Re: up-to-date dump of packages metadata.

2010-11-11 Thread Gustavo Franco
Andreas Tille wrote: > On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 06:39:31PM -0800, Gustavo Franco wrote: >> Would it >> be possible to add more fields if passing more flags >> ?format=txt.gz&extra_fields=maintainer ... ? > > IMHO a quite flexible way to get the information yo

Re: up-to-date dump of packages metadata.

2010-11-10 Thread Gustavo Franco
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 04:36:23PM -0800, Gustavo Franco wrote: >> Do we have an up-to-date dump of packages metadata (name, version, >> short and long description) somewhere in a similar form popcon is >> gener

up-to-date dump of packages metadata.

2010-11-10 Thread Gustavo Franco
Do we have an up-to-date dump of packages metadata (name, version, short and long description) somewhere in a similar form popcon is generating and keeping its information available at popcon.debian.org for download? thanks in advance, -- Gustavo "stratus" Franco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to deb

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-07-30 Thread Gustavo Franco
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > >        I would like to set up a selinux related release goal for >  Squeeze. > >  Developer assiociated:  Manoj Srivastava (Perhaps also Russell Coker, >                         but I have not discussed this with him) >  Issues to

Re: [Soc-coordination] Official Debian AWS EC2 AMIs?

2009-03-29 Thread Gustavo Franco
Agreed and please don't forget Eucalyptus[0]. [0] = http://eucalyptus.cs.ucsb.edu/ 2009/3/28 Obey Arthur Liu : > Edouard Nemours a écrit : >> Dear List, >> >> i'd love to raise awareness of the fact that many companies and users of >> debian hosts move their systems to "the cloud" (for instance a

Re: Is The number of stable users dropping fast?

2008-12-22 Thread Gustavo Franco
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 6:40 AM, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > Looking at http://popcon.debian.org/ >, it seem to me that the > number of stable installations is dropping fast. The graph > "popularity-contest versions in use" show this, with version 1.41 > being the one in stable. > > When the ver

Re: Debian on the Desktop - plans for Lenny?

2007-08-09 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 8/9/07, Ben Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2007-08-08 at 11:20 -0400, Tim Hull wrote: > > > > We already have this on the desktop, from what I can > > see (there is evidence of a > > scaling-module-loading-thingummy running on boot)

Re: Debian on the Desktop - plans for Lenny?

2007-08-09 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 8/9/07, Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Mittwoch 08 August 2007 23:02 schrieb Petter Reinholdtsen: > > [Julian Andres Klode] > > > > > We should try to use binary packages provided by linux-modules-* or > > > other modules packages by default and fallback to m-a. > > > > You migh

Re: Debian on the Desktop - plans for Lenny?

2007-08-09 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 8/9/07, Luis Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Qui, 2007-08-09 às 14:10 +0200, Michael Banck escreveu: > > On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 10:27:40AM +0100, Luis Matos wrote: > > > Qua, 2007-08-08 às 20:30 +0200, Hendrik Sattler escreveu: > > > > Additionally, it should be noted that a desktop task has

Re: Debian on the Desktop - plans for Lenny?

2007-08-09 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 8/9/07, Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 10:27:40AM +0100, Luis Matos wrote: > > Qua, 2007-08-08 às 20:30 +0200, Hendrik Sattler escreveu: > > > Additionally, it should be noted that a desktop task has nothing with > > > multimedia (means: surprise, you can use

Re: Debian on the Desktop - plans for Lenny?

2007-08-08 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 8/9/07, Tim Hull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > My browser (iceweasel) does include .mov as a supported format. All the > files I try to play open a player applet, but it does nothing. Trying to > open them manually with Totem results in a "Video Codec Advanced Video > Coding (H264) is n

Re: Debian on the Desktop - plans for Lenny?

