Re: Salsa - best thing in Debian in recent years? (Re: finally end single-person maintainership)

2024-05-20 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 04:11:02AM +0900, Simon Richter wrote: > > My concern about Gitlab is not its *additions* to existing services, but > > its *duplications* of core services already in Debian. > > I agree, that's the key problem. > > The Debian archive itself is a VCS, so git-maintained pac

Re: finally end single-person maintainership

2024-05-20 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 12:32:52AM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > > > All these things should make it much more easy for other people or > > > automated tools to send merge requests or keep maintaining a > > > package in > > > case the original maintainer becomes MIA. > > > > > > Mandating a speci

Re: About i386 support

2024-05-20 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 07:16:54PM -0300, Leandro Cunha wrote: > > > > which is good news. The end of support for 32 bits will not > > > > affect the lives of almost anyone who has machines purchased after > > > > 2011 and who bought them after that > > > > > > Does this also mean he support for ar

Re: finally end single-person maintainership

2024-05-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Simon Richter writes: > A better approach would not treat Debian metadata as git data. Even the > most vocal advocate of switching everything to Salsa writes in his MR > that the changelog should not be touched in a commit, because it creates > conflicts, and instead a manual step will need to be

Re: finally end single-person maintainership

2024-05-20 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, On 5/21/24 10:43, Luca Boccassi wrote: The ecosystem, however, does not support our workflows, and adapting it to do that is even more effort than maintaining our own tools. [...] That's a problem of our workflows, which are horrible. The solution is not to double down on them. Our wor

Re: finally end single-person maintainership

2024-05-20 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi Simon! > > A better approach would not treat Debian metadata as git data. Even the > > most vocal advocate of switching everything to Salsa writes in his MR > > that the changelog should not be touched in a commit, because it creates > > conflicts, and instead a manual step will need to be perf

Re: Bug#1071528: ITP: hardinfo2 -- Hardinfo2 offers System Information and Benchmark for Linux Systems

2024-05-20 Thread Lucas Castro
Em 20/05/2024 22:53, xiao sheng wen(肖盛文) escreveu: Hi,   I had report bug #1070830[1], hardinfo package change upstream repo to hardinfo2 also is a better way. IMHO, hardinfo2 only is the new version of hardinfo, it's not necessary to ITP a new hardinfo2 src package in Debian. The new versi

Re: Bug#1071528: ITP: hardinfo2 -- Hardinfo2 offers System Information and Benchmark for Linux Systems

2024-05-20 Thread 肖盛文
Hi,   I had report bug #1070830[1], hardinfo package change upstream repo to hardinfo2 also is a better way. IMHO, hardinfo2 only is the new version of hardinfo, it's not necessary to ITP a new hardinfo2 src package in Debian. The new version has a new binary package named hardinfo2 is no p

Re: finally end single-person maintainership

2024-05-20 Thread Luca Boccassi
On Tue, 21 May 2024 at 02:08, Simon Richter wrote: > > Hi, > > On 5/21/24 07:43, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > > > Also its a gitlab instance. There are all kinds of documentation, > > tutorials, videos and software for/about gitlab, including lots of > > beginner friendly options. There is a whole ecosy

Re: finally end single-person maintainership

2024-05-20 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, On 5/21/24 07:43, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: Also its a gitlab instance. There are all kinds of documentation, tutorials, videos and software for/about gitlab, including lots of beginner friendly options. There is a whole ecosystem around gitlab, it does not depend on a few (two?) developers. T

Re: finally end single-person maintainership

2024-05-20 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On Thu, 2024-04-11 at 22:52 +, Bill Allombert wrote: > > When a change leads to a RC bug a month or three after having be > part of a package, fixing the problem falls on the maintainer and not > on the change author. Even correct changes can trigger latent bugs > in software. Yet another re

Re: finally end single-person maintainership

2024-05-20 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On Wed, 2024-04-10 at 23:16 +0200, Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues wrote: > Quoting Andreas Tille (2024-04-10 22:44:25) > > > I do understand the argument that lots of different workflows > > > adds > > > friction. But I'm just still using what used to be _the_ standard > > > one > > > (insofar as

