Bug#537206: ITP: ctcs -- hardware testing/burnin suite

2009-07-15 Thread Matthew Palmer
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Matthew Palmer * Package name: ctcs Version : 1.3.1pre1 Upstream Author : Jason T. Collins * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/va-ctcs/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : hardware testing

Re: dpkg doing wrong math (0.09 = 0.9) ?- [was: dak now supports ~ in version numbers]

2006-08-10 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 08:47:14PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 10:42:53AM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > > > I'd imagine you'd be hard pressed to find a mathematician who knows what to > > do with a number that reads 0.0.9, eit

Re: dpkg doing wrong math (0.09 = 0.9) ?- [was: dak now supports ~ in version numbers]

2006-08-10 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 07:47:36PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 01:29:40AM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote: > > * Michael Biebl [Fri, 11 Aug 2006 01:12:59 +0200]: > > > > > that "dpkg --compare-versions '0.09' '=' '0.9'" yields true, which I > > > think is rather odd, beca

Re: dpkg doing wrong math (0.09 = 0.9) ?- [was: dak now supports ~ in version numbers]

2006-08-10 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 01:12:59AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > I have to admit that when choosing 0.09+0.1 as version number I didn't > check with dpkg --compare-versions because then I would have discovered > that "dpkg --compare-versions '0.09' '=' '0.9'" yields true, which I > think is rather

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-09 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Aug 09, 2006 at 08:14:43PM +, David Nusinow wrote: > On Wed, Aug 09, 2006 at 11:12:15AM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > What I need as someone working on a package for which I'm not the > > maintainer is this: > > > > dpkg-source -x must give me something I can immediately edit and diff

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-06 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Aug 06, 2006 at 01:52:09PM +0100, Darren Salt wrote: > I demand that Matthew Palmer may or may not have written... > > > I've given up on this thread, but I just have to say one thing: > > > On Sat, Aug 05, 2006 at 11:38:39AM +0300, George Danchev wrote: >

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-05 Thread Matthew Palmer
I've given up on this thread, but I just have to say one thing: On Sat, Aug 05, 2006 at 11:38:39AM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > `Hate patch systems' can easily apply all chunks and start BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Easily. Heh. You should be a comedian. - Matt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 02:08:00AM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > On Thursday 03 August 2006 00:45, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 08:47:01PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > > > On Wednesday 02 August 2006 20:11, Otavio Salvador wrote: > > > >

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 08:36:18PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > #include > * John Goerzen [Wed, Aug 02 2006, 01:01:51PM]: > > On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 08:47:01PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > > > > to learn how we deal with this all. > > > > > > This is fine, but (again) you forget about your 'ap

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 08:47:01PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > On Wednesday 02 August 2006 20:11, Otavio Salvador wrote: > > Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > George Danchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> > But you lose debian specific patches to be clearly separated from the >

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 06:54:51PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > On Wednesday 02 August 2006 18:35, John Goerzen wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 06:01:27PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > > > > > How is that not true if one knows a given patch system and does know > > > > > about your VCS and ne

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 06:31:18PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think people that are NMUing packages rarely care about this. > > When NMU'ing a package, I'd really appreciate to know which changes have > which purpose and which "specificity". In part

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 06:01:27PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > On Wednesday 02 August 2006 17:31, John Goerzen wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 05:20:26PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > > > debian/patches/ as separate file, how do I know how to update/remove/etc > > > > There would be no debia

Re: Bug#380468: ITP: phpunit2 -- Unit testing suite for PHP5

2006-07-30 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Jul 30, 2006 at 02:40:47PM +0200, Bart Martens wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Bart Martens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * Package name: phpunit2 *cough*330301*cough* - Matt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Con

Re: A question on setting setuid bit

2006-07-06 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 11:13:30AM +0200, Thibaut Paumard wrote: > Le jeudi 06 juillet 2006 à 07:36 +1000, Matthew Palmer a écrit : > [about suid bits] > > My personal preference would be for the maintainer to just take a stand, set > > it or not, and let people who actually kn

