Re: Why do we list individual copyright holders?

2018-01-02 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 3 janvier 2018 08:43 +0200, Lars Wirzenius  : > Over the past several years, I've spent less time updating > Standard-Version in my own packages than I've spent reading this email > thread. I don't want to ridicule anyone's concerns, but I'm of the > opinion that when it comes to S-V, the conc

Re: Why do we list individual copyright holders?

2018-01-02 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 09:33:08PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > These statements are not in contradiction. Saying "this package complies > with policy version X" doesn't say anything about what version of policy the > package *should* comply with. Our tooling should absolutely be optimized > fo

Re: Why do we list individual copyright holders?

2018-01-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 10:22:19AM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 04:25:07PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > If S-V is declaring that the package conforms to some older version of the > > > policy then all the tools should check that package against that policy > > >

Re: Why do we list individual copyright holders?

2018-01-02 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 04:25:07PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > If S-V is declaring that the package conforms to some older version of the > > policy then all the tools should check that package against that policy > > and not against the latest one. > > No, they should not. S-V is a declarat

Re: Why do we list individual copyright holders?

2018-01-02 Thread Steve Robbins
On Sunday, December 31, 2017 8:42:29 PM CST Stuart Prescott wrote: > Vincent Bernat wrote: > > Lintian is full of opinions. For example, I often get: > > > > W: python-pysnmp4-doc: extra-license-file > > usr/share/doc/python-pysnmp4-doc/html/_sources/license.txt > > That is not an opinion, it is

Bug#886197: ITP: node-js-cookie -- Lightweight JavaScript cookie API

2018-01-02 Thread Daniel Ring
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Daniel Ring X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: node-js-cookie Version : 2.2.0 Upstream Author : Klaus Hartl * URL : https://github.com/js-cookie/js-cookie * License : Expat Programming Lang: Jav

Re: Why do we list individual copyright holders?

2018-01-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 12:55:36PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Mon, Jan 01, 2018 at 05:26:35PM +, Sean Whitton wrote: > > IMO the point of the field is to ensure that you /don't/ have to upgrade > > to the latest version of Policy right away. It allows you to keep track > > of the ve

Re: Why do we list individual copyright holders?

2018-01-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Markus Koschany writes: > I believe that the Standards-Version header should not be part of a > debian/control file. I understand your reasoning why you want to keep it > and why it is useful for you. Though in my opinion a debian/control > file, or generally speaking all information in debian/,

Re: Why do we list individual copyright holders?

2018-01-02 Thread gregor herrmann
On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 22:19:26 +0100, Vincent Bernat wrote: > Good to know. Unfortunately, I get "E: x source: > no-standards-version-field" from Lintian. Won't the package be rejected > by FTP masters? Doesn't seem so: % grep no-standards-version-field /usr/share/lintian/profiles/debian/

Re: Why do we list individual copyright holders?

2018-01-02 Thread Markus Koschany
Am 02.01.2018 um 21:57 schrieb Tollef Fog Heen: > ]] Markus Koschany > >> Am 02.01.2018 um 19:38 schrieb Russ Allbery: >> [...] >>> I think of the Standards-Version header in a package is a bookmark: this >>> is where I last left off in updating the packaging. It doesn't change the >>> standard

Processed: Re: Bug#886173: general: ls quotes results with special characters in its output

2018-01-02 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing control commands: > reassign -1 coreutils Bug #886173 [general] general: ls quotes results with special characters in its output Bug reassigned from package 'general' to 'coreutils'. Ignoring request to alter found versions of bug #886173 to the same values previously set Ignoring req

Bug#886173: general: ls quotes results with special characters in its output

2018-01-02 Thread Ben Hutchings
Control: reassign -1 coreutils On Tue, 2018-01-02 at 20:38 +, mqu...@neosmart.net wrote: [...] > In particular, `ls` output (both in regular and `-l` modes) wraps in > single quotes the names of files that contain special characters (or, at > least, a parenthesis), meaning its output is not an

Re: Team naming policy on salsa.debian.org

2018-01-02 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Sun, 31 Dec 2017, Riku Voipio wrote: > On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 02:17:24PM +0100, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez wrote: > > Following with your example (pkg-suricata-team) I prefer to make it > > explicit for people outside debian that this is about packaging. > > So I usually put the 'pkg' string

Re: salsa.debian.org (git.debian.org replacement) going into beta

2018-01-02 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 28 Dec 2017, Marc Haber wrote: > On Tue, 26 Dec 2017 14:48:50 +0100, Mattia Rizzolo > wrote: > >On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 02:45:38PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > >> The time before the last time I asked about tracker, the answer was > >> that this was not yet possible due to old lintian doing

Re: Why do we list individual copyright holders?

2018-01-02 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 2 janvier 2018 21:57 +0100, Tollef Fog Heen  : > Also, the Standards-Version header is only recommended to be included, > it's not mandatory. If its existence offends you so much and you have > so few bugs to fix in your packages that the primary effort of > maintaining your package is updati

Bug#886176: ITP: libmail-transport-perl -- perl library for sending email

2018-01-02 Thread Damyan Ivanov
Package: wnpp Owner: Damyan Ivanov Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-p...@lists.debian.org * Package name: libmail-transport-perl Version : 3.001 Upstream Author : Mark Overmeer * URL : https://metacpan.org/release/Mail-Transport *

Re: Why do we list individual copyright holders?

