Re: multi-tarball packages in version control

On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 09:57:16AM +0100, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > The only problem is that svn-buildpackage does not support this. Or > rather: it should have, but a long standing bug (with a partial fix > attached to it, to which the maintainer did not comment. But since > uploaded one or two versi

Re: packaging with git: automatic setup of remotes/upstream when cloning

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Re: Bug#700506: ITP: trinity -- A Linux System call fuzz tester

On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 11:37:03AM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: > The chances of Trinity, the desktop environment, being packaged in Debian are > very low. That may be the case, but it may still confuse users regardless. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: Go (golang) packaging, part 2

On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 09:23:02AM +, Neil Williams wrote: > Then don't package Go at all and leave it entirely outside the realm of dpkg > - no dependencies allowed in either direction, no files created outside > /usr/local for any reason, no contamination of the apt or dpkg cache data. If > w

Re: Go (golang) packaging, part 2

On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 04:02:18PM -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > For cpan there is even dh-make-perl. The solution then is to make > equivelant scripts for other languages. The solution is NOT to use some > other package installation system. Although I've never used dh-make-perl myself, I'm l

Re: Go (golang) packaging, part 2

On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 12:38:16PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Using Debian packages is a *means*, not an *end*. Sometimes in these > discussions I think people lose sight of the fact that, at the end of the > day, the goal is not to construct an elegantly consistent system composed > of theoreti

Re: Go (golang) packaging, part 2

On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 03:20:08PM -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 10:00:32AM +0000, Jon Dowland wrote: > > As a Haskell developer, I find cabal much more convenient than nothing, > > in the situation where the library I want is not packaged by Debian yet. &

Re: Go (golang) packaging, part 2

On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 01:27:05PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > "Lennart Sorensen" writes: > > Not all C libraries are distributed from one central site and they > > certainly don't expect you to use a central package installation system. > > So much more the shame for C. Those are *improvements

Re: Go (golang) packaging, part 2

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 06:46:35PM -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > Absolutely. As a user I have a nice package management system that I > know how to use and which works well. I don't need another one. As a Haskell developer, I find cabal much more convenient than nothing, in the situation wher

Bug#699158: ITP: squishyball -- audio sample comparison testing tool

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jon Dowland * Package name: squishyball Version : 0.1~svn18785 Upstream Author : Monty * URL : http://svn.xiph.org/trunk/squishyball/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : audio sample comparison

Re: Linux Future

On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:46:33AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > You might find this useful: > http://np237.livejournal.com/33449.html > > I made this presentation in the hope to make such things easier to > understand for the sysadmin. Just for the record I found it a good read, and mentally

Re: Bug#696006: ITP: tinyos -- operating system for sensor motes and embedded devices

Hi - we have/had some modules here at Newcastle University using TinyOS and having it available in Debian may make it easier for us to deliver the teaching in future. Thanks! -- I pledge not to post to any systemd-related thread on -devel until (at least) 2013. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debi

Re: Bug#695897: ITP: corekeeper -- Core file centralizer and reaper

These have been forcemerged. -- I pledge not to post to any systemd-related thread on -devel until (at least) 2013. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2

Re: GFDL in main

On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 01:04:22AM +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote: > * Jakub Wilk , 2012-12-01, 12:10: > >Any volunteers to file bugs? > > I'll file them myself. Please collect them together with a usertag to help others who may wish to get involved. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@l

Re: dput-ng/1.1 in unstable

On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 01:02:29PM +0100, Arno Töll wrote: > Hint: gpg --list-keys --with-colons --keyring > /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg --no-default-keyring No need, I have 'keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg' in my ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf. > Not sure though, why nion is listed

Re: dput-ng/1.1 in unstable

On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 09:53:41AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > Anything less than the full fingerprint (8, 7 or whatever) I hadn't noticed that 0xFEFACED was only 7 characters. That's cheating ☺ It might be worth noting that GPG does not accept less than 8 chars as an argument prefixed by 0x > $ g

Re: Packaging MATE for Debian

On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 02:06:03AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > You can use the upstream packaging, available at: > deb http://packages.mate-desktop.org/repo/debian wheezy main Thanks but I'm interested in possibly helping an effort to package MATE in Debian, rather than run it myself. > So fro

Re: Packaging MATE for Debian

On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 03:39:03PM -0500, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > What's so bad about evince that you need to use a forked version > anyway? Or gnome-icon-theme, gnome-keyring, gnome-terminal, etc. This is drifting off the topic at hand, please, take it to another list if you want to continue down t