Re: A question on setting setuid bit

2006-07-05 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 09:36:37AM +0100, Steve Kemp wrote: > On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 08:37:52PM -0400, LEE, Yui-wah (Clement) wrote: > > > I am building a package in which one of the binary has > > to have the setuid and setgid bits set. I wonder which > > one of the following two is the more ap

Re: A question on setting setuid bit

2006-07-04 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 07:34:02AM +0200, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote: > On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 08:37:52PM -0400, LEE, Yui-wah (Clement) wrote: > > I am building a package in which one of the binary has > > to have the setuid and setgid bits set. I wonder which > > one of the following two is

Re: ITP: openwatcom -- C/C++ compiler and IDE that produce efficient, portable code

2006-07-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Jul 02, 2006 at 06:50:07PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Adam Borowski wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 02, 2006 at 06:17:20PM -0400, Jason Spiro wrote: > [snip] > > the moment you use openwatcom to compile any work-related piece > > of software (thu

Re: RFC: transitioning towards using BTS versioning for NMUs (and experimental)

2006-06-20 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 12:44:40PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > "Steinar H. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >[Don suggested to use the tags _and_ the versioning information in a > >transitional period; I'm not 100% sure what this buys us, except that I'm > >not sure

Re: SQL Ledger and PostgreSQL: ID fault on create database

2006-06-15 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 10:12:32PM +0100, Chris Forsey wrote: > Not sure if this is the right list, but unsure where to post as I need > some guys with good debian experience [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], for starters. This list is for development of Debian itself. - M

Re: [Fwd: Re: RFC: Better portability for package maintainers]

2006-05-21 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 11:30:59PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le samedi 20 mai 2006 à 19:43 -0700, Erast Benson a écrit : > > Nexenta is absolutely rock stable OS (thanks to legendary Solaris > > history) > > Solaris history is indeed legendary, but not for its stability. Well, when you con

Re: Creation of custom

2006-05-15 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 10:47:48AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Am 15.05.2006 um 10:32 Uhr haben Sie geschrieben: > > CFEngine is in Debian, but has some real nasty frustrations. Puppet > > isn't in Debian, but Jamie is working hard on the packages and I've got > > some provisional ones built

Re: Creation of custom "configured" packages?

2006-05-15 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 09:49:00AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > in case I am in the wrong list, I beg you pardon, but I asked this > already in debian-user without success. Custom *packages* is probably more on-topic for debian-mentors, but I don't think that custom packages are the right sol

Re: per-architecture Provides field

2006-04-13 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 12:13:57AM -0700, Erast Benson wrote: > On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 00:04 +0200, Loïc Minier wrote: > > Why not simply Provide: sunwlxsl all of the > > time, doesn't it provide sunwlxsl on other arches? > > But how? sunwlxsl is something which is only present in > OpenSolaris-b

Re: Proper way of closing *old* bugs

2006-04-08 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, Apr 08, 2006 at 05:55:05PM -0500, Adam Majer wrote: > Cyril Bouthors wrote: > > On 3 Apr 2006, Adam Majer wrote: > > > > > >> But the correct method of closing bugs is to send a message to > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the explanation of the fix and not in > >> the changelog. Well, at lea

Re: buildd and experimental

2006-02-28 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 02:46:02AM +0100, Gabor Gombas wrote: > On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 01:04:17AM +, Brian M. Carlson wrote: > > However, the code of conduct seems to > > point out that one should not Cc someone unless they specifically ask > > for it (a guideline that you neglected to follow,

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-30 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 11:03:03AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le lundi 30 janvier 2006 à 10:20 +1100, Matthew Palmer a écrit : > > On Sun, Jan 29, 2006 at 02:58:05PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > > There have already been - admittedly sporadic - proposals to rewrite &g

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-29 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Jan 29, 2006 at 04:17:13AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le samedi 28 janvier 2006 à 17:01 -0600, Peter Samuelson a écrit : > > [Josselin Mouette] > > > Because python and ruby have similar features > > > > Same with perl and python. > > Great. I guess you're going to second the upcomi

