Re: tag2upload service architecture and risk assessment - draft v2

2019-08-27 Thread Tobias Frost
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 05:04:06PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Scott Kitterman writes: > > > As an example, I recall concerns about there not being an uploader > > signature on the source anymore, so we would lose the ability to verify > > from the archive who was responsible for the upload. >

Re: tag2upload service architecture and risk assessment - draft v2

2019-08-27 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 8:04:06 PM EDT Russ Allbery wrote: > Scott Kitterman writes: > > As an example, I recall concerns about there not being an uploader > > signature on the source anymore, so we would lose the ability to verify > > from the archive who was responsible for the upload. > >

Re: tag2upload service architecture and risk assessment - draft v2

2019-08-27 Thread Russ Allbery
Scott Kitterman writes: > As an example, I recall concerns about there not being an uploader > signature on the source anymore, so we would lose the ability to verify > from the archive who was responsible for the upload. Does anyone do this? Does it work today? I'm dubious that you would be a

Re: tag2upload service architecture and risk assessment - draft v2

2019-08-27 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 1:19:14 PM EDT Ian Jackson wrote: > Ian Jackson writes ("Re: tag2upload service architecture and risk assessment - draft v2"): > > [stuff] > > Argh. A bunch of people helped me refine this but I sent an early > draft by mistake. I guess it's too late to hope people w

Re: Consensus Call: Git Packaging Round 1

2019-08-27 Thread Milan Kupcevic
On 8/27/19 1:37 PM, Alf Gaida wrote: > Am Dienstag, den 27.08.2019, 19:18 +0200 schrieb Adam Borowski: >> New stuff is always better. Go Electron! >> > Like it or not - the idea of pull requests (Github) or merge requests (Gitlab) > isn't exactly new. It might surprise you that people outside of d

Re: Consensus Call: Git Packaging Round 1

2019-08-27 Thread Alf Gaida
On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 15:35:37 -0400 Milan Kupcevic wrote: > I fully agree with the initial best practices proposal stating that > merge requests in salsa have to be attended to or otherwise this > feature has to be disabled as per package maintainer preference. I only stated that the Debian BTS f

Re: Consensus Call: Git Packaging Round 1

2019-08-27 Thread Antonio Terceiro
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 02:52:01PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > > "Alf" == Alf Gaida writes: > > > Alf> There are things i really like about PRs or MRs - they can be > Alf> reviewed, commented, changed without problems and fast. > > And as Sean pointed out, it's hard to understand th

Re: Consensus Call: Git Packaging Round 1

2019-08-27 Thread Alf Gaida
On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 14:52:01 -0400 Sam Hartman wrote: > And as Sean pointed out, it's hard to understand the history of the > changes and comments after they hppened. What happens when I'm trying > to review a MR three years later and the MR was rebased 4 times during > the lifetime of the MR pr

Re: Consensus Call: Git Packaging Round 1

2019-08-27 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Alf" == Alf Gaida writes: Alf> There are things i really like about PRs or MRs - they can be Alf> reviewed, commented, changed without problems and fast. And as Sean pointed out, it's hard to understand the history of the changes and comments after they hppened. What happens whe

Re: tag2upload service architecture and risk assessment - draft v2

2019-08-27 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Ian" == Ian Jackson writes: Ian> From my reading of the thread, it seems that there are two Ian> disputed design demands, which are related. Ian> The most basic demand is that the archive should be able to Ian> verify the whole contents of the .dsc, given data signed by th

Re: Consensus Call: Git Packaging Round 1

2019-08-27 Thread Alf Gaida
Am Dienstag, den 27.08.2019, 19:18 +0200 schrieb Adam Borowski: > New stuff is always better. Go Electron! > Like it or not - the idea of pull requests (Github) or merge requests (Gitlab) isn't exactly new. It might surprise you that people outside of debian are used to use it a lot. Anyways, it'

Re: tag2upload service architecture and risk assessment - draft v2

2019-08-27 Thread Ian Jackson
Ian Jackson writes ("Re: tag2upload service architecture and risk assessment - draft v2"): > [stuff] Argh. A bunch of people helped me refine this but I sent an early draft by mistake. I guess it's too late to hope people will read only the better version, but here it is anyway. If you haven't

Re: Consensus Call: Git Packaging Round 1

2019-08-27 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 05:52:02PM +0200, Alf Gaida wrote: > On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 16:08:59 +0100 > Ian Jackson wrote: > > Please avoid pejorative language like "stone age". > > Nicer would be "lowest common nominator" but "stone age" describe the > process of sending patches via BTS very well. Upp

Re: tag2upload service architecture and risk assessment - draft v2

2019-08-27 Thread Ian Jackson
Sam Hartman writes ("Re: tag2upload service architecture and risk assessment - draft v2"): > I do think it would be valuable to confirm whether we're at an impasse. > It sounds like Ian may think that resolving your concerns would be a > no-go I'm definitely trying to have a constructive discussi

Re: Consensus Call: Git Packaging Round 1

2019-08-27 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2019-08-27 17:52:02 +0200 (+0200), Alf Gaida wrote: > On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 16:08:59 +0100 Ian Jackson wrote: [...] > > Please avoid pejorative language like "stone age". > > Nicer would be "lowest common nominator" but "stone age" describe > the process of sending patches via BTS very well. Upps