Re: wheezy and gcc 4.3 (and maybe 4.5)

I feel your pain. I've tried to do much the same thing to diagnose old kernel bugs. I recommend installing squeeze on a small root partition entirely separately. (or older than squeeze if necessary) -- I pledge not to post to any systemd-related thread on -devel until (at least) 2013. -- To UN

Re: Packaging MATE for Debian

On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 01:26:50PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Hey, > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:22:52AM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > I'd therefore like to ask if anyone here would be willing to help me > > to get MATE into Debian for Jessie. > > I'd like to ping ba

Re: Candidates for removal from testing (2012-11-30)

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Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems

On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:19:22PM +0100, Salvo Tomaselli wrote: > I am using systemd on my laptop, i have a very default system configuration, > (except that i compile my own kernel to avoid initrd)… ^^ > …if I, with a normal, standard desktop co

Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems

On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:55:13AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > However, you are running Gentoo and rebuild your kernel, why would > you bother with such thing as kernel modules and initrd? The thing is, > many (most? all?) Gentoo user, as far as I understand (I'm not a > Gentoo user), do not use

Re: the right bug severity in case of data corruption

On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 05:29:20PM +, Jon Dowland wrote: > > The following SHOULD be 0, 1, and 2 levels of quoting, first to last. > > It was for me (Maildir) Just rechecked, I'm wrong - the first line was quoted. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.

Re: the right bug severity in case of data corruption

On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 03:34:32PM +, Darren Salt wrote: > Having just viewed the raw text of my message (as sent), there's one other > little wrinkle which I already knew but had failed to consider and which > makes testing of this useless: gpg handles any 'From ' lines itself in a > reversibl

Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems

I had a half-drafted message to the same effect, but deleted it earlier. Thanks Neil for speaking up. I have to say Thomas, many recent messages from you across many threads, mostly on -devel but also elsewhere, have seemed to have very little in the way of polite, constructive content, advancing t

Re: lib- prefix for non-library (was: Bug#693998: ITP: linux-minidisc -- Free software for accessing NetMD and HiMD MiniDisc devices)

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 05:41:35PM -0400, David Prévot wrote: > Seems weird to see another non-library ending up in the pool/main/libr/ > directory of our archive (and yet another special case to handle for > tools like deborphan). It would be nice to avoid the lib- prefix for > non-library. Nice,

Re: the right bug severity in case of data corruption

For anyone else following along at home who is slightly puzzled by all this, explains the different mbox formats, what 'From_' means, etc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a su

Re: Re: debian mate

On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:51:06PM +0100, Stefano Karapetsas wrote: > > GNOME Classic is just as featureful and usable as GNOME Shell, > > which makes it very suitable for a default desktop on non-3D machines. > > But GNOME Fallback is going to be dropped soon. I'm surprised nobody has talked abo

Re: debian mate

On 22 Nov 2012, at 15:57, Ian Jackson wrote: > So if you don't like that decision it should be escalated to the > Technical Committee. I'm surprised that *anyone* can refer issues to tech ctte. Has a non DD ever submitted something worthwhile? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@l

Re: New virtual packages: lv2-plugin and lv2-host

On 21 Nov 2012, at 17:27, Russ Allbery wrote: > don't know if Ian is, but I certainly would. We have a bunch of > existing virtual packages that aren't really useful because they don't > offer any sort of guaranteed interface, and therefore cannot be > meaningfully used in package relationships

Re: debian mate

On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 03:48:08PM +, Neil Williams wrote: > MATE will not be in Wheezy and staying on Squeeze until Jessie is released is > probably not suitable for most users. It's quite likely that if MATE packages make it into Debian at all, they will be provided in backports, so some use

Re: debian mate

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Re: Packaging MATE for Debian

On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:22:52AM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > I'd therefore like to ask if anyone here would be willing to help me > to get MATE into Debian for Jessie. As you know, there is already an effort to package MATE ongoing (at least #658783). The purpose of ITPs is to pre

Re: debian mate

On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 04:03:33AM +0100, Michael Schmitt wrote: > So much for the general rules... but exceptions ARE possible! And I > just try to make a case here about how important it might be! IF you had a set of MATE packages all ready to go and you were asking for a freeze exception for th

systemd (was Re: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev)