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-29 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Jan 29, 2006 at 02:58:05PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > There have already been - admittedly sporadic - proposals to rewrite > some key parts of the system, like the init scripts or adduser, in > python. However, if the proponent knows from the beginning the > implementation wouldn't be

Re: For those who care about their packages in Ubuntu

2006-01-23 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 05:33:33PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sunday 22 January 2006 03:16, David Weinehall wrote: > > > Since all Ubuntu packages are recompiled against a different set of > > libraries, the bug might not even affect the Debian package, even though > > they share the same sou

Re: For those who care about their packages in Ubuntu

2006-01-20 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 01:40:11PM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 08:31:44AM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > All you'll get is the loud minority having a whinge then, no matter what the > > outcome. > > It will certainly beat the hell out of c

Re: For those who care about their packages in Ubuntu

2006-01-20 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 12:41:49PM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 07:13:31AM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 09:20:33AM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > > By way of example, the Debian maintainer is equipped to answer questions

Re: For those who care about their packages in Ubuntu

2006-01-20 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 09:20:33AM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 07:08:38PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > I keep hearing this, but I really don't believe it. In Debian, "Maintainer" > > means "An individual or group of people primari

Re: klik, loop mounts, and insecurity [was: statement from one of the klik project members]

2006-01-20 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 03:59:23PM +, Kurt Pfeifle wrote: > Wouter Verhelst wrote on debian-devel@lists.debian.org: > > [Re-adding Cc to Kurt, as he's mentioned he isn't subscribed] > > > > On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 01:20:26PM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote: > > > Kurt Pfeifle wrote: > > > > The kl

Re: For those who care about their packages in Ubuntu

2006-01-20 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 12:10:54AM +0100, JanC wrote: > On 1/17/06, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How about renaming Maintainer to Debian-Maintainer in Ubuntu's binary > > packages, and having a specific Ubuntu-Maintainer? > > This should probably happen in a way that all (or most

Re: [ad-hominem construct deleted]

2006-01-18 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 12:30:22PM +0200, Riku Voipio wrote: > On Wednesday 18 January 2006 11:01, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > > So you are saying it's the Debian Developer's job to pull changes from > > ubuntu back? If that is an official statement, then that would be useful > > for a d-d-a mail so w

Re: For those who care about their packages in Ubuntu

2006-01-16 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 08:51:12AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hello Joey, > > On Sun, 15 Jan 2006, Joey Hess wrote: > > Leaving ubuntu out of this, what puzzles me about your message, Raphael, > > is this: > > > > Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > If you have some uploads pending, and would like

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-15 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 08:21:20AM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > And on _top_ of that, we have all sorts of gratuitous autotools > changes. Let's not forget the random conversion of build systems -- dpatch seems to be a favourite to rewrite perfectly functioning build systems into. > This is roug

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-13 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 01:14:18PM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > Some things that it does say: [...] > - Ubuntu submits fixes for Debian bugs to the Debian BTS including a patch > URL If that said "sometimes" or "some people within Ubuntu", it would be correct. Not every relevant patch ends

Re: Dissection of an Ubuntu PR message

2006-01-13 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 03:03:14PM -0200, Gustavo Franco wrote: > On 1/13/06, Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Please stop trying to twist my words around. Canonical didn't contribute > > > back. An individual who happened to work for

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-08 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 11:44:57AM +0100, Stephan Hermann wrote: > On Sunday 08 January 2006 10:39, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 07:49:33PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > > On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 09:02:09AM +0100, Stephan Hermann wrote: > > > >

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-08 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 04:47:56PM +, Martin Meredith wrote: > Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 15:19:42 -0500, Frans Jessop > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >>Ubuntu's launchpad is amazing. Do you think it would be helpful if > >>all DD's worked through it on their projects? >

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-08 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 11:25:28AM +0100, Stephan Hermann wrote: > On Sunday 08 January 2006 09:49, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 09:02:09AM +0100, Stephan Hermann wrote: > > > On Sunday 08 January 2006 07:27, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > > > On F