2018-01-02 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Markus Koschany > Am 02.01.2018 um 19:38 schrieb Russ Allbery: > [...] > > I think of the Standards-Version header in a package is a bookmark: this > > is where I last left off in updating the packaging. It doesn't change the > > standard by which the package should be judged. > > I believe

Bug#886173: general: ls quotes results with special characters in its output

2018-01-02 Thread mqudsi
Package: general Severity: normal Dear Maintainer, On a clean installation of debian buster, I ran into an issue where the output of `ls` in various modes led me to confusedly attempt to figure out where my scripting had gone wrong. In particular, `ls` output (both in regular and `-l` modes) wra

Re: Why do we list individual copyright holders?

2018-01-02 Thread Markus Koschany
Am 02.01.2018 um 19:38 schrieb Russ Allbery: [...] > I think of the Standards-Version header in a package is a bookmark: this > is where I last left off in updating the packaging. It doesn't change the > standard by which the package should be judged. I believe that the Standards-Version header s

Bug#886170: ITP: ksmtp -- library for handling SMTP data

2018-01-02 Thread Sandro Knauß
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sandro Knauß * Package name: ksmtp Version : 17.12.0 Upstream Author : KDE Pim * URL : https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/pim/ksmtp * License : LGPL-2.1+ Programming Lang: C++ Description : library for handling

Bug#886169: ITP: libmoosex-util-perl -- Moose::Util extensions

2018-01-02 Thread gregor herrmann
Package: wnpp Owner: gregor herrmann Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-p...@lists.debian.org * Package name: libmoosex-util-perl Version : 0.006 Upstream Author : Chris Weyl * URL : https://metacpan.org/release/MooseX-Util * Licens

Bug#886167: ITP: libmoosex-traitfor-meta-class-betteranonclassnames-perl -- helper for MooseX::Util to generate anonymous class names

2018-01-02 Thread gregor herrmann
Package: wnpp Owner: gregor herrmann Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-p...@lists.debian.org * Package name: libmoosex-traitfor-meta-class-betteranonclassnames-perl Version : 0.002003 Upstream Author : Chris Weyl * URL : https://m

Re: Why do we list individual copyright holders?

2018-01-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Andrey Rahmatullin writes: > On Mon, Jan 01, 2018 at 05:26:35PM +, Sean Whitton wrote: >> IMO the point of the field is to ensure that you /don't/ have to >> upgrade to the latest version of Policy right away. It allows you to >> keep track of the version of Policy you are up-to-date with, s

Bug#886129: ITP: mstch -- Mustache implementation in C++11

2018-01-02 Thread Guus Sliepen
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Guus Sliepen * Package name: mstch Version : 1.0.2 Upstream Author : Daniel Sipka * URL : https://github.com/no1msd/mstch * License : MIT Programming Lang: C++ Description : Mustache implementation in C++11 Mstc

Re: Why do we list individual copyright holders?

2018-01-02 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 08:29:00AM +, Niels Thykier wrote: > > If S-V is declaring that the package conforms to some older version of the > > policy then all the tools should check that package against that policy > > and not against the latest one. > > > > Lintian's architecture does not len

Re: On debhelper compat levels (Was: Re: Why do we list individual copyright holders?)

2018-01-02 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Niels Thykier (2018-01-02 12:19:00) > Jonas Smedegaard: > > Quoting Niels Thykier (2018-01-02 09:23:00) > >> Andrey Rahmatullin: > >>> On Mon, Jan 01, 2018 at 08:40:38PM +0100, Jérémy Lal wrote: > wouldn't it be simpler to couple debhelper dependency to > Standards-Version ? > >>

On debhelper compat levels (Was: Re: Why do we list individual copyright holders?)

2018-01-02 Thread Niels Thykier
Jonas Smedegaard: > Quoting Niels Thykier (2018-01-02 09:23:00) >> Andrey Rahmatullin: >>> On Mon, Jan 01, 2018 at 08:40:38PM +0100, Jérémy Lal wrote: wouldn't it be simpler to couple debhelper dependency to Standards-Version ? >>> There are packages which may break with newer debhelper,

Re: Why do we list individual copyright holders?

2018-01-02 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Niels Thykier (2018-01-02 09:23:00) > Andrey Rahmatullin: >> On Mon, Jan 01, 2018 at 08:40:38PM +0100, Jérémy Lal wrote: >>> wouldn't it be simpler to couple debhelper dependency to >>> Standards-Version ? >> There are packages which may break with newer debhelper, but can be >> easily up

Re: Why do we list individual copyright holders?

2018-01-02 Thread Niels Thykier
Andrey Rahmatullin: > On Mon, Jan 01, 2018 at 05:26:35PM +, Sean Whitton wrote: >> IMO the point of the field is to ensure that you /don't/ have to upgrade >> to the latest version of Policy right away. It allows you to keep track >> of the version of Policy you are up-to-date with, so you can

Re: Why do we list individual copyright holders?

2018-01-02 Thread Niels Thykier
Andrey Rahmatullin: > On Mon, Jan 01, 2018 at 08:40:38PM +0100, Jérémy Lal wrote: >> wouldn't it be simpler to couple debhelper dependency to >> Standards-Version ? > There are packages which may break with newer debhelper, but can be easily > updated to the current policy. > Also, there are pack