This one time, at band camp, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult said:
> On 25.11.2014 18:30, Stephen Gran wrote:
>
> > Excellent. I'm sure that if they can create a deb, they can install
> > sysvinit, or runit, or some BSD, or whatever else they want. A default
> >
but not quite as much fun as Reducto ad
Hitlerum.
> So stop this already!
You take the words out of my mouth.
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eto decisions? Would this be
> better than people leaving outright?
I veto this idea.
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should be solvable (and solved) within the team doing the work.
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cally done.
If they want to cede this responsibility to others, that's of course
fair enough.
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This one time, at band camp, Lucas Nussbaum said:
> On 01/12/13 at 17:53 +0000, Stephen Gran wrote:
> > This one time, at band camp, Lucas Nussbaum said:
>
> > What goals are set for a given release seem to me to be something
> > squarely in that realm, especially given
e
power to decide their own goals from a team, and why you think it would
be good for Debian to have one team drive another team's goals? This is
so different to how we usually work that it seems jarring.
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n to death". If you're not affected by Mark
uploading xemacs to Debian and maintaining it there for his own use,
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install both
simultaneously?
As others have said before, this sounds much more suited to debtags than
packaging metadata to me.
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This one time, at band camp, Russ Allbery said:
> Stephen Gran writes:
> > This one time, at band camp, Charles Plessy said:
>
> >> I therefore decided to stop uploading R packages to Debian. I use some
> >> of these packages on multiple computers, and will kee
this purpose.
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anything?
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he @deb MXs work
You've confirmed that postfix can talk to postfix, at least. I suppose
that's a start. The debian.org MXs are different machines to lists, and
they run exim.
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s, bugs, and security issues.
I think the answer here is, "more code could be reused by borrowing work
from google" - the NIH syndrome appears to be google's, rather than
Michael's, if I understand correctly. That's probably a fine answer,
but the question also needed to be
t's not clear to me why they need to be so large - there are 4 scripts
that need to be run in a certain order, once, at boot time. I'm sure
that that complexity could be expressed in fewer than 484 lines of shell.
This is not to knock cloud-init - i
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Stephen Gran
* Package name: igmpproxy
Version : 0.1
Upstream Author : Johnny Egeland
* URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/igmpproxy/
* License : GPL-2+
Programming Lang: C
Description : igmpproxy: simple
This one time, at band camp, Simon Chopin said:
> Quoting Stephen Gran (2013-04-25 21:17:29)
> > This one time, at band camp, Simon Chopin said:
> > > The thing itself is based on the ZeroMQ protocol.
> >
> > One of the principles, up to now, of system design for the
for looking into it - something like this would be very useful
for us.
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sed -i -e 's/^\([^#]*\)cia\.navi\.cx/\1cia.vc/' /svn/*/hooks/*cia*
There were only a few still using cia.navi.vc. Changed now.
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dd logging to the Makefile, or cat debian/mini-proveall.out or
something? This doesn't look like a dead end to me.
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This one time, at band camp, Lucas Nussbaum said:
> On 15/06/11 at 08:36 +0100, Stephen Gran wrote:
> > As a secondary issue, I think it might be useful to let DDs 'scratch
> > their itch' when it comes to QA work in a light weight way.
> > However, I'm
en that go wrong far
too often. I would like to encourage people to move services that are
useful to an appropriate place.
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This one time, at band camp, Gerfried Fuchs said:
> Hi!
>
> * Stephen Gran [2011-06-11 16:06:58 CEST]:
> > This one time, at band camp, Andreas Tille said:
> > > I would like to repeat my question about UDD access from alioth (or one
> > > / both of i
r/different.
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the preferred method for submitting a proposed fix?
A mail to ad...@alioth.debian.org or a note in the tracker item would be
very helpful.
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ser, but I'm waiting to
see what the consensus is going to be. It seems that people largely
agree, but there are a few edge cases to iron out.
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strongly enough.
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This one time, at band camp, Ian Jackson said:
> Stephen Gran writes ("Re: exim-using packages - are you relying on -C
> or -D options?"):
>
> > The current alternative is to make exim refuse to execute if the
> > config file is not in a build-time configured direct
This one time, at band camp, Ian Jackson said:
> Stephen Gran writes ("Re: exim-using packages - are you relying on -C or -D
> options?"):
> > This one time, at band camp, Ian Jackson said:
> > > sauce uses the -C option. And chiark's mail system relies on
n to the exim
account from escalating to root. There is a patch on exim-dev to allow
this to work without escalated privileges, but it's not in the lenny
exim.
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> who has trobule to understand such reasoning.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)
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> we can't release if we don't reach it.
Please proceed.
:)
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This one time, at band camp, Marc Haber said:
> On Wed, 26 May 2010 23:43:12 +0100, Stephen Gran
> wrote:
> >This one time, at band camp, Roger Leigh said:
> >> How will adduser cope with group addition; does it skip UIDs until
> >> it finds an unused unique UID/GID
on that behavior, we might as well not
deliberately break it.
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This one time, at band camp, Steve Langasek said:
> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:30:49PM +0100, Stephen Gran wrote:
> > This one time, at band camp, Michael Banck said:
>
> > > Seems worthwhile to change adduser how you suggest to me, is there
> > > a bug filed to th
is an overly blunt tool for the job
at hand.
