Re: Fixing the mime horror ini Debian

2012-07-13 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 13 July 2012 13:45:19 Bernhard R. Link wrote: > * Per Olofsson [120713 12:18]: > > 1. Rewrite xdg-utils so that it is robust and always works. > > It you want to make xdg-open useable for everything, please also > add a way to specify the mime type as option. Without that using > it for

Re: Bug#679547: ITP: ben -- toolbox for Debian maintainers

2012-06-29 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 29 June 2012 21:18:39 Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 07:36:46PM +0200, Benjamin Drung wrote: > > Am Freitag, den 29.06.2012, 19:21 +0200 schrieb Mehdi Dogguy: > > > Package: wnpp > > > Severity: wishlist > > > Owner: Mehdi Dogguy > > > > > > * Package name: ben > > >

Bug#679265: RFH: libisoburn -- command line ISO-9660 and Rock Ridge manipulation tool

2012-06-27 Thread George Danchev
Package: wnpp Severity: normal I request assistance with maintaining the libisoburn package. I currently lack the time to maintain this package alone. This includes a high-level library along with a versatile app called xorriso for burning and image production. It has grown a tremendous amount of

Bug#679254: RFH: libisofs -- library to create ISO9660 images

2012-06-27 Thread George Danchev
Package: wnpp Severity: normal I request assistance with maintaining the libisofs package. I currently lack the time to maintain this package alone. The major drain of time is following various image specs, following the upstream VCS, and further discussions. One interesting aspect is that libiso

Bug#679249: RFH: libburn -- library to provide CD/DVD writing functions

2012-06-27 Thread George Danchev
Package: wnpp Severity: normal I request assistance with maintaining the libburn package. I currently lack the sufficient time, and burning devices to provide adequate testing of its optical burning capabilities, although the software is in quite mature state. In this case the burning applicaiton

Re: Lets (eventually) find a good solution for /tmp

2012-06-11 Thread George Danchev
On Monday 11 June 2012 16:01:10 Aneurin Price wrote: > On 10 June 2012 19:31, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > On 06/11/2012 12:06 AM, Don Armstrong wrote: > >> swap file on / [...] is > >> really the direction that we should be going > > > > NO ! > > > > Does this need to be explained? :/ Hi, > Not

Re: Starting services automatically after install

2012-06-03 Thread George Danchev
On Sunday 03 June 2012 08:46:21 Chow Loong Jin wrote: Hi, > On 03/06/2012 11:23, Aaron Toponce wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 10:43:00PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > >> Are you seriously suggesting that DHCP and SSH servers should not listen > >> on external interfaces by default? The use

Re: why hijacking is bad (and salvaging is good) Re: Orphaning php-codesniffer, then take it over by the PHP PEAR team

2012-06-02 Thread George Danchev
On Saturday 02 June 2012 05:36:04 Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 06/02/2012 04:43 AM, Holger Levsen wrote: > > now that I notice the subject change I also notice the original > > subject... > > > > hi Thomas 8-) > > LOL ! > > I'm amazed that it's seems I'm capable of creating huge uncontrollable > t

Re: Orphaning php-codesniffer, then take it over by the PHP PEAR team

2012-06-01 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 01 June 2012 20:08:22 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > On 12-06-01 at 06:06pm, George Danchev wrote: > > On Thursday 31 May 2012 16:54:13 Scott Kitterman wrote: > > > > Hi, Hi, > > > > ...hence the Sponsors (who are also a full-fledged DDs) are >

Re: Orphaning php-codesniffer, then take it over by the PHP PEAR team

2012-06-01 Thread George Danchev
On Thursday 31 May 2012 16:54:13 Scott Kitterman wrote: Hi, > > ...hence the Sponsors (who are also a full-fledged DDs) are responsible. > > It is that simple. > > If it's really that simple, one should never sponsor a package one doesn't > care to maintain. If this is the case, we should just

Re: Orphaning php-codesniffer, then take it over by the PHP PEAR team

2012-05-31 Thread George Danchev
On Thursday 31 May 2012 16:15:31 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > [dropping PHP Pear team as cc] > > On 12-05-31 at 03:16pm, George Danchev wrote: > > On Thursday 31 May 2012 11:47:21 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > > You and a lot of others fail to realize that the *SPONSOR*