Hi - please change the Subject: of the thread if the topic of conversation has moved on. (We're all guilty of not doing this enough…) On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:07:29AM -0600, Kevin Toppins wrote: snip 32 line preamble I realise your intentions are good, here, but please, it is not much help. Wri

Re: debian mate

On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 06:37:48PM +0100, Michael Schmitt wrote: > And whatever they or anybody else does in that regard, it will come > to late for wheezy. All of MATE will come too late for Wheezy. It's already too late for Wheezy. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian

Re: Fwd: procenv_0.9-1_source.changes REJECTED

On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 11:10:37AM +, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: > I currently do not have facilities to build the package in question > with the host running Debian's kernel. So how can you prove that the package builds? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 01:25:38PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: > "The core components are always built (which includes systemd itself, as > well as udevd and journald). > > For some uses the configure switches do not provide sufficient modularity. > For example, they cannot be used to bu

Re: RFC on MBF (non-freeness of "The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil")

+ good-not-evil usertags 692613 + good-not-evil usertags 692615 + good-not-evil usertags 692626 + good-not-evil usertags 692621 + good-not-evil thanks On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 04:25:43PM +, Jon Dowland wrote: > I've found one of these - #692614 - is the whole set collected together > und

please change subject / trim accordingly (was Re: major linux problems summary 2012)

Every post to this thread makes my heart that little bit heavier. Can participants please a) consider whether this is on topic to -devel and move to -user if not; b) trim quotes appropriately; c) change Subject: when the subject under discussion changes Thanks in advance. -- To UNS

Re: Bug#692894: ITP: plum -- plum is a command line tool used to interact with the U-Boot netconsole of any LaCie product

On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 03:51:53PM +, Neil Williams wrote: > lucie-uboot > > lucie-uboot-netconsole If upstream refer to it as 'plum', then eradicating plum from the package name entirely isn't sensible. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "u

Re: Bug#692830: ITP: nemo -- File manager for cinnamon

On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 05:27:03PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Yes, that's correct. But that's only one of the points of my > criticism. I am in general not very much convinced by the quality of > the packages in Linux Mint. Neither am I. I did look at cinnamon and muffin briefly, sa

Re: RFC on MBF (non-freeness of "The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil")

CCing Ansgar On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 04:25:51PM +0100, Leo 'costela' Antunes wrote: > Ansgar has recently made an MBF against all packages including the > problematic JSON license term "The Software shall be used for Good, not > Evil". I've found one of these - #692614 - is the whole set collecte

Re: Bug#692830: ITP: nemo -- File manager for cinnamon

On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 05:06:57PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > I don't think it is currently a sensible decision to introduce > duplicate GNOME3 packages into Debian. Nautilus 3.4 is currently > available through GNOME3, so this would introduce redundancy. wheezy will have 3.4 but 3.

Re: Bits from the release team - Freeze update

On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 07:21:30PM +, Neil McGovern wrote: > Apologies for the lack of clarity in the d-d-a posting - the new > acceptance criteria are for unblocks filed after 11:54:49 + today. No problem - thanks for the clarification! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@

Re: Bits from the release team - Freeze update

On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 08:29:02PM +0100, Benjamin Drung wrote: > Hm, I filed two unblock requests after that deadline, but before reading > the announce mail about it. You don't state whether the decision impacts them or not, but so it goes… -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lis

Re: RFC on MBF (non-freeness of "The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil")

On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 07:13:45PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Donnerstag, 8. November 2012, Jakub Wilk wrote: > > As far as I can see Mr Crockford _enjoys_ being asked to change his > > license. So no, please don't feed the troll. > > As much as I think this licence is stupid (from my free s

Re: Bits from the release team - Freeze update

On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 10:40:18PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > Which policy applies to #685913 (and all the other open unblocks)? The > policy announced at the beginning of the freeze or the current policy? …or the time the unblock was filed? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel/AMD x86 CPU microcode update system in non-free

On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 06:12:53PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > Microcode updates will be applied immediately when the microcode > packages are installed or updated: you don't have to reboot. You will > have to keep the packages installed, though: as explained above, the > microcode

Re: Candidates for removal from testing (2012-10-30)

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 04:53:24PM +0100, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > does it make sense to establish a list of candidates for reintroduction to > testing ? Is this not something best managed on a case-by-case basis? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject o

