW, I'm fine with /vendor. personally, beyond the aest

Re: dir-or-file-in-var-www on single-HTML file web "apps" or the like

2009-11-04 Thread sean finney
hiya, On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 08:49:54AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > with respect to those that don't, it's been previously discussed and > > deemed okay for them not to work out of the box, which is a relatively > > small cost for the benefit of FHS compliance and general safety/sanity.

Re: dir-or-file-in-var-www on single-HTML file web "apps" or the like

2009-11-03 Thread sean finney
On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 02:54:48PM -0800, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: > > Reading ?5.3 of the above link, I wonder whether the following solution > > would be appropriate: > > > > - ship under /etc/apache2/conf.d/ a snippet with an Alias dir mapping > > the package name to a dir containing the s

Re: dir-or-file-in-var-www on single-HTML file web "apps" or the like

2009-11-03 Thread sean finney
hi zack, On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 10:49:42PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > Reading §5.3 of the above link, I wonder whether the following solution > would be appropriate: > > - ship under /etc/apache2/conf.d/ a snippet with an Alias dir mapping > the package name to a dir containing the sta

Re: /var/www is depracated, which directory to use?

2009-11-02 Thread sean finney
hi stig, On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 02:48:56PM +0100, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote: > Tom Feiner writes: > > > Is /var/cache really such a bad option? I mean, the entire web content > > is re-generated from templates & graphs are re-generated from the rrd > > databases every 5 minutes. So even if s

Re: /var/www is depracated, which directory to use?

2009-10-31 Thread sean finney
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 06:46:42PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Samstag, 31. Oktober 2009, sean finney wrote: > > if it's regenerable, then i'd say /var/cache/munin/something is the > > right place, and if isn't /var/lib/munin/something. if you seperate > >

Re: /var/www is depracated, which directory to use?

2009-10-31 Thread sean finney
hi holger, On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 05:51:26PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > +1 from yet. Yet I still don't know how to configure munin, so that it works > out of the box (and so that the webpages it generates are served by a > webserver) and conforms to FHS like some people read it. > > /var/li

Re: /var/www is depracated, which directory to use?

2009-10-05 Thread sean finney
hi, On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 08:14:19AM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > I believe most (or at least many) of those only support a single web > root. If you want to serve munin's static content from /usr/share/munin > and foo's static content from /usr/share/foo , you'll probably just > symlink both f

Re: /var/www is depracated, which directory to use?

2009-10-04 Thread sean finney
hi stig, (sorry for the late reply) On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 09:23:17AM +0200, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote: > sean finney writes: > > > there is, it's called webapps-common[1]. unfortunately what *is* > > missing is developers with time to put into maintaining it, whic

Re: /var/www is depracated, which directory to use?

2009-09-29 Thread sean finney
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 04:12:58PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > I think the real problem here is that we have some missing integration > glue. A lot of packages want to serve things out via the web by default > unless the sysadmin has indicated that they want control over the URL > space. Apache

Re: /var/www is depracated, which directory to use?

2009-09-27 Thread sean finney
hi holger, russ, On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 12:36:43AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Holger Levsen writes: > > > currently munin ships some file(s) in /var/www/munin/ and also puts its > > generated graphs there. This location has been depracted and we, the > > munin maintainers, would like to come

Re: zendframework package with or without bin package

2009-09-22 Thread sean finney
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 06:22:20PM -0500, Raphael Geissert wrote: > > > > I also want to rename the package to libphp-zendframework. > > > > biased answer: ugh, why? > That reminds me some of the libfoo-bar-moo-invent-something-else-here > packages we have in the archive. the php policy draft r

Re: udev and /usr

2009-09-01 Thread sean finney
On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 03:01:35PM +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: > Jonas Meurer wrote: > >do we really consider to stop support for seperate /usr? after all fhs > >supports seperate /usr by design. [1] > >i hope that we keep fhs compability within debian. > > I agree, but the problem is "how?

Re: about device driver pgm.

2009-08-28 Thread sean finney
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:31:08AM +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: > I assume that you wrote a kernel driver, thus the problem is in your code: also, please note that this list is for development *of* debian, not for development *on* debian, so this is not really the proper forum for this type

Re: maybe ITP of lib DomainKeys

2009-07-30 Thread sean finney
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 05:01:12PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > I've packaged libdomainkeys for internal use and am considering adding a > package that depends on it to Debian/Unstable. Is the domainkeys license > suitable for inclusion in Debian? seems to meet all the critera, doesn't it? th

Re: Comments on the "Changing the default system shell" talk

2009-07-27 Thread sean finney
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 11:47:00PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > You think the average user doesn't care about getting 50% faster boot > > speeds? > > Now, where do you get the 50% faster speedup? I seem to recall > a post on this list which reported much more modest speedups, and >

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-07-16 Thread sean finney
hi raphael, On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:16:01PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > How do you expect to recognize the real starting point for the fields? > The freetext might contain text that look like field names at the start > of a line... I don't think that requesting fields to be first in the p

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-07-03 Thread sean finney
here's a nice big group-reply with an assortment of comments :) overall i think this looks pretty good, though i do have some concerns that will kind of repeat themselves below about there being too much emphasis on something machine friendly instead of human friendly... On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 1

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-16 Thread sean finney
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 05:44:55PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > * `Debian-Specific` (optional) > > > >Is this patch a debian-specific patch that is not intended to be > >shared with upstream? For example, changes to specify Debian-specific > >application paths, configuration file

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-16 Thread sean finney
hi, (yay for group reply) On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 06:12:49PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > * `Description` (required) > > This obligatory field contains at least a short description on the > first line. Supplementary lines can be used to provide a longer > explanation of the patc

