Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-02 Thread David Prévot
Hi, Le 03/10/2022 à 01:00, Lennart Sorensen a écrit : […] I can't think of ever having had to add anything, only change the release name. You’ll change your mind when you’ll upgrade to stable. https://www.debian.org/releases/bullseye/amd64/release-notes/ch-information#security-archive Regard

Bug#1021158: ITP: mrbuild -- Simple build system

2022-10-02 Thread Dima Kogan
Package: wnpp Owner: Dima Kogan Severity: wishlist * Package name: mrbuild Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Dima Kogan * URL or Web page : https://github.com/dkogan/mrbuild * License : MIT Description : Simple build system This is the build system for mrcal, mrgingh

Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-02 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Oct 03, 2022 at 12:33:20AM +0200, Mattia Rizzolo a écrit : > > I can live with an APT hook warning me if I have non-free but not > non-free-firmware, but I would prefer to even do without that. In addition, how about distributing the firmware in both 'non-free' and 'non-free-firmware' at

Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-02 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sun, Oct 02, 2022 at 08:21:31PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Two things: > > 1. I'm worried what bugs we might expose by having packages be in two > components at once. > 2. I really don't like the idea of leaving two different > configurations in the wild; it'll confuse people and

Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-02 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
On Mon, Oct 03, 2022 at 01:18:55AM +0300, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote: > вс, 2 окт. 2022 г. в 22:36, Steve Langasek : > > > So this is the one bit that I don't think we currently have a good > > > answer for. We've never had a specific script to run on upgrades (like > > > Ubuntu do), so this kind of po

Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-02 Thread Dmitry Baryshkov
Hello, вс, 2 окт. 2022 г. в 22:36, Steve Langasek : > > On Sun, Oct 02, 2022 at 03:53:00PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > >What's the plan for upgraded systems with an existing > > >/etc/apt/sources.list. > > >Will the new n-f-f section added on upgrades automatically(if non-free was > > >enabl

Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-02 Thread Thomas Goirand
Hi Steve, On 10/2/22 21:26, Steve Langasek wrote: I heartily endorse ubuntu-release-upgrader, it has been useful in addressing uncounted upgrade issues over the years and I think something like this would be a nice addition to Debian as well. Two caveats: - Despite this being the sanctioned

Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-02 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 10/2/22 22:02, Russ Allbery wrote: Michael Biebl writes: The main difference is, that the renaming caused an error message by apt, so you knew something needed to be fixed. One could argue that having non-free but not non-free-firmware is sufficiently strange that it would be worth a supp

Re: FTBS bugs -- MBF?

2022-10-02 Thread Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues
Hi, Quoting Lucas Nussbaum (2022-10-02 21:51:52) > On 02/10/22 at 04:23 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > > Nǐmen hǎo! > > I did another _source_ rebuild of the archive -- checking if every package > > is capable of repacking its source. Ie, if you can unpack it, (possibly > > modify), and pack again

Re: FTBS bugs -- MBF?

2022-10-02 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, Oct 02, 2022 at 09:51:52PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 02/10/22 at 04:23 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > > I did another _source_ rebuild of the archive -- checking if every package > > is capable of repacking its source. Ie, if you can unpack it, (possibly > > modify), and pack again.

Re: FTBS bugs -- MBF?

2022-10-02 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 02/10/22 at 04:23 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > Nǐmen hǎo! > I did another _source_ rebuild of the archive -- checking if every package > is capable of repacking its source. Ie, if you can unpack it, (possibly > modify), and pack again. > > Putting aside packages that are broken in other ways

Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Michael Biebl writes: > The main difference is, that the renaming caused an error message by > apt, so you knew something needed to be fixed. One could argue that having non-free but not non-free-firmware is sufficiently strange that it would be worth a suppressable apt warning (that you could t

Bug#1021151: ITP: setuptools-rust -- Plugin for setuptools to build Rust Python extensions