Re: Orphaning php-codesniffer, then take it over by the PHP PEAR team

2012-05-31 Thread George Danchev
On Thursday 31 May 2012 14:43:00 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > On 12-05-31 at 08:02pm, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > On 05/31/2012 04:36 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > Hijacking, in my vocabulary, is when a non-maintainer takes matters > > > in his/her/their own hands and takes over maintainership witho

Re: Orphaning php-codesniffer, then take it over by the PHP PEAR team

2012-05-31 Thread George Danchev
On Thursday 31 May 2012 11:47:21 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Hi, > > You and a lot of others fail to realize that the *SPONSOR* is > > responsible for the package. > > Huh?!? > > What does "Maintainer:" mean if not the entity being responsible for, > well, maintaining?!? Who is responsible for the

Re: Moving /tmp to tmpfs makes it useless

2012-05-25 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 25 May 2012 09:46:37 Vincent Danjean wrote: > If some kind of sync is required by the application, I think this is > because the application want to ensure the data are really written to > the disk so that their state remains coherent even in case of crash. > If the application is ok to

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

2012-05-10 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 11 May 2012 00:01:14 Uoti Urpala wrote: --cut-- > > You need to at least start reading some man-pages (a good start would be > > ucf(1), ucfr(1), ucfq(1), debconf-devel(7)) before keep jamming > > suggestion like "improvements to be able to alert the user about > > changes". This is alrea

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

2012-05-10 Thread George Danchev
On Thursday 10 May 2012 21:46:41 Uoti Urpala wrote: > Don Armstrong wrote: > > On Thu, 10 May 2012, Uoti Urpala wrote: > > > You're pretty much just saying that dpkg and helpers like ucf have > > > implemented better functionality than rpm. I don't see how that's > > > relevant to the discussion. >

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

2012-05-10 Thread George Danchev
On Thursday 10 May 2012 19:53:18 Uoti Urpala wrote: > George Danchev wrote: > > On Thursday 10 May 2012 00:22:11 Uoti Urpala wrote: > > > Steve McIntyre wrote: > > > > No, really - please *do* do this. The fact that a lot of the software > > > > co

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

2012-05-10 Thread George Danchev
On Thursday 10 May 2012 00:22:11 Uoti Urpala wrote: > Steve McIntyre wrote: > > Josh Triplett wrote: > > >Marco d'Itri wrote: > > >> The more I think about it, the more I suspect that the correct > > >> solution would be to just symlink /lib/udev/rules.d/ to > > >> /etc/udev/rules.d/ and so on. > >

Re: switching from exim to postfix

2012-05-05 Thread George Danchev
On Monday 30 April 2012 12:58:18 Carsten Hey wrote: Hi, > The rest of this mail is likely not interesting for most of you since it > only tries to answer the natural follow up question "Why does it need > a cronjob then?" and explains why I don't think anymore that a switch to > incron should be

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

2012-04-30 Thread George Danchev
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 17:11:21 +0300, Uoti Urpala wrote: Dmitry Nezhevenko wrote: On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 02:44:42PM +0300, Uoti Urpala wrote: > Wrong. Any program behavior change may require changing custom > configuration, but such changes need not be accompanied by changes in > the default co

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

2012-04-30 Thread George Danchev
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 14:44:42 +0300, Uoti Urpala wrote: Hi, Dmitry Nezhevenko wrote: On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 01:49:57AM +0300, Uoti Urpala wrote: > Marco d'Itri wrote: > > - configuration files in /etc/ overriding configuration files in /lib/, > > to work around the inferior configuration

Re: switching from exim to postfix

2012-04-29 Thread George Danchev
On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 12:05:06 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 28 apr 12, 19:12:42, Russ Allbery wrote: There's nothing particularly wrong with Exim; it works just fine. It's been the default in Debian for years, and it's actively maintained upstream. And it's completely trivial to repla

Re: Distribution and support for Debian-502-i386-netinst

2011-12-04 Thread George Danchev
On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 12:38:35 +, Ian Campbell wrote: On Sat, 2011-12-03 at 19:35 +, Philipp Kern wrote: On 2011-12-03, Marc Haber wrote: > On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 18:58:55 + (UTC), Philipp Kern > wrote: >>On 2011-12-02, Marc Haber wrote: >>> I also support this and think it is a really

Re: massive bug report to replace hardcoded "kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64" with "kfreebsd-any" (where suitable)

2011-07-18 Thread George Danchev
On Sunday, July 17, 2011 01:06:55 AM Robert Millan wrote: Hi, > This one affects only 22 packages: > > argyll cdparanoia checkinstall cyrus-imapd-2.2 cyrus-imapd-2.4 > dvd+rw-tools freeglut icecc k3b k8temp kolab-cyrus-imapd libburn > libcdio libgtop2 libisoburn libsysactivity mtx oss-libsalsa q

Re: 0-day NMUs for RC bugs without activity for 7 days?