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numbers match. Is there some
problem with username == primary group name?
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This one time, at band camp, Santiago Vila said:
> On Sun, 4 Apr 2010, Stephen Gran wrote:
>
> > > The net effect would be the same: receiving @debian.org mail on
> > > master.
> > >
> > > Am I missing anything?
> >
> > While I appreciate
This one time, at band camp, Santiago Vila said:
> On Sun, 4 Apr 2010, Stephen Gran wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Currently, there is an implicit conflation between $u...@debian.org and
> > $u...@$machine.debian.org. This means that mail to, for instance,
> &g
s to
take the software that actually runs the archive into account.
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Doesn't look like it from here, but maybe I'm missing something.
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ing to do with
an alioth list. Please ask your listadmins to filter on the headers
spamassassin provides. This isn't rocket science, and it doesn't need
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ould have thought
it was clear that option two is the better option in general?
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although half are now fixed".
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compression within
the binary packages, you can now also use them for source files.
That was my reading of it, at any rate.
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can't change it later if they don't like it.
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ue to bad timing, the autobuilt packages were not.
What that has to do with lintian based auto-rejects, I'm not really
sure, but thanks.
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This one time, at band camp, Holger Levsen said:
> Hi,
>
> On Dienstag, 27. Oktober 2009, Stephen Gran wrote:
> > While I'm happy to see some of the out of tree munin plugins getting
> > shipped, I wonder if it makes sense to have a larger bundle package,
> > so
ckage them up.
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Sounds like you think it's a good idea. Why not do it and let us know
how you get on?
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looks like a doodle poll that accidentally got ideas of grandeur and
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tes a different extension. It seems
like a reasonably compelling argument to me, but I don't feel strongly
enough to fight for it.
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Debconf had fully working ipv6. I do wish you could have reported
problems with it at the time so we could have looked at it.
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doing. If a huge number
of DDs are telling you you're wrong, you likely are. If you can't
listen to your peers, I'm guesing this abortion needs to go the TC, but
I would prefer if you could listen to what people are telling you.
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need to rush towards it.
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If that is the case, that's about the only thing that works with RPM.
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This one time, at band camp, Andreas Tille said:
> On Wed, 8 Apr 2009, Stephen Gran wrote:
>
> >If the service is important to you, there is a mailing list to follow
> >for commits and discussions somewhere.
>
> Could you please specify this "somewhere" a littl
for commits and discussions somewhere.
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themselves, so that admins can run the scripts manually or have normal
behavior from the init script when it's symlinked appropriately.
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this
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This one time, at band camp, Marco d'Itri said:
> On Mar 17, Stephen Gran wrote:
>
> > That's the first I've heard that argument - of course you don't give
> This is weird, because it has been around for quite a long time.
> E.g. cp /bin/bash .; chgrp audio
This one time, at band camp, Goswin von Brederlow said:
> Stephen Gran writes:
>
> > This one time, at band camp, Goswin von Brederlow said:
> >> 1) How to specify an arch in sources.list?
> >
> > Don't. Specify it in apt.conf
> >
>
This one time, at band camp, Marco d'Itri said:
> On Mar 17, Stephen Gran wrote:
> > This is the thinkpad /dev/nvram stuff, right? I thought for some tpctl
> > utilities to work, you currently need to be in group nvram. Making that
> > equivalent to kmem seems
am. Making that
equivalent to kmem seems unnecessarily broad to me.
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This one time, at band camp, Tollef Fog Heen said:
> ]] Stephen Gran
>
> | Put another way, I can't think of a valid use for an amd64 binary
> | depending on a ppc32 binary.
>
> Package: foo
> Depends: sed
>
> (sed is Essential: yes, but I think you get t
dependencies are i386?
Put another way, I can't think of a valid use for an amd64 binary
depending on a ppc32 binary.
> apt-get install amd64/foobar
Fine. Or maybe --arch amd64.
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This one time, at band camp, Raphael Hertzog said:
> On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Stephen Gran wrote:
> Note that I'm not asking to mandate the tool. I would like to mandate the
> fact that packages can rely on some environment variables being set to
> some values.
>
> >
wer to
migrate to, but it seems to me to have the advantage of being the most
flexible.
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we're just rehashing the same old nonsense.
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would need to be worked out with the ftpteam people. It's just that I
get sad every time I see needless duplication of information in
databases :)
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This one time, at band camp, Josselin Mouette said:
> Le dimanche 11 janvier 2009 à 12:07 +0000, Stephen Gran a écrit :
> > I have no idea for:
> > pm-utils: ?
>
> You need to ship a script in /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d. The format is
> very simple, just look at the exis
all welcome.
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great to have it in the archive.
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ant with computers.
You understand that arguing that computer science is not currently
predominantly male because there are notable women in the field is not
just wrong, but patently silly, right?
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say 'but the release team does have the authority to downgrade these bug
reports if they need to'. Unless I've missed something and we're
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g it. It
just means they're not talking to you.
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This one time, at band camp, Manoj Srivastava said:
> On Tue, Sep 16 2008, Stephen Gran wrote:
> > This is a sid install of the default policy in non-enforcing mode. I
> > can't guarantee that every one of those complaints would have
> > generated errors that matter
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