On Martes, 7 de mayo de 2013 22:55:39 Matt Zagrabelny wrote:
> Hello world,
>
> I've grepped the d-d list, but didn't find any threads regarding
> fixing epochs in package versions.
>
> First, is there a consensus or quorum that believes that unnecessary
> epochs is undesirable?
>
> If so, could
On Martes, 7 de mayo de 2013 17:26:09 Simon Chopin wrote:
> Quoting Jonathan Dowland (2013-05-07 18:15:46)
>
> > This has been discussed many times on -devel, including before you became
> > a DD.
>
> Please don't assume that only DDs read debian-devel. I would think that
> most aspiring DDs were
On Lunes, 6 de mayo de 2013 13:49:57 Andreas Beckmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> now might be the right time to start a discussion about release goals
> for jessie. Here are some points that come into my mind right now (and
> some were already discussed very recently):
>
> * multiarch compatible binNMUs
>
> > > Find someone (preferably a team) to be the maintainers, prepare a
> > > suitable package, get someone to sponsor it, and reopen all the
> > > bugs which were closed by the removal.
I volunteer to help with the packaging work. I'm not a Debian Developer, so we
would need sponsors anyway, but
Have you all minded that there are several *different* use cases?
* Laptop user going here and there, sometimes with Wireless, sometimes with
cable, sometimes with USB stick
* Desktop user with home ADSL
* Server with several connections
Each use case has its own needs, and its own best tools.
On Miércoles, 18 de julio de 2012 21:46:05 Michael Biebl wrote:
> On 18.07.2012 22:32, Wookey wrote:
> > wicd is easy to disable as it has a ENABLE/DISABLE option in
> > /etc/defaults. N-M doesn't so you either have to remove it properly or
> > resort to nobbling the init script.
>
> Nope, you don
On Sábado, 14 de julio de 2012 09:10:03 Martin Wagner wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Got the same problem. Got rid of it by going to Gnome System Settings ->
> Keyboard -> Shortcuts -> Screenshots and just re-assigning the already
> assigned shortcuts (or assigning different ones as I like to have my
> screensh
Thanks to the advice of a good man, I'll try to resume my point of view to
avoid repeating once and again.
First, I find ground on our Policy:
> Recommends
>
> This declares a strong, but not absolute, dependency.
>
> The Recommends field should list packages that would be found togeth
On Viernes, 13 de julio de 2012 09:38:45 Gergely Nagy wrote:
> Miles Bader writes:
> > Gergely Nagy writes:
> >> if upstream considers a package a core part of a platform,
> >> recommends *is* wrong.
> >
> > Er, no.
> >
> > Upstreams are not infallible, and are often quite fallible...
> >
> >
On Viernes, 13 de julio de 2012 08:38:47 Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
> Miles Bader writes:
> > issues with NM: it doesn't seem to be tested with much in the way of
> > non-standard setups
>
> My personal feeling is that this happens because people who use
> non-standard setups usually start by p
On Viernes, 13 de julio de 2012 08:09:58 Gergely Nagy wrote:
> Gergely Nagy writes:
> >> Please don't forget that a Recommends will pull in packages in all but
> >> unusual installations :)
> >
> > But also keep in mind, that once a package is installed, adding new
> > recommends will not pull th
On Viernes, 13 de julio de 2012 08:05:10 Gergely Nagy wrote:
[...]
> On one hand, you have, in the depends case:
>
> # apt-get remove gstreamer-plugins-good
>
> Which will try to remove the whole world, including the meta, and that
> will ring alarm bells.
>
> Or in the recommends case:
>
> # a
On Viernes, 13 de julio de 2012 07:33:09 Gergely Nagy wrote:
[...]
> I *hate* doing things manually, that's why I'm using a bloody high-level
> package manager. If it forces me to double-guess it, check a lot of
> things during upgrades, I might aswell go back to downloading packages
> by hand and
[...]
> >> The amount of extra work necessary is minimal though.
> >
> > Not so minimal if you want your gnome set to be up to date, including new
> > applications being installed.
>
> It is very minimal. 5 minutes of work. Been there, done that, posted the
> bulk of the solution, and a general o
[...]