2011-05-09 Thread George Danchev
On Saturday 07 May 2011 15:14:59 Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, 07 May 2011, Jakub Wilk wrote: > > This works both ways. If a NMUer uploaded my package without a delay > > and without a good reason[0], I want to be able to yell at him „you > > are a jerk (according to Developers Referenc

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-07 Thread George Danchev
On Saturday 07 May 2011 09:41:34 Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hi, Hi, > On Fri, 06 May 2011, George Danchev wrote: > > * writing a meaningful ITP helps to grab attention, especially if there > > are multiple alternatives. Prove your point (ref: I'm upstream and I > >

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 06 May 2011 20:30:32 Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 20:03 +0300, George Danchev wrote: > > On Friday 06 May 2011 19:39:26 Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > > > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:24 -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: > > > > On 05/06/2011

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 06 May 2011 19:39:26 Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:24 -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: > > On 05/06/2011 12:14 PM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > > > Q: How many content management systems written in php does Debian need? > > > A: How about zero? > > > > > > Not exactl

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-30 Thread George Danchev
On Saturday 30 April 2011 17:36:09 Mehdi Dogguy wrote: > On 04/30/2011 04:24 PM, George Danchev wrote: > >> - add a new 'frozen' suite, used only during freezes, to prepare > >> the next stable release > > > > So, if I need to fix an RC bug during th

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-30 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 29 April 2011 11:46:30 Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 29/04/11 at 10:23 +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > > 2. In the past there used to be two rather opposites use-cases of > > testing: some (luckely more than just the release team) see it as a tool > > to develop stable. Others see it (mostly)

Re: MBF alert: packages with very long source / .deb filenames

2011-04-10 Thread George Danchev
On Sunday 10 April 2011 20:19:42 Toni Mueller wrote: Hi, On Fri, 25.03.2011 at 14:17:06 +, Steve McIntyre wrote: > If we really want to meet the spec, we should be aiming for < 64 > characters, but that affects 98 packages and I'm not *too* bothered > > about it since testing shows no is

Re: Bindv6only once again

2010-06-15 Thread George Danchev
Jarek Kamiński writes: > Na grupie linux.debian.devel napisałe(a)ś: > >> I see only two ways of fixing proprietary Java (apart from fixing it > >> upstream or ignoring the problem): > >> * wrap java and java_vm binaries in some scripts setting LD_PRELOAD (in > >> > >> Debian package) > >> > >>

Re: Default value of net.ipv6.bindv6only should revert to 0

2010-04-13 Thread George Danchev
Quoting "Salvo Tomaselli" : On Tuesday 13 April 2010 07:46:10 Russ Allbery wrote: It's not an assumption. It's reality that one has to write code against, because different platforms do different things. Even if you could remove the option from the Linux kernel (retroactively, changing time t

Re: Default value of net.ipv6.bindv6only should revert to 0

2010-04-12 Thread George Danchev
Salvo Tomaselli writes: > On Monday 12 April 2010 20:12:36 Russ Allbery wrote: > > Marco is not changing the point. What Marco describes has been the > > objection that several of us have had with bindv6only=0 from the very > > beginning. He's just more persistant about continuing to repeat the s

common maintainer mailing list for low-level burning apps and libs

2010-01-30 Thread George Danchev
Hi, Hereby I would like to propose usage of common mailing list (debburn-devel) for all the packages involved in low-level burning and image manipulation process. As of now all they have their lists on alioth, which is somewhat suboptimal in my opinion and there is room to avoid unnecessary subs

Re: Increasing developer productivity through tools

2010-01-03 Thread George Danchev
Florian Weimer writes: > Have you got any suggestions for increasing productivity with proper > IDE support for medium-sized C and C++ code bases? > > I've got a hunch that proper browsing support (searching for > definitions/references, displaying static call trees) might help me to > navigate un