Re: Request for Comments: Standardize enabling/disabling of system services

2009-04-01 Thread sean finney
On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 10:03:07PM +0100, Stephen Gran wrote: > It feels to me like we're all kind of ignoring the current mechanism for > enabling and disabling services that we already have. > > It might be useful in this conversation to seperate out two different > ideas: yeah, i think these t

Re: Proposed hook to tag bugs as pending

2009-03-27 Thread sean finney
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 09:48:29PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Most probably yes. You would have similar problems when merging branches > too. In the dpkg repo we merged the lenny branch in master regularly and > it would have lead to the same problem as the commits would have been > scanned tw

Re: Alioth - Convert SVN repo to Git

2009-03-27 Thread sean finney
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 05:45:15PM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: > > so i've been working on another one that sends a link to > > the patch in the VCS viewer url instead, along with doing a pending tag. > > i'll have to double check on the status of this guy before i send a link > > to it though. >

Re: Proposed hook to tag bugs as pending

2009-03-27 Thread sean finney
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 09:49:14PM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: > However, this will behave horribly when the run of git-dch or whatever > tool is committed, since it will want to mark all the bugs as pending > again; that’s the part where I need suggestions. I’d rather not have the > hook need any

Re: Alioth - Convert SVN repo to Git

2009-03-26 Thread sean finney
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 08:03:25AM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > The grafts file format is pretty simple: > A small example follows: wow, that was exactly what i wanted to see. thanks for the concise crash course! sean signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Alioth - Convert SVN repo to Git

2009-03-25 Thread sean finney
hi mike, On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 03:29:59PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > You don't need to do that on initial import. You can use a grafts file > to create the history you like from these 2 unrelated branches, and > you can then use git filter-branch to rewrite the master branch to > have the commi

Re: Alioth - Convert SVN repo to Git

2009-03-24 Thread sean finney
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 09:52:28AM -0700, Ryan Niebur wrote: > > find . -type f -name 'foo*.dsc' | sort (or similar tools, make sure they're > > sorted in a way as dpkg would sort the versions) | while read i; do > > git-import-dsc $i > > done > > > > git-import-dscs (note the extra s on the

Re: Alioth - Convert SVN repo to Git

2009-03-24 Thread sean finney
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 04:39:08PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Sadly it doesn't extract closes: from debian/changelog but only from the > commit notice (and in dpkg's case I tend to not mention debian > bugs in the commit log but only in debian/changelog). yes, it was designed to work more in

Re: Alioth - Convert SVN repo to Git

2009-03-24 Thread sean finney
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 02:40:05PM +0100, Sandro Tosi wrote: > Additionally, I'm looking for a post-commit hook that can send the > commit diff via email to a ml + tagpending the bugs in the diff. I'm > pretty sure someone out there has this script ready yet, so let's > share :) i mentioned this o

Re: Alioth - Convert SVN repo to Git

2009-03-24 Thread sean finney
hiya, On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 12:29:08PM +0100, Sandro Tosi wrote: > I tried to put together a guide[1] to convert SVN repo to Git hosted on > Alioth. > > [1] http://wiki.debian.org/Alioth/Git#ConvertaSVNAliothrepositorytoGit > > Since I'm not that expert in Git, I'd like to ask you for its rev

Re: Gratituous dependences among packages

2009-03-20 Thread sean finney
hi, On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 08:33:55PM +0200, Omer Zak wrote: > My wish is that modularization of Debian packages be improved. It means > that it'll be possible to uninstall all games in a PC and continue to > have functioning KDE. Likewise - TeX. in cases where it can function without the extr

Re: Proposal to improve package configuration upgrades

2009-02-26 Thread sean finney
hiya zack, On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 09:14:23AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > Well, it depends on how dpkg currently handles merges. My impression > (as a user, never looked at the actual code) is that it not even tries > to merge, it simply discovers that the local file is not pristine and > t

Re: ucf: Diversion of /u/b/ucf by etcgit

2009-02-23 Thread sean finney
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 09:24:17PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > > (1) I use the > > hooks provided by apt to get the original files from the > > package > > In other words, with ucf you get NOTHING, since there are no original > files in the package. They are only created temporarily while postins

Re: Bug#515154: ITP: gitg -- git repository viewer for gtk+/GNOME

2009-02-14 Thread sean finney
hiya, On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 11:20:44AM +0100, David Paleino wrote: > On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 11:17:42 +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: > > > * Jonny Lamb [Fri, 13 Feb 2009 23:41:46 +]: > > > > > Version : 0.0.0+git+37ec0c > > > > I don't know what your further plans of versioning are for

Re: Should 32-bit apps work with a 64-bit kernel?

2009-02-08 Thread sean finney
hi, On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 12:58:43PM +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > I'd think you should enable it for all 32 bit builds; it is, I think, > a step in having support for large files (files bigger than 2 or 4 > gigabytes), something we wanted to have for... woody. more specifically, what i th

Re: cgroup mount point

2009-02-03 Thread sean finney
On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 07:49:15PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > > Having one virtual filesystem mounted on top of another virtual > > filesystem seems like a recipe for problems. > > Like with /sys/fs/fuse/connections ? Come on, there is no problem with a > virtual filesystem mounted on top of anot

Re: Bug#508311: ITP: maven-archiver -- Maven Archiver

2008-12-11 Thread sean finney
hi, On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 07:29:19AM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > That describes maven itself. 'Archiver component for the Maven > > software project management and comprehension tool' would be more > > correct but this is quiet long. Would 'Archiver component for Maven' > > be okay with you? >

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