> > > "essential parts of what the upstream GNOME project has to offer" - as
> > > its package description also clearly reflects.
> >
> > And NM is not essential in my point of view
>
> Your view is irrelevant here: GNOME project considers it essential.
Gnome view is the one irrelevant. Th
> > Installing N-M breaks unrelated software.
>
> That is a bug in network-manager, not in gnome-core.
>
> That bug is not fixed nor worked around by making it easier to avoid the
> broken package.
>
No. It is not a broken package. It does what it is designed to do. The bug is
having it as a De
> Yet, we try to not diverge much from upstream, and maintain a good
> relationship with them. If they consider it core, so can we. Those who
> want to hand-pick parts of a meta package, can do so, we do not forbid.
If we want to be user friendly, it is not a matter of "we do not forbid", it
is a
> I still (as previously mentioned) believe that you really should focus
> on gnome-session instead, if you feel gnome-core is too invasive when it
> insist on installing certain image viewer, web browser, video player and
> "other tools" (which includes a certain network manager).
>
Installing an
> Some argue that meta-packages can have a different purpose, and some
> argue that recommending also to some (lesser) extend ensures
> installation of packages. None of that, however, changes the fact that
> _this_ meta-package _now_ has the feature of strictly ensuring a certain
> set of package
> "Eugene V. Lyubimkin" writes:
[...]
>
> Well, in case of GNOME, upstream considers n-m to be part of the core
> system, to the best of my knowledge. If upstream does so, so should we.
No. That's why we have our own distribution instead of just a collection of
unpatched packages compiled from
> "Eugene V. Lyubimkin" writes:
[...]
> "Recommends
>
> This declares a strong, but not absolute, dependency.
>
> The Recommends field should list packages that would be found together
> with this one in all but unusual installations."
...packages that would be found together with this one i
> WHOOPS, SORRY. Meant to delete this old draft, not send it.
> The issue is valid, but sorry for incomplete mail.
>
> On Sun, Jul 08, 2012 at 04:48:01PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 10:23:38AM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 12:38:42PM +0200, S
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:18:32 +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 10:54:53 (CEST), Roger Leigh wrote:
> > > As of base-files 6.2 which went into unstable yesterday, we have a
> > > new top-level directory, /run.
> > >
> > > This directory will contain a tmpfs which will
On Viernes 18 Febrero 2011 18:44:25 Ron Johnson escribió:
> On 02/18/2011 07:26 AM, Noel David Torres Taño wrote:
> > On Jueves 17 Febrero 2011 22:18:25 Ron Johnson escribió:
> >> On 02/17/2011 08:58 AM, Roger Leigh wrote:
> >> [snip]
> >>
> >
On Jueves 17 Febrero 2011 22:18:25 Ron Johnson escribió:
> On 02/17/2011 08:58 AM, Roger Leigh wrote:
> [snip]
>
> > Should it be locked down like Fort Knox?
>
> There's a heck of a lot of middle ground between "Fort Knox" and
> "Hippy Commune".
We are not a hippy comune, just two married people
Hello all:
Finally I've found the needed info. Mr. Akarsh Simha from KStars have said me:
> Hi Noel, and others,
>
> I got an almost immediate reply from Jason regarding this stuff. While
> the site that I linked to is down, the WayBack Machine shows that we
> were indeed compliant with the poli
On Lunes 20 Septiembre 2010 21:58:41 Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña escribió:
[...]
>
> Please confirm with them that this *derived* data from the Tycho-2 can be
> indeed GPL-licensed. I would be very surprised if this is the case (I've
> had contact with some producers of star data catalogues in
On Domingo 19 Septiembre 2010 13:03:04 Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
escribió:
> Hi,
>
> First of all, please first note there is an informal policy for Stars data
> catalogues which is available in the 'stardata-common' package (more info
> at http://alioth.debian.org/projects/stardata-common/)
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Noel David Torres Taño"
Actually kstars offer each user to download some data, from the net, which
causes bandwith and disk waste (See #596007). I will package one of those
datafiles (one of the catalogs) to avoid that, and I want to p
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