Re: Consensus Call: Git Packaging Round 1

2019-08-27 Thread Alf Gaida
On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 16:08:59 +0100 Ian Jackson wrote: > I think Sam's proposed change would be to document in the DR that a > maintainer should handle change requests (including code > contributions) sent to the BTS. That would surely just be documenting > our existing norm. It seems to me that

Bug#935908: ITP: dmsh -- simple 2D mesh generator inspired by distmesh

2019-08-27 Thread Drew Parsons
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Drew Parsons * Package name: python-dmsh Version : 0.1.3 Upstream Author : Nico Schlömer * URL : https://github.com/nschloe/dmsh * License : MIT Programming Lang: Python Description : simple mesh generator inspir

Re: Consensus Call: Git Packaging Round 1

2019-08-27 Thread Ian Jackson
Bernd Zeimetz : > On 2019-08-26 23:41, Sam Hartman wrote: > > I don't think you're part of our consensus. > > Yes, that might be very true. But what you describe by > "our consensus" I'm not a fan of this phrasing by Sam. But he makes a very good point: you have not answered any of the substanti

Re: tag2upload service architecture and risk assessment - draft v2

2019-08-27 Thread Holger Levsen
Dear Bastian, On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 02:41:28PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > No, you just did a medium break. Mail is not web, don't do that. You > need to at least list the differences. [...] > Sorry, but I don't see how we can go forward, while you seem to be > either unable to understand w

Re: tag2upload service architecture and risk assessment - draft v2

2019-08-27 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Bastian" == Bastian Blank writes: Bastian> Please describe the design changes you added to address our Bastian> concerns. The risk assessment still lists things we Bastian> described as no-go. Bastian> Sorry, but I don't see how we can go forward, while you Bastian>

Re: Consensus?

2019-08-27 Thread Wookey
On 2019-08-27 09:48 -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > > Also, one of the assumptions about consensus discussions is that many > more people are reading than contributing. But if those people disagree > strongly enough they'll speak up. Exactly - I'm one of these people. I'm happy with what Sam said a

Re: Bypassing the 2/3/4GB virtual memory space on 32-bit ports

2019-08-27 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Luke" == Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton writes: >On Friday, August 23, 2019, Karsten Merker wrote: > and decide for themselves who is displaying "violent > hatred" on mailing lists and come to their own judgement about > your allegations: Luke>You've now violated the Debi

Re: Consensus?

2019-08-27 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Bernd" == Bernd Zeimetz writes: Bernd> On 2019-08-26 23:41, Sam Hartman wrote: >> I don't think you're part of our consensus. Bernd> Yes, that might be very true. But what you describe by "our Bernd> consensus" is the opinion of a few people who actually read Bernd> th

Re: tag2upload service architecture and risk assessment - draft v2

2019-08-27 Thread Bastian Blank
On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 06:32:30PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Thanks for all the comments on the draft service architecture I posted > in late July. [1] I have made a v2, incorporating the various helpful > suggestions, and the information from the thread. No, you just did a medium break. Mail

Re: tag2upload service architecture and risk assessment - draft v2

2019-08-27 Thread Ian Jackson
Ian Jackson writes ("tag2upload service architecture and risk assessment - draft v2"): > Thanks for all the comments on the draft service architecture I posted > in late July. [1] I have made a v2, incorporating the various helpful > suggestions, and the information from the thread. It has been

Consensus?

2019-08-27 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 2019-08-26 23:41, Sam Hartman wrote: I don't think you're part of our consensus. Yes, that might be very true. But what you describe by "our consensus" is the opinion of a few people who actually read this mailinglist regularily and consider to reply. I really hope that you do not consider t

Re: Consensus Call: Git Packaging Round 1 [and 1 more messages]

2019-08-27 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:40:22AM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Andrej Shadura writes ("Re: Consensus Call: Git Packaging Round 1"): > > I noticed some people [citation needed] think it is not important to > > preserve pristine upstream tarballs with the move to Git, and it's > > okay to regenerate

Re: Consensus Call: Git Packaging Round 1 [and 1 more messages]

2019-08-27 Thread Ian Jackson
Andrej Shadura writes ("Re: Consensus Call: Git Packaging Round 1"): > I noticed some people [citation needed] think it is not important to > preserve pristine upstream tarballs with the move to Git, and it's > okay to regenerate them from a Git branch without trying to preserve > checksums of the

Bug#935876: ITP: octave-kernel -- Jupyter kernel for Octave (Python 3)

2019-08-27 Thread Joseph Nahmias
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Joseph Nahmias * Package name: octave-kernel Version : 0.31.1 Upstream Author : Steven Silvester * URL : https://github.com/calysto/octave_kernel * License : BSD Programming Lang: Python Description : Jupyter ker

Bug#935875: ITP: ocaml-mmap -- file mapping functionality in OCaml

2019-08-27 Thread Stéphane Glondu
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stéphane Glondu * Package name: ocaml-mmap Version : 1.1.0 Upstream Author : Jérémie Dimino and Anton Bachin * URL : https://github.com/mirage/mmap * License : LGPL 2.1 with linking exception Programming Lang: OCaml D