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-08 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 04:48:11PM +0100, Stephan Hermann wrote: > On Sunday 08 January 2006 14:32, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 11:25:28AM +0100, Stephan Hermann wrote: > > > Oh, I never signed an NDA, so I've never seen the code, actually I'm not > > > interested in the code,

Re: packaging problem - no binary

2006-01-08 Thread Matthew Palmer
[This is probably more appropriate for the debian-mentors list] On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 05:47:32PM +0100, Daniel Knabl wrote: > |dh_gencontrol > |dpkg-gencontrol -ldebian/changelog -isp > |-Tdebian/vexim.substvars -Pdebian/vexim dpkg-gencontrol: error: control > |file must have at least on

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-08 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 09:02:09AM +0100, Stephan Hermann wrote: > On Sunday 08 January 2006 07:27, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 03:19:42PM -0500, Frans Jessop wrote: > > > Ubuntu's launchpad is amazing. Do you think it would be helpful if all > > > DD's worked through it on

Re: Bug#344081: ITP: xen-debiantools -- Tools to manage debian XEN virtual servers

2005-12-19 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 11:54:26PM +0200, Radu Spineanu wrote: > * Package name: xen-debiantools > Version : 0.2 > Upstream Author : Steve Kemp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Considering the upstream author, have you discussed your plans to upload this with Steve? - Matt signature.asc Desc

Re: xmcd

2005-12-17 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 08:37:28PM +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > does one know why xmcd isn't upgraded since 31 of May in 2003? The > package is neither orphaned nor up for adoption, which I would do > then. Have you asked the maintainer, Adrian Bridgett? He's around (last made an upload les

Re: Automatic closing of bugs

2005-12-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 02:22:41PM +0100, Simon Richter wrote: > Matthew Palmer wrote: > > >Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is dig through the Perl code > >in merkel:/org/bugs.debian.org/scripts and work out how to add this > >functionality. > >

Re: Automatic closing of bugs

2005-12-01 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 05:45:53PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > I just had a bug that I opened (#339832) closed by a changelog entry in > a new debconf upload. This is apparently a typo, as the changelog entry > claims that the bug it was closing was related to a Swedish translation > update

Re: dpkg-sig support wanted?

2005-11-25 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Nov 25, 2005 at 03:22:37PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > A signature in the deb by a random developer is as trustworthy as the > changes file and you already trust that. So we are going from snakeoil > to snakoil. No harm done. It's not the same, actually. A signature in a .deb nee

Re: dpkg-sig support wanted?

2005-11-24 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 11:38:45AM -, Adam D. Barratt wrote: > On Thursday, November 24, 2005 11:17 AM, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 02:11:45PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: > [...] > >> On that score, the d

Re: dpkg-sig support wanted?

2005-11-23 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 03:48:15PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 02:31:22PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > I think the final judgment in this issue is going to come down to personal > > taste and needs more than anything else. > > That's fine

Re: dpkg-sig support wanted?

2005-11-23 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 12:30:37PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 09:09:21AM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > 3) I can verify the provenance of a particular package in my own custom > > repos at any time (did that come from Debian? Did someone build it

Re: dpkg-sig support wanted?

2005-11-23 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 11:54:33AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 04:37:05PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Nov 2005, Anthony Towns wrote: > > > Personally, I think it's cryptographic snake oil, at least in so far > > A signed deb has a seal of proce

Re: dpkg-sig support wanted?

2005-11-23 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 02:08:17AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 11:33:47AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Marc Brockschmidt: > > > Today (or last night, whatever), the dak installation on ftp-master was > > > changed to not accept packages that include more than 3 parts

Re: dpkg-sig support wanted?

2005-11-22 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 10:29:32AM +1100, Brian May wrote: > I would speculate debsigs got a name change to dpkg-sig. Can somebody > confirm or deny? As Mark said, it's not a name change. The FAQ on the dpkg-sig site (http://dpkg-sig.turmzimmer.net/) has more info. - Matt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

Re: dpkg-sig support wanted?