Re: package hierarchy system

2009-12-26 Thread George Danchev
Ivan Borzenkov writes: > This document covers very useful improvement of Debian apt system - the > package hierarchy system. This system can help end user make it's difficult > choice which packet he have to install. The main feature is to hide > unnecessary packages to concentrate user's attention

Re: Attracting new volunteers to Debian using stackoverflow.com

2009-12-22 Thread George Danchev
Tom Feiner writes: > On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Harry Rickards wrote: > > 2009/12/20 Tom Feiner : > >> Hi, > >> > >> stackoverflow.com, which is a website featuring questions and answers on > >> a wide range of topics in computer programming, has just offered [1] > >> free advertising for o

Re: [RFC] DEP-6: Meta-Package debian/control field

2009-12-21 Thread George Danchev
David Paleino writes: > Rene Engelhard wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 05:00:35PM +0100, David Paleino wrote: > >> However, seems like on IRC we reached kind of a consensus on the fact > >> that metapackages should use Recommends instead of Depends. I plan to do > >> a mass- bug filing on this i

Re: [RFC] DEP-6: Meta-Package debian/control field

2009-12-21 Thread George Danchev
Rene Engelhard writes: > On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 05:00:35PM +0100, David Paleino wrote: > > However, seems like on IRC we reached kind of a consensus on the fact > > that metapackages should use Recommends instead of Depends. I plan to do > > a mass- bug filing on this issue sooner or later, just n

Re: [RFC] DEP-6: Meta-Package debian/control field

2009-12-20 Thread George Danchev
Eugene V. Lyubimkin writes: > Hello, > > David Paleino wrote: > > Implementation > > [...] > > > ### Package managers ### > > [...] > > > If any dependant package is a meta-package, as defined by this > > document, it should **NOT** be removed, opposed to what the current > > implementations d

Re: leftover /usr/X11R6 references

2009-11-21 Thread George Danchev
Quoting "Michal Čihař" : Hi Dne Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:10:54 +0600 Mikhail Gusarov napsal(a): Twas brillig at 03:00:27 21.11.2009 UTC+01 when ni...@debian.org did gyre and gimble: >> There are probably more references total than can be sensibly removed, >> but perhaps it would be worth a

Re: What is this rule for?

2009-09-29 Thread George Danchev
> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, George Danchev wrote: > > True. However, it makes no big difference whether people use (or > > resp. abuse) file extensions to claim the language a program is > > implemented in, or they do it within the base name. There are plenty > > of apps

Re: What is this rule for?

2009-09-29 Thread George Danchev
> Ben Finney dijo [Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:40:46PM +1000]: > > > > On the other hand, Section 10.4 says only "the script name should not > > > > include an extension". So you can leave the extension for > > > > > > What is the intention of this rule anyway? > > > > To encourage command names (and

Re: renamings to remove extensions

2009-09-29 Thread George Danchev
Quoting "Josselin Mouette" : Le mardi 29 septembre 2009 à 11:43 +0200, Mike Hommey a écrit : Improving quality only for the sake of it is not necessarily a good idea. I do agree that if everyone but Debian expects foo to be called as foo.pl, there is a bug in Debian. Which is why lintian warn

Re: Fields used in packages

2009-09-26 Thread George Danchev
> George Danchev writes: > > >> Autobuild should probably go into Policy. It's used for non-free > >> packages to indicate that it's legal for the buildds to build the > >> packages. > >> > >> Original-Maintainer is odd -- Ubuntu use

Re: Fields used in packages

2009-09-26 Thread George Danchev
> George Danchev writes: > > > Candidates for policy so far: > > http://people.debian.org/~danchev/survey/sorted/4policy > > (Multi-Arch field added) > > Oh, good, that's less than I thought there would be. IMO, standardized fields (non-XBSC) are qui

Re: Fields used in packages

2009-09-26 Thread George Danchev
> George Danchev writes: > > > Okay, that sounds reasonable, provided all non-user-defined fields are > > standard, or otherwise illegal. Another standard field (i.e. non-X[BSC] > > ) I found is `Bugs'; seems they are hinting someone or something like > > BTS

Re: Fields used in packages

2009-09-26 Thread George Danchev
> George Danchev writes: > > > So, the question being: from where to start documenting and sorting > > these out: policy, dpkg/doc/, devref, wiki, blogs ;-), somewhere else. > > Standardized fields should be documented in Policy. Patches and > contributions ar