2007-08-08 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 8/9/07, Tim Hull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > - driver detection > > We've driver detection, what's wrong with this feature in your use > > case scenario? > > I was talking about driver detection with out-of-tree drivers that must be > built with "module-assistant". It actually looks li

Re: Debian on the Desktop - plans for Lenny?

2007-08-08 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 8/8/07, Tim Hull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (...) > > > > It seems that we have no support for FAAC in main yet. Could you point > > out a package, set of packages or upstream projects that I should look > > for? > > I meant faad, sorry. Here's the main lib: > > http://packages.debian.org/u

Re: Debian on the Desktop - plans for Lenny?

2007-08-08 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 8/8/07, Tim Hull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, Hi Tim, > I'm a new (though fairly knowledgeable) Debian user and possibly a > prospective developer. Anyway, though I do like Debian a lot, one thing is > obvious - it lags somewhat behind as a desktop (or laptop) distribution as > compared to

Re: Debian on the Desktop - plans for Lenny?

2007-08-08 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 8/8/07, Tim Hull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Tim, > > In addition, there is not reliable solution for suspend/hibernate, > especially > > from X. There still some way to go for X and the kernel to get to there. > > > The bundled suspend scripts seem to be improving somewhat, but they need >

Re: Installation of Recommends by default on October 1st

2007-08-01 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 8/1/07, Reinhard Tartler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > (...) > > I tried the sample commands and apt wanted to add HALF A GIGABYTE of > > unnecessary stuff!!! Others may consider hard disc space cheap but, in > > truth, hard disc space is not infinite

Re: Looking for new FTP assistants

2007-07-10 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/10/07, Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 09 Jul 2007, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Mon, 09 Jul 2007, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Also, why don't we create a meta-package in the BTS for priority > > changes? > > It would actually just be enough to create a set of usertags for > priori

Re: who are the kernel maintainers?

2007-07-04 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/4/07, Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 2007-07-04 at 18:18 +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Wed, Jul 4, 2007 at 09:14:24 -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > > I'm trying to find out who has responsibility for Bug #430646. It's a > > critical bug, which should norma

Re: Reliability of data (Was: Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).)

2007-06-28 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 6/28/07, Daniel Ruoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ter, 2007-06-12 às 10:26 -0300, Gustavo Franco escreveu: > Any idea on how to collect more reliable data in a opt-in base? Does a > survey on pentabarf (or public acessible) during debconf makes sense? Huh How can "opt

Re: Looking for a copy of dpkg's old arch repository

2007-06-27 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 6/27/07, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, as discussed on [EMAIL PROTECTED], we're looking for a copy of dpkg's old arch repository used while Scott James Remnant was dpkg's maintainer. http://lists.debian.org/debian-dpkg/2007/06/msg6.html If anyone has a copy of it, pl

Re: apt package channel / python-apt

2007-06-27 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 6/27/07, Frédéric PICA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Greets, I have some interrogations about apt : I want to develop a centralized system holding what packages operations happened on a remote debian system (in a database). I'm using the DPkg::Pre-Install-Pkgs apt option to get information about

Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

2007-06-13 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 6/12/07, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 04:40:54PM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote: > >* What do you mean by "switch unstable automatic nature to not > > automatic" > In a few words, move the 'NotAutomatic: yes'

Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

2007-06-12 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 6/12/07, Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tuesday 12 June 2007 21:40, Gustavo Franco wrote: > > * What effect do you think removing experimental will have on > > unstable? * How do you think it will have that effect? > > > I think it will have a positive eff

Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

2007-06-12 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 6/12/07, Luk Claes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Gustavo Franco wrote: > Hi Luk, > > On 6/12/07, Luk Claes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Gustavo Franco wrote: >> >> (...) >> > * Switch unstable (release) for not automatic updates >> >&

Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

2007-06-12 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 6/12/07, Luk Claes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Gustavo Franco wrote: > On 6/12/07, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Gustavo Franco wrote: >> > Do you think that the numbers are positive in terms of testing usage, >> > really? I see the numbers e

Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

2007-06-12 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 6/12/07, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Gustavo Franco wrote: > Do you think that the numbers are positive in terms of testing usage, > really? I see the numbers even if not that reliable as proof of my > argument that just a few (almost half if compared with unstable)

Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

2007-06-12 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 6/12/07, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 10:29:59AM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote: > Considering that we know that experimental is not a full branch and > there's no migration from experimental to unstable, do you agree then > we could rem

Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

2007-06-12 Thread Gustavo Franco
Hi Luk, On 6/12/07, Luk Claes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Gustavo Franco wrote: (...) > * Switch unstable (release) for not automatic updates They are only automatic as far as the Release Team wants them to be as explained earlier... I'm not writing about "automatic"

Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

2007-06-12 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 6/12/07, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Gustavo Franco wrote: > Sorry, i forgot CUT it looks like a 0 proposal since it came first. > How and when do you plan to start a team for that and have you > considered who from other teams will need to join/agree on the

Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

2007-06-12 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 6/12/07, Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 1) The 'remove experimental' proposal > experimental is not a 'full' branch like stable, testing or unstable. It only has a handfull of package built for it (at least that is what I have seen from reading debian-devel-changes) Also, there is n

Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

2007-06-12 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 6/11/07, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Gustavo Franco wrote: > * testing metric is too simple, packages are allowed to enter testing > only after a certain period of time has passed no matter if much > people tested it before that and just when they don't have >

Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

2007-06-11 Thread Gustavo Franco
I would like to ask you interested in our next release to stop and look at 'testing' for a while. I believe that now, during the start of a development cycle and during debcamp/debconf we've a interesting opportunity to review pros and cons of our current approach. We believe that 'testing' means

Re: http://utnubu.alioth.debian.org/scottish/ still used?

2007-05-30 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 5/30/07, Joachim Breitner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I am wondering if anyone still uses the re-ordered ubuntu patches provided by the Utnubu team at http://utnubu.alioth.debian.org/scottish/ If nobody finds this useful, I'd probably do the alioth admins a favor if I stop the cr

Re: Announce: DebianArt.org

2007-05-09 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 5/9/07, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: also sprach André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.05.09.2249 +0200]: > After some comments in debian-desktop list[1], the DebianArtwork Team[2] > prepared the DebianArt.org site[3]. Why not art.debian.{net,org}? Feel fre

Re: Announce: DebianArt.org

2007-05-09 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 5/9/07, Yves-Alexis Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On mer, 2007-05-09 at 17:49 -0300, André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira wrote: > What do you think? > We think this is one of the available ways for a best desktop Hmh, a nice idea would be to add preview thumbnails next to each item, because

Re: Estimating number of existing Debian users

2007-05-09 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 5/9/07, Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I've tried to craft an hypothesis about number of Debian users, from apt-listbugs logs. I've analysed merkel.debian.org access logs. Since etch was released, 3 unique IPs were used to access merkel.debian.org using apt-listbugs. Accord

Re: patches.ubuntu.com and the Debian PTS derivatives

2007-04-22 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 4/2/07, Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As some of you may have noticed, the patches.ubuntu.com website and equivalent mailing of changes to the Debian PTS and ubuntu-patches mailing list has been offline, or at least intermittent, for a few weeks. This was caused by the hostin

Re: co-mentor for a GSoC proposal wanted: debbugs web submission

2007-03-15 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 3/15/07, Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all, I'm willing to present a Debian project proposal for the Google Summer of Code [1] for implementing a web frontend for reporting bugs to the Debian BTS. I'm volunteering for being a mentor for such a project. I've expertise in th

Re: Bits from the Debian GNU/kFreeBSD porters

2007-02-06 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 2/6/07, Aurelien Jarno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Gustavo Franco a écrit : > On 2/5/07, GNU/kFreeBSD Maintainers wrote: >> Hello, Debian world! >> >> This is a status update for the Debian GNU/FreeBSD port[1]. This port >> consists of two architectures:

Re: Bits from the Debian GNU/kFreeBSD porters

2007-02-06 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 2/6/07, Marco Amadori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alle 11:03, martedì 6 febbraio 2007, Daniel Baumann ha scritto: > Gustavo Franco wrote: > > Do you know if there is a way to build Debian GNU/kFreeBSD Live cd > > images using live-package's svn tree ? > > un

Re: Bits from the Debian GNU/kFreeBSD porters

2007-02-05 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 2/5/07, GNU/kFreeBSD Maintainers wrote: Hello, Debian world! This is a status update for the Debian GNU/FreeBSD port[1]. This port consists of two architectures: kfreebsd-i386 and kfreebsd-amd64. (...) Do you know if there is a way to build Debian GNU/kFreeBSD Live cd images using live-pac

Re: DebConf7: call for papers reminder

2007-01-28 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 1/28/07, Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 10914 March 1977, Gustavo Franco wrote: >> If you are applying for travel sponsorship, make sure you have entered >> your full travel details and costs. > Could you confirm that my form has enough information? I felt t

Re: DebConf7: call for papers reminder

2007-01-28 Thread Gustavo Franco
(...) Reminder: DebConf7 Registration --- (...) If you are applying for travel sponsorship, make sure you have entered your full travel details and costs. Hi Moray, Could you confirm that my form has enough information? I felt the lack of feedback on this matter, si

Re: Bits from the debian-cd team; more CD/DVDs being built regularly

2006-12-20 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 12/20/06, Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 05:04:28PM -0200, Gustavo Franco wrote: (...) >>In case it's not obvious, the 3 arches picked for these discs are >>simply the most common end-user systems out there. There is scope for >

Re: Bits from the debian-cd team; more CD/DVDs being built regularly

2006-12-20 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 12/20/06, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Gustavo Franco wrote: > Unfortunately, even the GNOME desktop environment doesn't fit on the > CD#1. True, but enough does fit to have a basically useable gnome desktop. Right, but we need to make it clear for the users and

Re: Bits from the debian-cd team; more CD/DVDs being built regularly

2006-12-20 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 12/20/06, Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (...) Gnome vs. KDE vs. XFCE == The KDE and XFCE variants of CD#1 are now being produced to give more choice to people for initial installation. By default, CD#1 has always meant to be enough to install a fully-functioni

Re: Is something wrong to XGL, Compiz, Cgwd be packaged?

2006-10-29 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 10/29/06, David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 08:43:07PM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > Am Samstag 28 Oktober 2006 20:30 schrieb David Nusinow: > > For etch+1, I'm planning on making it enabled by default and doing away > > with most of the debconf stuff anyway th

Re: Is something wrong to XGL, Compiz, Cgwd be packaged?

2006-10-28 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 10/28/06, Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Saturday 28 October 2006 23:11, Gustavo Franco wrote: > If there will be no regressions, please add the composite bit in the > xorg.conf by default. Is that really a good idea for something that is so young and untested, so shortl

Re: Is something wrong to XGL, Compiz, Cgwd be packaged?

2006-10-28 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 10/28/06, David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 02:30:19PM -0200, Gustavo Franco wrote: > If we're going to ship xorg with aiglx and composite enabled by > default (actually i dunno really), beryl in etch and in default > desktop environment (jus

Re: Is something wrong to XGL, Compiz, Cgwd be packaged?