Re: Bug#691624: ITP: dput-ng -- next generation Debian package upload tool

On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 08:03:02AM +0100, Philipp Kern wrote: > I'd prefer if such a tool could replace an existing one. Why not aim at > replacing dput if there's a reason for it? I must concur. I can't see the reason for dput, dupload and dput-ng to co-exist. If dput-ng has the momentum and is a

Re: Bug#691624: ITP: dput-ng -- next generation Debian package upload tool

On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 03:53:42PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Wrong. It will be a new thing, not related to the previous thing. It's evidently related: if not in terms of actual reused code but in terms of who is expected to use it and what it is to be used for. > On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 01:

Re: Bugs filed in unexpected places

On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 07:39:52PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 26 oct 12, 15:38:03, Thibaut Paumard wrote: > > > > it is currently showed in the PTS: e.g. > > http://packages.qa.debian.org/a/alevt.html: > > "problems > > How many non-DDs/DMs do you think are aware of the PTS? My guess i

Re: Candidates for removal from testing (results)

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Re: (seemingly) declinging bug report numbers

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 02:53:43AM +0200, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > Then again,... I wonder why Ubuntu exists, if they allegedly anyway want > their changes into Debian. > And still sounds like a fork in a respect that forks usually don't > change everything. > > But I mean that discussion

Re: Report from the BSP in Alcester, GB

Great work, thanks all! Did you usertag any of the bugs you closed in that party? It would be kind-of interesting to see them. Does anyone else think that might be useful (either now or in future?) I suppose I could just scan debian-bugs-dist for the time period. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to deb

Re: Popularity of bzr-builddeb and dh-make

On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 04:03:53PM +1100, Craig Small wrote: > Steve with his years of packaging experience is not probably a good > sample of one to base this upon. I'd be curious to see if newer > packagers use it or not. I don't bother with dh-make anymore. Like Steve the (mixed-case! Argh!) .e

Re: Out of Date Package and Maintainer Absence

On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 09:54:05AM +0200, Arno Töll wrote: > It is very unlikely they would unblock a package with major changes such > as a new upstream version. Not to say Vincent should not work on it, but > it won't be in time for Wheezy. Yes, agreed. There is the small-print reason that the e

Re: Out of Date Package and Maintainer Absence

On Wed, Oct 03, 2012 at 10:27:22PM -0700, Vincent W. Chen wrote: > I am willing to co-maintain the package with Manoj, or even maintain > it by myself if he's no longer interested in dealing with it. But > since there has been no reply from him I now turn to the list: any > suggestion on what I sho

Re: Comments+blank line in debian/control: Clarification in policy or MBF?

On Mon, Oct 01, 2012 at 02:25:36PM +0100, Michael Tautschnig wrote: > - the problem affects all packages *build-depending* on gnome-pkg-tools, thus > I'd actually have to do an MBF (it's more than 160 packages) It would be worth looking at a) whether those 160 packages have a common maintainer,

Re: Bug#687103: ITP: maps -- OpenStreetMap client for the GNOME Desktop

On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 11:08:31AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > If it pulls in half of GNOME when you install it, its nice to have the > name "gnome" in there somewhere. Well I disagree, but either way, it doesn't¹: > Depends: ${misc:Depends}, > ${python:Depends}, > gir1.2-champlain-0.12, >

Re: Comments on Mate DE

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Re: status of eligibility of dug lists on lists.debian.org

Personally, I think l.d.o would be an appropriate home for such things, but I believe the decision is one for the list server admins. Having said that, I think efforts are underway so that the alioth-hosted lists are moved to the l.d.o infrastructure, precicely because it is recognised that running

Re: Comments on Mate DE

Hello, Thank you for your mail. The reason MATE is not in Debian is that nobody has put the work in to make it so. In Debian, things happen thanks to developers putting effort in, usually in their spare time. Whilst it's true that some people believe MATE should not be included in Debian, they d

Re: CD1 without a network mirror isn't sufficient to install a full desktop environment

On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 09:08:23PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > I'm so tired of these gnome2 vs gnome3 discussions... Stop proliferating them then! They are orthogonal to the point of this thread, and you will never shout down all the people who disagree with your point of view. -- To UNSUBS

Re: Bug#688066: ITP: rex -- What do you want to deploy today?