Re: Fields used in packages

2009-09-25 Thread George Danchev
> George Danchev wrote: > > You are correct, I missed these either because dpkg-scanpackages has not > > been invoked with -tudeb or udebs are not built for the official > > archive. > > They are in the official archive, but in separate sections (with their own &

Re: Fields used in packages

2009-09-25 Thread George Danchev
> George Danchev wrote: > > I've recently done a little survey about the fields used in our control > > files (*_Release files excluded). Currently there are ~80 different > > fields [1] used in testing and unstable, which basically fall into these > > groups: >

Fields used in packages

2009-09-25 Thread George Danchev
Hi, I've recently done a little survey about the fields used in our control files (*_Release files excluded). Currently there are ~80 different fields [1] used in testing and unstable, which basically fall into these groups: 1) listed in debian policy and accompanied sub-policies (like Python

Re: Bug#544539: RFP: Linux Unified Kernel

2009-09-01 Thread George Danchev
Quoting "Patrick Matthäi" : Ivan Borzenkov schrieb: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org --- Please fill out the fields below. --- Package name: Linux Unified Kernel Version: 0.2.4-1 Upstream Author: Insigma li...@insigma.com.cn URL:

Re: Bug#540247: ITP: abi-compliance-checker -- tool for checking binary compatibility of shared libraries (was: Re: backward/forward binary compatibility checker)

2009-08-06 Thread George Danchev
--cut-- > > The wiki-page with the latest release of binary compatibility checker > > is http://ispras.linux-foundation.org/index.php/ABI_compliance_checker > > This looks like an extremely useful piece of software (in the past > I've thought "I wish there were a tool to do this" :)). I'll pack

Re: Debian, universal operating system?

2009-07-26 Thread George Danchev
Quoting "Ron Johnson" : On 2009-07-26 17:00, Miles Bader wrote: Chris Lamb writes: Agreed. IMHO, it is one of those phrases (along with "Our priority is our users") that actually means extremely little in practice, except for generating lots of hot air with nobody agreeing. "Our priority is

Re: Better tracebacks for C/C++ (and probably Ada & Fortran, too)

2009-07-26 Thread George Danchev
Hi, > I've built a small proof-of-concept library which creates Java-style > tracebacks for C and C++ programs. In contrast to libc's backtrace() > function, it uses DWARF debugging information when available, so the > output is generally quite useful. Debugging information is extracted > from t

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-03-02 Thread George Danchev
On Monday 02 March 2009 19:59:00 Bill Unruh wrote: --cut-- > Agreed, both sides have to come to the conclusion that they are operating > legally. On the plus side, Schilling would like to have his software > distributed in the distros. He is also strongly of the opinion that there > is no legal imp

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-03-02 Thread George Danchev
Quoting Josselin Mouette : Le dimanche 01 mars 2009 à 22:25 -0800, Bill Unruh a écrit : The issue is one of the users. They do not give a damn if Schilling is a difficult and arrogant SOB or if the Debian people put principle above all else. They just want good software, which works, not just o

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-03-01 Thread George Danchev
On Sunday 01 March 2009 23:31:21 Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2009-02-26 12:46:25, schrieb Brett Parker: > > As someone that uses wodim quite a bit, I've not noticed it to be "full > > of bugs", so I'd suggest that you're spreading FUD and hoping that no > > one notices. > > I have 35 TEAC CD-Burne

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-03-01 Thread George Danchev
On Sunday 01 March 2009 18:31:36 Joerg Schilling wrote: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news-team/2009-February/000413.h > >tml > > I prefer to listen to credible statements. > > The only true claim in the quoted text is that Mark Shuttleworth did stop > his attempt to switch to c

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-02-27 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 27 February 2009 21:29:01 Reinhard Tartler wrote: > Kalle Kivimaa writes: > > If you feel that the SFLC's opinion is wrong, you are of course free > > to provide us with competent legal advice countering SFLC's opinion. > > opinions can only be proven right or wrong in court. It seems th

Re: percentage of popcon submitters

2009-01-16 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 16 January 2009 15:42:38 Neil Williams wrote: > On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:21:29 + > > Neil Williams wrote: > > In that case, I'm probably responsible to thousands of 'installations' > > OK, that's an exaggeration but it's certainly hundreds since Etch. This is true, but I imagine that