2006-10-28 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 10/28/06, David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 11:23:27PM +1000, Paul TBBle Hampson wrote: > Given you're talking about cgwd, you prolly mean beryl (nee > compiz-quinnstorm) rather than the original compiz which is > in Debian. > > The beryl packaging is being unde

Re: Desktop task(sel) in Etch? (Bug #389092)

2006-09-26 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 9/26/06, Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, devs... I have tried the new Etch installer last weekend and I'm impressed. The installation works perfectly well and the graphical installer - while it doesn't add much value IMHO to the dialog based installer - looks nice and will surel

Re: Desktop task(sel) in Etch? (Bug #389092)

2006-09-26 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 9/26/06, Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [Christoph Haas] > Currently the way to install KDE is to provide the option > "tasksel/first=kde-desktop" when booting the Etch installer CD. No > user will guess that. Ah, is that how it is done. Thank you for the clue. It should be

Re: Thanks for the work

2006-09-03 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 9/3/06, David Barker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm writing this mail to you the developers to say thanks for the work you put into Debian. I am really impressed at how polished etch as a desktop OS is. Apart from the few odd things (mostly because I'm on 64bit and its still testing) its reall

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-08-01 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 8/1/06, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Le dimanche 30 juillet 2006 à 08:36 +0200, Christian Perrier a écrit : > To be fair with Ryan here, I seem to remember that he mentioned (maybe > not in the bug report) that he would consider making a Debian theme > the default...if one gets

Re: Debian should have a weekly debate

2006-07-31 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/31/06, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: also sprach alfredo diega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.07.31.1616 +0100]: > I really believe Debian would benefit if they had a weekly debate. > I understand you debate on things you are voting on, but I think > it could be better if you debated

Re: Etch artwork (was: Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?)

2006-07-31 Thread Gustavo Franco
Message sent to the related projects mailing lists and maintainers. Time to deal with the goodies, pressure, critics and work... regards, -- stratus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: package ownership in Debian

2006-07-31 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/31/06, Hubert Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:00:21 +0000, "Gustavo Franco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: [...] > The packages that aren't under group maintenance and will never be, > needs more not so strict NMU rules. Why? Due t

Re: Etch artwork (was: Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?)

2006-07-31 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/31/06, Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 10:37:54AM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: > At 1154196833 past the epoch, Michael Banck wrote: > > It makes no sense to complain about this until we have a > > good default artwork. So let's fix that first, then > > convince

Re: package ownership in Debian

2006-07-29 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/29/06, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 21:20:35 +, Gustavo Franco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I'm not here for push "new upstream releases" into your packages, > for example. We're talking about bug fixing and bet

Re: package ownership in Debian

2006-07-29 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/29/06, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:00:21 +, Gustavo Franco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On 7/29/06, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 16:27:26 +, Gustavo Franco >> <[EMAIL PR

Re: package ownership in Debian

2006-07-29 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/29/06, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 16:27:26 +, Gustavo Franco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On 7/29/06, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:38:52 -0300, Gustavo Franco >> <[EMAIL PRO

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-07-29 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/29/06, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 12:23:33 -0500, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 05:44:38PM +0100, Steve Kemp wrote: >> > If Debian had slightly less of a culture of "Keep your hands off >> > my package", I'd do it here

Re: package ownership in Debian

2006-07-29 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/29/06, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:38:52 -0300, Gustavo Franco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > * Promote NMU LowThreshold wiki list giving it some official status. What does this mean? That you're out of date on what'

Re: package ownership in Debian

2006-07-28 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/29/06, Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * Thomas Viehmann [Fri, 28 Jul 2006 23:40:19 +0200]: > If that is wanted, I'd consider it important enough information to have > it in debian/control. A couple packages of mine ship already with an X-VCS-Bzr header in the source. Example:

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-07-28 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/28/06, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Le vendredi 28 juillet 2006 à 18:53 -0300, Gustavo Franco a écrit : > Let us calm down and think twice before replying, please. > > Btw, it happened with a co-worker yesterday, i asked him to open a > bug. I think you c

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-07-28 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/28/06, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Le vendredi 28 juillet 2006 à 23:10 +0200, Marco d'Itri a écrit : > On Jul 28, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Happily you are here to innovate. For example, I love that kernel/udev > > breakage in sarge to etch upgrades. T

Re: package ownership in Debian

2006-07-28 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/28/06, Simon Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, Gustavo Franco wrote: > * The package that contains only the Maintainer field with the name of > a person and not a group can be uploaded by any DD. ping the current > maintainer is good but not required; I propose

Re: package ownership in Debian

2006-07-28 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/28/06, Daniel Baumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Gustavo Franco wrote: > For existing packages: > > * The package that contains only the Maintainer field with the name of > a person and not a group can be uploaded by any DD. ping the current > maintainer is good but

Re: package ownership in Debian (was: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?)