2005-11-22 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 04:50:02PM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > As I'm responsible for most of dpkg-sig's code (and planned to do some > more work in the next two months) I'd like to know if anyone cares about > using these binary signatures or if I can invest my time into something > tha

Re: Request: Source for parts of GNU/Solaris

2005-11-07 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 07:35:11PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 04:48:52PM -0800, Erast Benson wrote: > > > this URL also does _neither_ offer access to the apt > > > (0.6.40.1-1.1) nor your patched debhelper (4.9.3elatte) as requested in my > > > other mail. > > > I'm

Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program

2005-11-03 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 01:31:08PM -0800, Erast Benson wrote: > On Thu, 2005-11-03 at 22:19 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > > Or, *freedoms*. If a hardware vendor wants to profit from Linux users, > > they need to lift the limitations on the access to knowledge about their > > wares. > > Please w

Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program

2005-11-03 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 11:51:31AM -0800, Erast Benson wrote: > The great thing about CDDL is that it is file based. So, all files which > are licensed under CDDL-terms works exactly as GPL does. i.e. any change > made by anybody (including propriatery distributors) *must* be contributed > back to

Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program

2005-11-03 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 08:45:52AM -0800, Erast Benson wrote: > On Thu, 2005-11-03 at 15:51 +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > Erast Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > (a) to ship packaged OpenSolaris core on "main" CD, and the rest of > > > GPL-filtered software, will go on "Companion" CD

Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program

2005-11-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 10:52:07PM -0800, Erast Benson wrote: > On Wed, 2005-11-02 at 21:25 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > Alex Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > The issue... what issue? The http://www.sun.com/gnome issue? The > > > numerous-our-examples issue? > > > > Of course,

Re: [Fwd: Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program]

2005-11-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 06:31:00PM -0800, Erast Benson wrote: > On Thu, 2005-11-03 at 01:14 +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > Alex Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Michael Banck wrote: > > >> If so, do you plan to use Debian's mailing lists and bug > > >> tracking system for development? > > >

Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program

2005-11-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 06:21:12PM -0800, Erast Benson wrote: > read some more GPL vs. CDDL legality stuff on our web site at > http://www.gnusolaris.org/gswiki/GNU/Solaris_Resources Authorization Required This server could not verify that you are authorized to access the document requested. Eith

Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program

2005-11-01 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 09:32:49PM -0700, Alejandro Bonilla Beeche wrote: > I don't know if Alex works for Sun, but in anyway, he has the freedom > and option to express himself as he wishes. Your comments, only bring FUD. So I do *not* have the freedom and option to express myself as I wish? Int

Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program

2005-11-01 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 09:07:08PM -0800, Erast Benson wrote: > On Wed, 2005-11-02 at 14:24 +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 06:21:45PM -0800, Alex Ross wrote: > > > 2) 2,300 Debian packages available for immediate usage. > > > > [...] >

Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program

2005-11-01 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 06:21:45PM -0800, Alex Ross wrote: > 2) 2,300 Debian packages available for immediate usage. [...] > There are probably very few projects that can come anywhere close to > Nexenta OS, > in terms of the size, 2300 << 15000, by my reckoning. > and openness. You keep usin

Re: /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib etc. in various packages [bug 336698]

2005-10-31 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 12:19:07AM +, Darren Salt wrote: > I've noticed that several files which should be in /usr/lib/debug are in fact > in /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib. Checking via packages.d.o shows that as well as > this, debug data is showing up in /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin and > /usr/lib/debug/l

Re: [Fwd: major problem with gnome-games dependency]

2005-10-11 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 03:13:30AM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote: > [CC'ing the aptitude maintainer, mainly for the last paragraph.] > > * Jeroen van Wolffelaar [Tue, 11 Oct 2005 22:00:22 +0200]: > > > The main things that this thread shows me, is that it is *not* immediately > > clear to people n

Re: Creating Debian packages

2005-10-05 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 05:48:34PM +0200, Thomas Jollans wrote: > What documentation is available on the subject of creating debian > packages ? What documents should I read before starting ? And before > applying for NM ? I'm especially interested, for the beginning, in a > comprehensive HowTo

Re: init.d script for iptables ruleset

2005-09-20 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 01:12:38AM -, Samuel Jean wrote: > Here it goes. I wondered about a clever way to load my iptables ruleset via > init.d's script. Surprisingly, I didn't find any with Debian. I didn't search > that much though. Have a look at Shorewall -- it does similar things to what

Re: Using buildds only (was: Results of the meeting...)