Re: dpkg-source argument to ignore .git subdirectory

2009-01-11 Thread George Danchev
On Sunday 11 January 2009 20:39:33 Florian Weimer wrote: > There seems to be some confusion what's the correct way to ignore only > the .git subdirectory (and not anything else gittish, which might have > been present in the .diff.gz before). > > Has anybody come up with a proper regexp for -i? Wo

Re: mass bug filing for undefined sn?printf use

2009-01-01 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 02 January 2009 05:04:08 Russ Allbery wrote: > "Paul Wise" writes: > > On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 3:50 AM, Kees Cook wrote: > >> Oh! Good catch, thank you. I've started a re-run with the regex > >> changed. So far, it's already caught new stuff. I'll post updated > >> details once it ha

Re: Adoption of Nix?

2008-12-24 Thread George Danchev
On Wednesday 24 December 2008 18:55:20 Steve Kemp wrote: > > > Yes, you are probably right: I don't understand how Nix may be useful > > > for Debian (and for GNU/Linux also). > > > > That's too bad for you. Shallow thinking doesn't get you anywhere. > > As promoter/recommender surely the onus is

Re: Gtk1.2/Imlib/gnome-lib packages (Long)

2008-12-19 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 19 December 2008 21:07:09 Daniel Leidert wrote: > Am Mittwoch, den 17.12.2008, 12:03 -0500 schrieb Barry deFreese: > > Hi folks, > > > > Just in case anyone cares/is interested, here is some work I have been > > doing on packages using Gtk1.2, Imlib, gnome-libs, or any combination > > the

Re: Packages still depending on GTK+ 1.2

2008-12-07 Thread George Danchev
On Saturday 06 December 2008 23:15:06 Klaus Ethgen wrote: > Am Sa den 6. Dez 2008 um 21:38 schrieb Daniel Moerner: > > xmms is gone: > > It is still in stable and there are many installations. More than 7000 > in popcon. And there is still no alternative. IMHO audacious is a pretty decent alterna

Re: NEW processing

2008-12-03 Thread George Danchev
On Wednesday 03 December 2008 22:01:45 Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 03/12/08 at 19:52 +0200, George Danchev wrote: > > I'm afraid that skipping the 3rd thing `trying to reduce the number of > > bugs in Debian' [1] would lead to a massive waste of time for > > autobuil

Re: NEW processing

2008-12-03 Thread George Danchev
On Wednesday 03 December 2008 20:35:11 Clint Adams wrote: > On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 07:52:06PM +0200, George Danchev wrote: > > I'm afraid that skipping the 3rd thing `trying to reduce the number of > > bugs in Debian' [1] would lead to a massive waste of time for > &g

Re: NEW processing

2008-12-03 Thread George Danchev
On Wednesday 03 December 2008 19:28:04 Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 03/12/08 at 17:21 +, Mark Brown wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 06:18:59PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > I'm not advocating that we just stop doing reviews. But IMHO, NEW > > > processing should be about the legal problem

Re: screenshots.debian.net

2008-11-17 Thread George Danchev
On Monday 17 November 2008 18:13:55 Daniel Burrows wrote: --cut-- > > There is one. It uses the HTTP protocol. :) Just do an HTTP POST request > > and send the three fields like in the upload form. > > Err...when I go to upload I get a webform, not a URL to point to? How > do I generate an "HTTP

Re: Proposal: user-visible list of divergences from upstream

2008-09-09 Thread George Danchev
On Tuesday 09 September 2008 14:53:16 Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: > Ben Finney wrote: [snip] > > Only by getting the package and unpacking it (as I'm sure you know, > > the package can be unpacked and inspected without installing it). > > Both these methods require: > 1) knowledge about where to loo

Re: RFC: Java (JAR) desktop integration/admin tool

2008-07-13 Thread George Danchev
On Sunday 13 July 2008 17:15:01 RalfGesellensetter wrote: > Dear list, Hello, > especially in educational settings, there is an increasing pool of > platform independent Java applications (JARs) that can be integrated in > users' desktops. > > While Java JDK is freed nowadays, those JAR files are

Re: what about an special QA package priority?