2006-07-28 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/28/06, Katrina Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Okay here is another honest question: Do you really honestly think not having co-maintainers for base packages is ever a good idea? What if someone is busy? You don't really feel safe noticing your base packages aren't being co-maintain

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-07-28 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/28/06, Katrina Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I keep seeing your arguments about how some people want on;y a 100 MB system by default. But you do give an option to have a Desktop, even Laptop install. What not make those installs have better support for Desktop and Laptop Users. For e

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-07-28 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/28/06, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: John Goerzen wrote: > Think about it -- if you manage dozens, hundreds, or thousands of Debian > machines -- few of which even have a monitor -- how useful is this? > > Debian is all about not making assumptions like this. If you want this > featu

Re: package ownership in Debian (was: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?)

2006-07-28 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/28/06, Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * Gustavo Franco [Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:38:52 -0300]: > * Promote NMU LowThreshold wiki list giving it some official status. And remember that (well done) NMUs are not only for bugs of RC severity. For example, I'm going to uploa

Re: package ownership in Debian (was: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?)

2006-07-28 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/28/06, Mario Iseli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi there, (...) I imagine if we would have a big CVS tree like Gentoo or some BSD's, i wouldn't know where to begin with my work or what I sould do. The forest is so large and you don't see the tree! I don't think we need a central approach,

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-07-28 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/28/06, Tyler MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Personally, I have no problem with this. But if Debian is unwilling to > fill these (not terribly niche) requirements itself, it's not reasonable > to complain when people build on Debian in order

Re: wotomae? (was: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?)

2006-07-28 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/28/06, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: also sprach Gustavo Franco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.07.28.1901 +0100]: > This kind of task takes time and isn't well documented on how to > do from scratch, but hopefully we will have another web tool > (wotomae

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-07-28 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/28/06, Amaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: martin f krafft wrote: > I am finding lots of interesting points in other people's replies. Yes, I am also surprised about the civil tone (on most of the replies). I've the same feeling, best thread in Debian mailing lists for me after years and yea

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-07-28 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/28/06, Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Debian is all about not making assumptions like this. If you want this > feature, you are free to install it. And, while this makes Debian a wonderful choice for all sorts of things, it means that

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-07-28 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/28/06, Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 07:22:11PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: >> On Jul 28, Gustavo Franco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > Debian stopped innovatin

Re: package ownership in Debian (was: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?)

2006-07-28 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/28/06, Fabio Tranchitella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Pierre, please don't Cc me, I read this list. :) Il giorno ven, 28/07/2006 alle 19.28 +0200, Pierre Habouzit ha scritto: > and that won't happen because I'm not very keen on leraning yet another > VCS, and that other's think the same

Re: package ownership in Debian (was: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?)

2006-07-28 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/28/06, Clint Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, and we could start by really enforcing co-maintainership. Make it 100% > mandatory for all essential, required and base packages at first. Are there packages which are particularly well co-maintained right now? What about debian-insta

Re: package ownership in Debian (was: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?)

2006-07-28 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/28/06, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: also sprach Gustavo Franco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.07.28.1838 +0100]: > * Promote NMU LowThreshold wiki list giving it some official status. > The developer needs to be logged and mark if all his packages (where > he

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-07-28 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/28/06, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 07:22:11PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jul 28, Gustavo Franco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Debian stopped innovating? > Yes. This should be obvious to people who joined the project

Re: package ownership in Debian (was: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?)