2005-08-22 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 10:45:58AM +0200, W. Borgert wrote: > Quoting Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > All packages should be built by official debian buildds anyway, not on > > developper machines with random cruft and unsecure packages installed, or > > even > > possibly experimental or home-

Re: Bug#323855: ITP: opencvs -- OpenBSD CVS implementation with special emphasis in security

2005-08-21 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Aug 21, 2005 at 07:01:37PM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: > On Saturday 20 August 2005 02:20 pm, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > How does their extensive use of it explain why they would reimplement > > it? > > Is there anyone who's used CVS extensively and HASN'T thought about > reimpleme

Re: Bug#323855: ITP: opencvs -- OpenBSD CVS implementation with special emphasis in security

2005-08-21 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Aug 21, 2005 at 10:05:43PM +1200, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On 8/19/05, Steinar H. Gunderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'd love to see people migrating to Arch > > Being a long-time Arch user, let me tell you that Arch has been > orphaned upstream. Correction: tla, an Arch frontend, h

Re: arch, svn, cvs

2005-08-20 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, Aug 20, 2005 at 03:17:35PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > like a foundation already: a bad release manager chose a pyramidal > model. That's the beginnings of a good inductive argument. Then we > add the other foundation he gives: here's a bunch of well-managed > projects, which use

Re: Intermediate Web Development on Debian

2005-08-16 Thread Matthew Palmer
[This list is typically for discussion related to the development of Debian, not development on Debian. Nonetheless...] On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 04:11:45PM -0400, Parker, Matthew wrote: > -- Technology Requirements -- > > * Relatively quick development time > > * Linux-based > > * Allow for aut

Bug#320855: RFA: cyrus-imapd

2005-08-01 Thread Matthew Palmer
Package: wnpp Severity: normal (Note that this is the obsolete 1.5.x series of cyrus-imapd, not the current 2.1 cyrus packages!) As I'm transitioning all servers under my care away from cyrus-imapd 1.5, I have little to no further interest in maintaining these packages. I would only recommend so

Re: apt 0.6 downloads from second archive?

2005-07-21 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 07:12:29AM +1000, Graham Williams wrote: > Since installing apt 0.6 on an otherwise up-to-date unstable (except > for anything depending on the aspell libraries...) packages on my > local archive are being overlooked even though this archive is listed > before others in my a

Re: debian mentors & ubuntu

2005-07-19 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 09:34:28AM -0400, David Nusinow wrote: > On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 03:14:32PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > > also sprach David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.07.19.1507 +0200]: > > > It's rather pathetic that the Debian mentors site doesn't run the > > > operating > > >

Re: debian mentors & ubuntu

2005-07-19 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 11:06:28PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > Unrelated question: why was mentors.debian.net delegated (historically) > to non-DDs? Because those were the people that decided they wanted the service, and dedicated the time to getting it (and keeping it) operational? - Matt s

Re: debian mentors & ubuntu

2005-07-19 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 12:21:09PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: > why is mentors.debian.net powered by Ubuntu? Why is this question on debian-devel, instead of in the inbox of the m.d.n maintainers? - Matt signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: BTS version tracking

2005-07-19 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 12:06:29PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > A frequently requested feature for the bug tracking system in recent years > has been the ability to track which bugs apply to which distributions, > so that, eg, maintainers and others can tell which bugs that have been > fixed in uns

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-17 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 01:54:48PM -0400, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: > Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:42:44 +0200, Nico Golde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > What's with the recent push to get every little things written > >down into policy, so the developer no longer is req

Re: interacting with the press

2005-07-15 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 08:12:36PM +1200, Nigel Jones wrote: > On 15/07/05, Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 11:11:49AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > > > * Anand Kumria: > > > > > > > [1]: > > > http://smh