2008-05-23 Thread George Danchev
On Saturday 24 May 2008, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Fri, 23 May 2008, Luciano Bello wrote: --cut-- > > Of course at first is not easy. But we should go to an scenario > > where all the local patches was reported to upstream (to apply them > > in the next release) or be justified by more than one dev

Re: divergence from upstream as a bug

2008-05-19 Thread George Danchev
On Sunday 18 May 2008, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > The diff.gz contains all the changes including the debian dir. It is > > by no means obvious if there are patches in there or not. > > I think reading a debian diff is the every day job of DD and DAs. And

Re: divergence from upstream as a bug

2008-05-18 Thread George Danchev
On Sunday 18 May 2008, Bastian Blank wrote: --cut-- > | $ md5sum dist* > | 7417436d2d0cbe9322d7503041c2e2df [EMAIL PROTECTED] > | b959d34e40b01303e98a6b85255dd92d dist_3.70.orig.tar.gz > | $ mkdir 1 2 > | $ tar -C 1 -xzf [EMAIL PROTECTED] > | $ tar -C 2 -xzf dist_3.70.orig.tar.gz > | $ diff -urN

Re: divergence from upstream as a bug

2008-05-18 Thread George Danchev
On Sunday 18 May 2008, Russ Allbery wrote: --cut-- > Isn't this already the case in practice? Do you really see many Debian > packages that have modified *.orig.tar.gz tarballs? And if so, have you > filed bugs? Sorry for the delay, but now I saw that Don Armstrong also asked such a question,

Re: divergence from upstream as a bug

2008-05-18 Thread George Danchev
On Sunday 18 May 2008, Ben Finney wrote: > George Danchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > You seem to forgot that people will actually work with the source > > code and actual patches applied to it, not with a bunch of patches > > floating in Debian BTS with not

Re: divergence from upstream as a bug

2008-05-18 Thread George Danchev
On Sunday 18 May 2008, Ben Finney wrote: > Again, the BTS is not "yet another place"; it's already a place where > Debian-specific information needs to be about other changes to the > package. It's a proposal to *consolidate* information into a place > that already has much similar information for

Re: How to handle Debian patches

2008-05-18 Thread George Danchev
On Sunday 18 May 2008, Mike Hommey wrote: --cut-- > > You don't have to check it in revision control, you just have to be able > > to generate them from revision control. > > > > For .diff.gz, we already have tools to handle such files properly > > (without duplicating their content), it's called q

Re: divergence from upstream as a bug

2008-05-18 Thread George Danchev
On Sunday 18 May 2008, Ben Finney wrote: > Please follow http://www.debian.org/MailingLists#codeofconduct> > and avoid sending messages individually to someone when the message is > also sent to the list, unless they ask for it. > > Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Sun, May 18, 20

Re: divergence from upstream as a bug

2008-05-18 Thread George Danchev
On Sunday 18 May 2008, Ben Finney wrote: > George Danchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I strongly believe that [...] there is no any urgent need for more > > infrastrucre enhancements and yet another places to look at (like > > teaching BTS/PTS of doing additiona

Re: divergence from upstream as a bug

2008-05-17 Thread George Danchev
On Sunday 18 May 2008, Joey Hess wrote: > What if we just decide that changes made to upstream sources[1] qualify > as a bug? A change might be a bug in upstream, or in the debianisation, > or in Debian for requiring the change. But just call it a bug. > Everything else follows from that quite natu

Re: How to handle Debian patches

2008-05-17 Thread George Danchev
On Saturday 17 May 2008, Joey Hess wrote: > George Danchev wrote: > > Then comes even more, even Ben Laurie (as he writes in > > his blog) with all his aggression missed to find the debian's pkg-openssl > > VCS repo [1] unless he has been helped by someone at some poin

Re: How to handle Debian patches

2008-05-17 Thread George Danchev
On Saturday 17 May 2008, Vincent Untz wrote: > Le samedi 17 mai 2008, à 15:24 +0200, Pierre Habouzit a écrit : > > On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 12:07:43PM +, Vincent Untz wrote: > > > [I'm not subscribed to debian-devel, so feel free to cc me if you want > > > to keep me in the loop] > > > > done. >

Re: How to handle Debian patches

2008-05-16 Thread George Danchev
On Saturday 17 May 2008, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Sat, 17 May 2008 00:19:59 +0300, George Danchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > I personally don't think there is any need for new infrastrutures. We > > only need to follow some simple rules, i.e. orig.tar.gz should

Re: How to handle Debian patches

2008-05-16 Thread George Danchev
On Saturday 17 May 2008, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Fri, 16 May 2008 23:27:03 +0300, George Danchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > On Friday 16 May 2008, Joey Hess wrote: > >> Raphael Hertzog wrote: > >> > I totally agree that we need to make our changes more