2022-10-02 Thread Edward Betts
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Edward Betts X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-pyt...@lists.debian.org * Package name: setuptools-rust Version : 1.5.2 Upstream Author : Nikolay Kim * URL : https://github.com/PyO3/setuptools-rust * License

Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Oct 02, 2022 at 03:53:00PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > >What's the plan for upgraded systems with an existing /etc/apt/sources.list. > >Will the new n-f-f section added on upgrades automatically(if non-free was > >enabled before)? > So this is the one bit that I don't think we currently

Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-02 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sun, Oct 02, 2022 at 11:08:47AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: >On Sun, Oct 02, 2022 at 03:53:00PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 02, 2022 at 04:43:47PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: >> > What's the plan for upgraded systems with an existing >> > /etc/apt/sources.list. >> > Will the new

Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-02 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sun, Oct 02, 2022 at 05:31:16PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: >Steve McIntyre (2022-10-02): >> * Extra d-i code to inform users about what firmware blobs have been >> loaded and the matching non-free-firmware packages. Plus information >> about the hardware involved. Maybe a new d-i module

Re: Q: uscan with GitHub

2022-10-02 Thread Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues
Hi, Quoting Paul Wise (2022-09-20 02:38:30) > On Mon, 2022-09-19 at 20:50 +0900, Hideki Yamane wrote: > > Recent changes in GitHub releases pages, I cannot check upstream > > version with uscan. How do you deal with it? > > If you are using the automatically generated tarballs, then > just switch

Re: Switch default from PulseAudio to PipeWire (and WirePlumber) for audio

2022-10-02 Thread Jonathan McDowell
On Sun, Oct 02, 2022 at 07:29:31PM +0100, Jonathan McDowell wrote: > On Thu, Sep 08, 2022 at 05:58:25PM +0200, Dylan Aïssi wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have been asked several times regarding when Debian will switch its > > default > > sound server from PulseAudio to PipeWire without having an offici

Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-02 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 02.10.22 um 20:14 schrieb Luca Boccassi: On Sun, 2022-10-02 at 10:52 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: will be very obvious.  But if you currently have non-free configured but don't add the new firmware section, everything will appear to work but you won't get new firmware, so the problem may go

Re: Switch default from PulseAudio to PipeWire (and WirePlumber) for audio

2022-10-02 Thread Jonathan McDowell
On Thu, Sep 08, 2022 at 05:58:25PM +0200, Dylan Aïssi wrote: > Hi, > > I have been asked several times regarding when Debian will switch its default > sound server from PulseAudio to PipeWire without having an official answer. > Thus, I suppose it's the right time to start a discussion about that.

Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-02 Thread Luca Boccassi
On Sun, 2022-10-02 at 10:52 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Shengjing Zhu writes: > > On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 10:53 PM Steve McIntyre > > wrote: > > > > So this is the one bit that I don't think we currently have a > > > good > > > answer for. We've never had a specific script to run on upgrades > >

Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-02 Thread The Wanderer
On 2022-10-02 at 13:52, Russ Allbery wrote: > Shengjing Zhu writes: > >> On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 10:53 PM Steve McIntyre >> wrote: > >>> So this is the one bit that I don't think we currently have a >>> good answer for. We've never had a specific script to run on >>> upgrades (like Ubuntu do),

Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Shengjing Zhu writes: > On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 10:53 PM Steve McIntyre wrote: >> So this is the one bit that I don't think we currently have a good >> answer for. We've never had a specific script to run on upgrades (like >> Ubuntu do), so this kind of potentially breaking change doesn't really

Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-02 Thread Shengjing Zhu
On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 10:53 PM Steve McIntyre wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 02, 2022 at 04:43:47PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > > > >Hi Steve, > > > >thanks for the update! > > > >Am 02.10.22 um 16:27 schrieb Steve McIntyre: > > > >> * Tweaks to add the non-free-firmware section in the apt-setup module

Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-02 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Steve McIntyre (2022-10-02): > * Extra d-i code to inform users about what firmware blobs have been > loaded and the matching non-free-firmware packages. Plus information > about the hardware involved. Maybe a new d-i module / udeb for this? > Exact details here still TBD. Probably the bigge

Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-02 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 10:53 AM Steve McIntyre wrote: > On Sun, Oct 02, 2022 at 04:43:47PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > >What's the plan for upgraded systems with an existing /etc/apt/sources.list. > >Will the new n-f-f section added on upgrades automatically(if non-free was > >enabled before)? >

Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Oct 02, 2022 at 03:53:00PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: On Sun, Oct 02, 2022 at 04:43:47PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: What's the plan for upgraded systems with an existing /etc/apt/sources.list. Will the new n-f-f section added on upgrades automatically(if non-free was enabled before)?

Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-02 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sun, Oct 02, 2022 at 04:43:47PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > >Hi Steve, > >thanks for the update! > >Am 02.10.22 um 16:27 schrieb Steve McIntyre: > >> * Tweaks to add the non-free-firmware section in the apt-setup module >>if desired/needed. > >... > >> If you think I've missed anything her

Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-02 Thread Steve McIntyre
Hi all! [ I've also blogged about this - see https://blog.einval.com/2022/10/02#firmware-vote-result ] I'm assuming that there will be no surprises and Kurt will shortly confirm the result that devotee reported already [1]. :-) We have quite a few things to do now, ideally before the freeze fo

Bug#1021118: ITP: golang-github-dennwc-btrfs -- btrfs library for Go

2022-10-02 Thread Daniel Swarbrick
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Daniel Swarbrick X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: golang-github-dennwc-btrfs Version : 0.0~git20220403.b3db0b2 Upstream Author : Denys Smirnov * URL : https://github.com/dennwc/btrfs * License

Bug#1021116: ITP: golang-github-dennwc-ioctl -- ioctl library for Go

2022-10-02 Thread Daniel Swarbrick
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Daniel Swarbrick X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: golang-github-dennwc-ioctl Version : 1.0.0 Upstream Author : Denys Smirnov * URL : https://github.com/dennwc/ioctl * License : MIT Programmin

Re: FTBS bugs -- MBF?

2022-10-02 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
On Sun, Oct 02, 2022 at 10:57:11AM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > > Packages that only build Architecture: all binary packages tend to use > > Build-Depends-Indep. > > Policy is quite clear about that being a bug. I think a better rule of > thumb for maintainers in a hurry would be: if you don't h

Re: FTBS bugs -- MBF?

2022-10-02 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sun, 02 Oct 2022 at 10:16:00 +0200, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: > On 10/2/22 04:23, Adam Borowski quoted Policy: > > # "clean" > > #Only the "Build-Depends" and "Build-Conflicts" fields must be > > #satisfied when this target is invoked. > > Shouldn't Build-Depends-Indep be considered

Re: FTBS bugs -- MBF?

2022-10-02 Thread Shengjing Zhu
Package: dh-golang Severity: wishlist Control: retitle -1 dh-golang unnecessary call for go command in clean target > Apparently there's not a single package that needs B-D-Arch. I've just > looked in case if sbuild installs those by default, but it's not the case. > A sample package (acmetool) f

Re: FTBS bugs -- MBF?

2022-10-02 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, Oct 02, 2022 at 08:40:04AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 02/10/22 at 04:23 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > > I did another _source_ rebuild of the archive -- checking if every package > > is capable of repacking its source. Ie, if you can unpack it, (possibly > > modify), and pack again.

Re: FTBS bugs -- MBF?

2022-10-02 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
On 10/2/22 04:23, Adam Borowski wrote: This leaves one big set: packages that fail the clean step due to undeclared B-Depends. According to the Policy: # "clean" #Only the "Build-Depends" and "Build-Conflicts" fields must be #satisfied when this target is invoked. ... which makes sense

Re: FTBS bugs -- MBF?

2022-10-02 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 02/10/22 at 04:23 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > Nǐmen hǎo! > I did another _source_ rebuild of the archive -- checking if every package > is capable of repacking its source. Ie, if you can unpack it, (possibly > modify), and pack again. > > Putting aside packages that are broken in other ways