2006-07-28 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/28/06, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Please reply to -project only! also sprach Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.07.28.1737 +0100]: > If Debian had slightly less of a culture of "Keep your hands off > my package", I'd do it here instead. I've been thinking about this

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-07-28 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/28/06, Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 10:46:57AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > Debian is a project of volunteers. I am a Debian volunteer. I'm not > going to write something just because you gripe at me about it. I have > no obligation to you. I will wor

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-07-28 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/28/06, Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jul 28, Amaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Huge Troll Warning It's sad that many people replied this way when it's obvious that Debian has stopped innovating long ago. But I suppose that this is part of the problem. Debian stopped innovat

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-07-28 Thread Gustavo Franco
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Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System

2006-07-19 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/19/06, Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2006-07-17 20:39, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > The Ubuntu distribution will be the first to make use of this new feature No, i've told him (and jvw if i recall correctly) about the scottwatcher's idea / PTS integration and they decided

Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System

2006-07-19 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/19/06, Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2006-07-18 00:10, Gustavo Franco wrote: > Thanks Scott, i'll stop scottwatcher and update the current page[0] > with details about the new stuff. > > [0] = > http://people.debian.org/~stratus/scottwatcher

Re: Congrats to the ftpmasters

2006-07-18 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/18/06, Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The NEW queue is down to *22* packages, which is totally unheard of. Only three packages have been waiting longer than a month -- so Javier's package is no longer in the 'endless wait' state. At the same time, the RM bugs are in fairly good

Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System

2006-07-18 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/18/06, Denis Barbier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, Jul 18, 2006 at 05:33:45PM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote: > On 7/18/06, Denis Barbier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Mon, Jul 17, 2006 at 10:39:18PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > >> Hello everybody, >

Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System

2006-07-18 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/18/06, Denis Barbier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, Jul 17, 2006 at 10:39:18PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hello everybody, > > here are some news about the latest changes made to the Package Tracking > System. > > New derivatives keyword > --- > > The PTS will be

Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System

2006-07-17 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/17/06, Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2006-07-17 20:48, Gustavo Franco wrote: > On 7/17/06, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [...] > > New derivatives keyword > > --- > > [...] > > The Ubuntu

Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System

2006-07-17 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/17/06, Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, Jul 17, 2006 at 06:59:41PM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-patches/ That's indeed great to address my concern but ... > >A dumb way to implement that is of course s

Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System

2006-07-17 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/17/06, Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, Jul 17, 2006 at 10:39:18PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > New derivatives keyword > --- > Each time that a new package is uploaded to Ubuntu, the PTS will receive > the diff between the new version and the prev

Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System

2006-07-17 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 7/17/06, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] New derivatives keyword --- [...] The Ubuntu distribution will be the first to make use of this new feature. Each time that a new package is uploaded to Ubuntu, the PTS will receive the diff between the new version a

Re: Booting - new idea?

2006-06-30 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 6/30/06, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 11:54:42AM +0200, Tim Dijkstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 15:14:07 -0300 > "Gustavo Franco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 6/29/06, Christian Perrier

Re: News from the python policy transition

2006-06-30 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 6/29/06, Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 16:25:17 +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > Le mer 28 juin 2006 23:20, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : >> So you don't have any excuse to not update your packages any more. >> About 60% of the Python modules have already been updated,

Re: Booting - new idea?

2006-06-30 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 6/30/06, Tim Dijkstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 15:14:07 -0300 "Gustavo Franco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 6/29/06, Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Software suspend which exists in kernel for several years?

Re: Debian mactel linux support?

2006-06-29 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 6/29/06, Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi I've got hold of an intel mac that I'm interested in getting Debian running. I've seen quite a few folks running Debian on MacBook Pro at Debconf in Mexico, and I'm surprised that there aren't Debian packages. The things I'm planning on

Re: Booting - new idea?

2006-06-29 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 6/29/06, Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Software suspend which exists in kernel for several years? And works properly in Debian since what? Weeks? Months?:-) It doesn't really work properly anywhere, does it? :-P regards, -- stratus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PRO

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