On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:52:29PM +0200, Mike Gabriel wrote: > Description : What do you want to deploy today? A better short description is needed here. In a nutshell, what does it do? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Tro

Re: Creating and use Virtual IP Interfaces

On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 09:33:41AM +, Pietro Paolini wrote: > I am not really sure this is the correct newsletter for my question, if not > please apologize me and suggest me a right newsletter, thanks. It isn't - please try debian-user: -- To UNSU

Re: CD1 without a network mirror isn't sufficient to install a full desktop environment

On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:45:36PM +0300, Serge wrote: > There's no need to walk through the minefield, it's already done. > Fedora lost more than half of the user base with the Fedora 15 > release (GNOME3 and systemd). [citation-needed] > They now bring GNOME2 back. [1] :) > > [1] https://fedor

Re: Bug#687624: ITP: libdvdcss-pkg -- automated installer for libdvdcss

On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 01:26:19PM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > game-data-packager, although that one is a bit different: it supports a > relatively large number of game-data packages, and most of the data it > works on is not freely downloadable, so it often has to support building > "the same"

Re: Bug#687103: ITP: maps -- OpenStreetMap client for the GNOME Desktop

On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:03:33PM +0200, Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote: > Let's acknowledge that the gnome-* prefix means "to be used mostly in > the GNOME Desktop environment" and not "officially endorsed by GNOME". > Or something like that. We need to distinguish between what the situation is no

Re: CD1 without a network mirror isn't sufficient to install a full desktop environment

On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 01:06:22PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > I have encountered numerous people who have been complained (not in > particular to me, just i general) about changes to GNOME. Not being a > GNOME user myself I don't really appreciate these complaints. > However, I have observed that

Re: Bug#687001: ITP: optional-dev -- fake (empty) dev package

On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 10:01:17PM +1000, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: > When building for as many architectures as we have, situation when some > dependencies are missing (or can't exist) on some architectures is not rare. > > However we still want to build our packages with all features possible. You

Re: Bug#687103: ITP: maps -- OpenStreetMap client for the GNOME Desktop

On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 06:45:42AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Luca Capello [2012.09.09.2029 +0200]: > > Or, if this is tightened to OSM, 'gnome-osm-maps'. > > except the 'm' on "osm" is already a "map", so maybe osm-client. I like dropping 'gnome', and not doubling-up map, but o

Re: Bug#687103: ITP: maps -- OpenStreetMap client for the GNOME Desktop

On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 10:42:35PM +0200, Alessio Treglia wrote: > OK, > > so let's go on picking 'gnome-osm-maps'. > > Thank you all folks! No, one package in the archive with a misleading name doesn't mean we should have more! See also: gnuplot, not related to GNU, and no doubt many more. --

Re: Bug#686903: RFP: pass -- the standard unix password manager

On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 04:11:25AM +0200, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: > Subject: Re: Bug#686903: RFP: pass -- the standard unix password manager I realise this text comes from upstream, but "the standard unix password manager" is IMHO misleading for this program. "A unix password manager" is more ac

Re: Enabling uscan to simply remove files from upstream source

On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 05:18:57PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > I also considered, but the information of what files are excluded when > creating > the Debian source package is not relevant to upstream. > > More simply, I think that if debian/watch would radically change its format to > YAML or

Re: Discussion of uscan enhancement 1 (Was: uscan enhancement take 3: script hook)

On Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 09:04:19AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > the machine-readable format does not mention trailing slashes at the end > of directory names, and refers to the -path test of the GNU find command, Good. Having a trailing-slash be meaningful is very confusing. I especially hate th

Re: Minified javascript files

On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 12:27:02PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > 1) We have the source for the parts that we ship in binary packages, > yes. We do not, however, necessarily have the actual source for the > minified files unused for binary packages yet redistributed by us in > source tarballs:

Re: Stuff from /bin, /sbin, /lib depending on /usr/lib libraries

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 10:57:10PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 08/31/2012 06:55 PM, Riku Voipio wrote: > > How is that different from having a botched / or /boot ? Why do you > > think having a separate /usr will make / less prone to HD crashes? > > You have / on RAID5 while /usr isn't? > >

Re: [proposal] use xz compression for Debian package by default

On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 05:12:15PM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > We are building a binary distribution which main characteristic is to have > the > packages built _rarely_. As such, a useful but CPU-expensive operation is > always worth it. The situation is slightly different for Debian-

Re: [proposal] use xz compression for Debian package by default

On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 03:17:15PM +0100, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: > I don't think it's worth +dfsg, and CPU cycles will only be wasted once > on the maintainer side, since most of PNGs are in arch:all packages anyway. I used to hack on the games-thumbnails package a bit, which ran optipng as part