Re: How to handle Debian patches

2008-05-16 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 16 May 2008, Joey Hess wrote: > Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Le vendredi 16 mai 2008 à 16:04 -0400, Joey Hess a écrit : > > > You're insinuatiog that a VCS does not allow easily browsing and > > > examining patches, and I just don't buy it. > > > > I can do more than insinuating: a VCS doe

Re: How to handle Debian patches

2008-05-16 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 16 May 2008, Joey Hess wrote: > Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > I totally agree that we need to make our changes more visible. In the > > openssl case, the patch in question is inside the .diff.gz and you don't > > notice it in the unpacked source package. I tend to give a look to what's > > i

Re: Need information

2007-12-24 Thread George Danchev
On Monday 24 December 2007, Jean-Christian BEDIER wrote: > Hi, Hi Jean-Christian, > I subscribe on this mailling list a few weeks ago because i wanted to know > a solution for publish my .deb on real debian mirror. You need to contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead and try to find a sponsor (officia

Re: gcc-snapshot for testing

2007-12-14 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 14 December 2007, Dmitry E. Oboukhov wrote: Hi, > I needed to test the building of one of my packages with gcc4.3. > However it turns out that gcc-snapshot from unstable contains the critical > bug, which makes impossible using it. At the same time the previous > version of the gcc-snap

Re: [RFC] new virtual package names for optical discs burning applications

2006-11-18 Thread George Danchev
On Saturday 18 November 2006 11:33, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > On Friday 17 November 2006 15:22, George Danchev wrote: > > * `cd-burner' -- could be provided by wodim, cdrskin, (cdrdao ?) > > * `dvd-burner' -- could be provided by wodim, dvd+rw-tools and

Re: [RFC] new virtual package names for optical discs burning applications

2006-11-18 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 17 November 2006 16:44, Loïc Minier wrote: > On Fri, Nov 17, 2006, George Danchev wrote: > > Using alternatives mechanism -- currently I don't think that using > > alternatives mechanism would be a benefit as a whole, but I might be > > blind of course. &g

[RFC] new virtual package names for optical discs burning applications

2006-11-17 Thread George Danchev
Hello, With the advent of cdrskin [1] for writing CD-R/W in a cdrecord's command-line-compatible way and already having several dvd burner applications, I'd like to propose the addition of at least two more virtual package names to the `Authoritative list of virtual package names' [2] -

Re: More accurate package classification

2006-11-02 Thread George Danchev
On Thursday 02 November 2006 12:36, Mgr. Peter Tuharsky wrote: > Hi all Hello, > Sometimes I spend hours just reading Debian's package repository, and > everytime I found interesting packages. The Debian is extremely large > and juicy, but in contrary, it is really difficult sometimes to ju

Re: Media players in Debian (was: new mplayer)

2006-09-22 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 22 September 2006 13:29, César Martínez Izquierdo wrote: > I could never see a whole film using Totem or VLC (from Debian). That is interesting assertion. I have very good experience with vlc here. Did you report your issue to the BTS ? > I do, with mplayer (from Marillat). In fact, I'

Re: Debian cares more about documents than people

2006-09-22 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 22 September 2006 00:42, alfredo diega wrote: > On 9/21/06, Thaddeus H. Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I ask you, is that > > fair? > > Well, I guess it isn't fair. Look, have any of you ever sent an email out > of > frustration, then wish you could take it back? I am sorry, I h

Re: udev upgrade lead to an unbootable debian unstable

2006-09-12 Thread George Danchev
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 17:43, Ruben wrote: > On 9/12/06, Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sep 12, Ruben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm sorry if this is a somewhat inappropriate place to post this, but > > > > You should be more sorry about posting without reading the other

Re: Why not only support Sid and Testing?

2006-09-12 Thread George Danchev
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 11:08, Marc Haber wrote: > On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 22:08:02 -0600, Joseph Smidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > I know I am in for an argument, but I think it is a good > >question. I'm sure many of you have read Mark's blog: > >http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archi

Re: Why not only support Sid and Testing?

2006-09-11 Thread George Danchev
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 07:08, Joseph Smidt wrote: > I know I am in for an argument, but I think it is a good > question. I'm sure many of you have read Mark's blog: > http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/56. It says 76% of Debian > users run unstable and probably a fair fraction o

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