Re: finally end single-person maintainership

2024-05-20 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On Tue, 2024-04-09 at 20:51 +0200, Gioele Barabucci wrote: > > Salsa is a forge, i.e. a combination of a Web interface, a git > server, > and a set of integrated features. In comparison to dgit, salsa has, > like > most forges: > > [] Also its a gitlab instance. There are all kinds of docu

Re: finally end single-person maintainership

2024-05-20 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On Mon, 2024-05-20 at 20:47 +, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > > > All these things should make it much more easy for other people or > > automated tools to send merge requests or keep maintaining a > > package in > > case the original maintainer becomes MIA. > > > Mandating a specific git layout

Re: About i386 support

2024-05-20 Thread Leandro Cunha
On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 6:11 PM Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > > On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 10:57:58PM +0200, William Bonnet wrote: > > > which is good news. The end of support for 32 bits will not > > > affect the lives of almost anyone who has machines purchased after > > > 2011 and who bought them a

Re: About i386 support

2024-05-20 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 10:57:58PM +0200, William Bonnet wrote: > > which is good news. The end of support for 32 bits will not > > affect the lives of almost anyone who has machines purchased after > > 2011 and who bought them after that > > Does this also mean he support for armhf will be droppe

Re: About i386 support

2024-05-20 Thread William Bonnet
Hi all On 20/05/2024 22:27, Leandro Cunha wrote: which is good news. The end of support for 32 bits will not affect the lives of almost anyone who has machines purchased after 2011 and who bought them after that Does this also mean he support for armhf will be dropped ? Cheers William Ope

Re: finally end single-person maintainership

2024-05-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On May 20, 2024 7:54:46 PM UTC, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: >Hi, > >On Sun, 2024-04-07 at 16:44 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: >> >> Do you think that mandating Salsa is a sensible step in this >> direction? > > >Absolutely. > >Also I think requiring a common git layout and the usage of recent >versions

Re: About i386 support

2024-05-20 Thread Leandro Cunha
Hello, On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 5:15 PM Paul Gevers wrote: > > Hi, > > On 20-05-2024 4:50 p.m., Ben Hutchings wrote: > > There is a tension here between the interests of (a) users that want to > > run proprietary i386 binaries on 64-bit CPUs, and (b) those who want to > > keep using 32-bit CPUs.

Bug#1071540: ITP: lua-vips -- A fast image processing library with low memory needs for Lua

2024-05-20 Thread Jérémy Lal
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jérémy Lal X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, The Debian Lua Team * Package name: lua-vips Version : 1.1.11 Upstream Contact: John Cupitt * URL : https://github.com/libvips/lua-vips * License : Expat Progra

Re: About i386 support

2024-05-20 Thread Paul Gevers
Hi, On 20-05-2024 4:50 p.m., Ben Hutchings wrote: There is a tension here between the interests of (a) users that want to run proprietary i386 binaries on 64-bit CPUs, and (b) those who want to keep using 32-bit CPUs. If i386 is meant for group (a) then the baseline should be raised to include

Re: Any volunteers for lintian co-maintenance?

2024-05-20 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! > > If I am successful, then lintian can specialize its efforts into issues only > > visible in packaged artifacts and thereby reduce it scope a bit. > > Perfect. I'd love to have some policy checking at "the right point in > time". I'd love to support this but as far as I understand even yo

Re: finally end single-person maintainership

2024-05-20 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Hi, On Sun, 2024-04-07 at 16:44 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > > Do you think that mandating Salsa is a sensible step in this > direction? Absolutely. Also I think requiring a common git layout and the usage of recent versions of dh should be required. Using merge requests instead of sending pa

Bug#1071529: ITP: vim-link-vim -- move links out of the way

2024-05-20 Thread Matthias Geiger
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Matthias Geiger X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, team+...@tracker.debian.org, werdah...@riseup.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 * Package name: vim-link-vim Version : 1.0.3+git20240514 Upstream Contact: qadze