Re: [proposal] use xz compression for Debian package by default

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 12:56:47PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > Before wondering whether PNG files should have an additional > compression level, is there any reason why a better PNG compression > isn't used in the first place? For instance, "optipng -o9" tries > various parameters and keeps the

Re: Enabling uscan to simply remove files from upstream source

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 12:38:14PM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: > ...Or add the exclude list to a file called 'debian/watch'. I struggle to see why. I suppose because uscan reads debian/watch, but the point of that file is to document where to find upstream sources, the name implies that, and put

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:58:42AM +0200, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > But if anyone would lobby that (release goal: default to CGI/FCGI), > they'd have definitely my support :) A bit late for wheezy, do you mean for +1? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org wit

Re: Change default PATH for Jessie / wheezy+1

On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 12:40:42PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > Warning the user that they are using an obsolete tool is IMO entirely > justified, particularly when there is a much better and more capable > replacement. And there's plenty of precedent: $ ffmpeg ffmpeg version 0.8.3-6:0.

Re: Change default PATH for Jessie / wheezy+1

On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 04:41:35AM +0200, Ulrich Dangel wrote: > On 08/08/12 04:11, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > Fedora did it a few months ago, so probably we should do it as well to > > minimize the pain. > > As far as I know (based on > / > http

Re: Bug#685064: ITP: non-daw -- please package non-things

On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 11:19:23AM +0200, rosea grammostolla wrote: > Subject: Re: Bug#685064: ITP: non-daw -- please package non-things ^ You've filed an ITP (I Intent To Package) but your subject reads more like a Request For som

Re: Bug#685042: ITP: libpam-ssh -- Authenticate using SSH keys

It would be nice if your initial upload would resolve the multiple issues that were the cause for the package removal, rather than simply reintroduce them. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.

Re: node-like file conflicts

On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 01:00:38PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > /usr/games is a swamp for another time I think. I guess it contains > an awful lot of things with clashing names. Last I checked the latest FHS drafts removed /usr/games entirely, so the morass might end up being dumped into /usr/bin

Re: RFC: Why are so many debian packages outdated?

On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 12:20:23AM +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > Svante Signell writes: > > NMUs should be made/allowed/encouraged? I know all packaging is made by > > volunteers at their spare time, but anyway. Debian is one of the best > > distributions, what about raising the bar a littl

Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict)

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 01:55:06PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Jon Dowland writes ("Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to > mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs > conflict)"): > > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 12:15:15AM

Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict)

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 12:15:15AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > We are in the process of discussing a variety of constitutional amendments > to be raised by the tech-ctte that will hopefully end up creating a sort > of bundle of constitutional fixes to vote on. Perhaps it would be good to > includ

Re: Have NetworkManager disabled by default when... (was: Recommends for metapackages)

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 03:31:37PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > Still, the check would be useful on laptops where wicd is installed > and enabled (the user could have a default ifupdown config and wicd > enabled). What happens if neither wicd nor network-manager are installed, and then both are

Re: Recommends for metapackages

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 11:25:05PM +, Sune Vuorela wrote: > for the 1-2% of people who has weird needs. It's this proportion which I think is not consistent, nor agreed, amongst all developers. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe

Re: Recommends for metapackages

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 08:51:32AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > Broken as in "partially working because there are expected features missing" > is the _very_ definition of "not installing a recommended package". > > Now, "broken" as in "doesn't work at all for any use case" would be

Re: Recommends for metapackages

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 04:39:10PM +, Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2012-07-10, Gergely Nagy wrote: > > No. Only if installing recommends is turned on, which cannot be > > guaranteed. > > There is many ways to break your system. turning off installation of > recommends is one of them. If turning

Re: N-M: Depends->Recommends (was: Re: duplicates in the archive)

On Mon, Jul 09, 2012 at 11:13:16PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > and also, as Philipp Kern noticed before, things that use N-M to > distinguish between online and offline modes will think they're offline > after uninstalling N-M until they are restarted. You get this even with n-m installed, if n-

Re: Improving our response to "duplicate" packages in Debian

On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 05:28:45AM +, Bart Martens wrote: > I'm not convinced that the recent additions to the wiki page reflect consensus > in this debate. But I appreciate your attempt to summarize this debate on > that > wiki page. Maybe we should revert the recent changes on that wiki pa

Re: Improving our response to "duplicate" packages in Debian

I really like these suggestions. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120628160643.GB11366@debian

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