Re: Bug#318204: ITP: php-simpletest -- Unit testing and web testing framework for PHP

2005-07-14 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 08:48:44PM -0400, Charles Fry wrote: > * License : The Open Group Test Suite License I'm not optimistic about this licence being DFSG-free. - Matt signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: interacting with the press

2005-07-14 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 11:11:49AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Anand Kumria: > > > [1]: > http://smh.com.au/news/breaking/debian-debates-support-for-ports/2005/07/12/1120934228145.html> > > Apparently, this is subscription only. 8-( > > Has this article been republished by another newspape

Re: Greylisting for @debian.org email, please

2005-06-18 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, Jun 18, 2005 at 02:33:49PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes: > > > Stop sending mail from dynamically-assigned IP addresses. Deal. > > Gee. There is no reliable way to know whether an IP address is static > or not. SMTP is supposed to work from

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-08 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 01:13:16AM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > to find their own (sometimes flawed) solution to a very common problem. Years using Linux: 10. Times I've absolutely needed an X-less boot when an XDM was installed: 0. How common was that problem you were trying

Re: Is Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis MIA?

2005-06-08 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 11:48:49AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > I do not know why you doubt that Luca will come back but as far as I know > him from conferences I'm pretty sure that his main interest were good > quality Debian packages Recalling his packages in the past, I get a different opinion

Re: Arch-specific bugs [was: Canonical and Debian]

2005-06-08 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 05:11:05PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mardi 07 juin 2005 à 02:12 -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit : > > Oh, you'll also note that the traditional "slow" architectures (mips, > > mipsel, m68k, arm) aren't on this "problems" list. That's because a *lot* > > of effort ha

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

2005-06-08 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 09:19:06AM -0700, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > The fact is that Ubuntu has proactively contributed a lot of code back to > Debian, much more than most Debian derivatives have. I see no reason why > claims that Ubuntu is not doing _enough_, or making it easy _enough_ for > Debian

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-08 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 10:31:33AM +0200, Jesus Climent wrote: > > > - Separate runlevels: 2 for multi, no net, 3 for multi no X, 4 for X, 4=5 > > > > No way. Debian has always avoided mindlessly dictating what runlevels > > must be used for. There's no reason to destroy this feature now. And > >

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-08 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 10:23:06AM +0200, Jesus Climent wrote: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 09:21:37PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > This solves your problem fairly well, since the issue then becomes only > > keeping d-i secure and keeping the installed system secure, not keeping > > the system secure w

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

2005-06-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 08:07:33AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > * John Goerzen > > | If it matters, I'll add my voice to the chorus on that. Anything that > | requires me to go off to the net to fix takes longer to fix and is > | more annoying to deal with. > > Well, some people like just ha

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

2005-06-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 03:56:18PM -0700, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 07:49:39AM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 12:47:30AM -0700, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > > proposals, but we have very limited developer resources compared to > &

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

2005-06-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 11:26:58PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > That said, I was informed today that there's a policy that when bugs are > submitted the patch has to be put on people.ubuntu.com and linked to in > the report rather than being included in the report, which did strike me > as rather str

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

2005-06-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 12:47:30AM -0700, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > The same logic applies to many bugs as well. Would it really be better to > have an open bug report in debbugs, than a patch on people.ubuntu.com? I'd prefer an open bug report in debbugs with the patch included. > I know of no re

Re: FW: Processing of tla-load-dirs_1.0.21ubuntu1_source.changes

2005-05-24 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, May 22, 2005 at 03:56:35PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > Can anyone tell me what this means, and who is trying to upload this to > Debian without even sending me a patch first? What it means: the Ubuntu maintainer for tla-load-dirs (sorry, don't know who) managed to send their package in th

Re: transcode

2005-05-03 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 04:36:30PM -0700, Jeff Carr wrote: > PS: of interest to the mplayer thread: motion.c allows mpeg-1 & mpeg-2 > support for non-commercial software. AKA: GPL/LGPL'd implementations are > allowed. No, GPL/LGPL is not non-commercial. - Matt signature.asc Description: Digit

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