Re: About i386 support

2024-05-20 Thread defrag mentation
On Mon, 20 May 2024 00:30:13 +0200, Thomas Goirand wrote: > For example, *I* don't care at all about 32 bits arch, and would prefer if > these were to be sent to ports.debian.org. I really mean *all* 32 bits arch, > including armhf for example. I agree with you. No one really needs armel(armv5

Bug#1071528: ITP: hardinfo2 -- Hardinfo2 offers System Information and Benchmark for Linux Systems

2024-05-20 Thread Lucas Castro
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Lucas Castro X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: hardinfo2 Version : 2.1.2 Upstream Contact: Name * URL : https://hardinfo2.org/ * License : GPL-2 Programming Lang: C Description : Hardinf

Re: About i386 support

2024-05-20 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2024-05-20 at 13:39 +0200, Ansgar 🙀 wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, 2024-05-19 at 10:30 -0500, r...@neoquasar.org wrote: > > I have an N270 system I can use to contribute, if someone is willing > > to explain what I need to do to make it useful.  > > > > From: Victor Gamper > > Sent: Sunday, Ma

Bug#1071522: ITP: paping -- Test network connection between two hosts

2024-05-20 Thread Rony Joao de Sousa
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rony Joao de Sousa X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: paping Version : 1.6.0 Upstream Contact: Mike Lovell * URL : https://github.com/ronyjdesousa/paping * License : MIT Programming Lang: C++

Re: About i386 support

2024-05-20 Thread Ansgar 🙀
Hi, On Sun, 2024-05-19 at 10:30 -0500, r...@neoquasar.org wrote: > I have an N270 system I can use to contribute, if someone is willing > to explain what I need to do to make it useful.  > > From: Victor Gamper > Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2024 08:03 > To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re:

Re: Salsa - best thing in Debian in recent years? (Re: finally end single-person maintainership)

2024-05-20 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 08:38:58PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Sun, 19 May 2024, Bill Allombert wrote: > > Also debbugs is a special case: > > The debbugs Debian package (as opposed to the debbugs software) have never > > been > > really maintained. I am actually one of the very few users of

Bug#1071507: ITP: sensor-state-data -- Models for storing and converting Sensor Data state

2024-05-20 Thread Edward Betts
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Edward Betts X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-pyt...@lists.debian.org * Package name: sensor-state-data Version : 2.18.0 Upstream Author : J. Nick Koston * URL : https://github.com/bluetooth-devices/sensor-sta

Bug#1071503: ITP: python-srptools -- Tools to implement Secure Remote Password (SRP) authentication

2024-05-20 Thread Edward Betts
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Edward Betts X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-pyt...@lists.debian.org * Package name: python-srptools Version : 1.0.1 Upstream Author : Igor `idle sign` Starikov * URL : https://github.com/idlesign/srptools *

Bug#1071500: ITP: unicode-rbnf -- Rule-based number formatting using Unicode CLDR data

2024-05-20 Thread Edward Betts
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Edward Betts X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-pyt...@lists.debian.org * Package name: unicode-rbnf Version : 1.1.0 Upstream Author : Michael Hansen * URL : https://github.com/rhasspy/unicode-rbnf * License

gzip --rsyncable (was: Re: De-vendoring gnulib in Debian packages)

2024-05-20 Thread Simon Josefsson
"Theodore Ts'o" writes: > On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 04:27:06PM +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote: >> Going into detail, you use 'gzip -9n' but I use git-archive defaults >> which is the same as -n aka --no-name. I agree adding -9 aka --best is >> an improvement. Gnulib's maint.mk also add --rsyncable,

Re: Salsa - best thing in Debian in recent years? (Re: finally end single-person maintainership)

2024-05-20 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
> > Ideally debbugs should be made non-native so that some else could > > maintain the Debian package. > > I'm happy to review patches that get the 2.6 branch of debbugs in shape > where it can be released into Debian again if someone wants to take that > effort. I've just assumed that anyone using

Re: Suggestions about i386 support

2024-05-20 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, 19 May 2024 20:19:12 +0200, Ben Hutchings wrote: >The plan is to keep i386 as a partial architecture that can be used as >a "foreign architecture" on systems where amd64 is the main >architecture. Many people using ancient hardware such as a T60 thinkpad say that's not enough for them. I