On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 12:45 AM, Alastair McKinstry wrote:
> Debian for Drones(TM)
Are there any that could run Debian?
It might be interesting to use them to ferry microphones at DebConf :)
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Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton writes:
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Christian Seiler wrote:
>> Am 16.02.2015 um 02:54 schrieb Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton:
>>>
>>> http://lkcl.net/reports/removing_systemd_from_debian/
>>
>>
>> It's funny that when Wheezy (not Jessie!) came out, nobody compl
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On Feb 16, Alastair McKinstry wrote:
> The breakage of compatibility of existing systems (e.g. with /usr on a
> separate partition) has left a sour taste. I spent a weekend repairing
systemd introduces no such breakage. Also, /usr on a separate partition
was partially broken even before systemd
Hallo,
* Lisi Reisz [Mon, Feb 16 2015, 11:42:14AM]:
> On Monday 16 February 2015 08:09:19 Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > > to debian-users: you don't have complete choice (yet), but i have
> > > demonstrated with a few hours work that there is a way to run
> > > (certain) desktop environments without requ
Paul Wise wrote:
> We were discussing optional libraries on IRC and noticed the Solaris
> libc supports this but I can't find any reference to that for glibc.
You can do something very similar with weak symbols. You don't even
need to use dlopen to test for their existence; you can just test the
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Matthias Klumpp wrote:
> 2015-02-16 16:26 GMT+01:00 Alastair McKinstry :
>> [...]
>> An an example, i've been a long-term linux developer, DD; i've developed
>> and promoted Linux not just on the desktop but both in embedded systems
>> and in HPC systems. In all th
Am 13.02.2015 um 21:15 schrieb Riley Baird:
> On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 21:16:39 +0100
> Tomas Pospisek wrote:
>> Am 12.02.2015 um 20:59 schrieb Riley Baird:
>>
>>> Bug #388141 [RC] refers to the relicensing of the debian www pages.
>>> After contacting debian-www, it seems that there isn't much interes
On 16/02/2015 16:14, Matthias Klumpp wrote:
> 2015-02-16 16:26 GMT+01:00 Alastair McKinstry :
>> [...]
>> An an example, i've been a long-term linux developer, DD; i've developed
>> and promoted Linux not just on the desktop but both in embedded systems
>> and in HPC systems. In all these I've bee
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2015-02-16 16:26 GMT+01:00 Alastair McKinstry :
> [...]
> An an example, i've been a long-term linux developer, DD; i've developed
> and promoted Linux not just on the desktop but both in embedded systems
> and in HPC systems. In all these I've been comfortable that I've been
> able to adapt Linux,
On 2015-02-16 16:26, Alastair McKinstry wrote:
> On 16/02/2015 14:41, Christian Kastner wrote:
>> I'll hazard another guess, namely that the great vast majority of users
>> simply do not care. I'd be surprised if most users even know what an
>> init system does, much less what the differences betwe
On 16/02/2015 14:41, Christian Kastner wrote:
> On 2015-02-16 13:47, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Christian Seiler
>> wrote:
>>> Am 16.02.2015 um 02:54 schrieb Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton:
http://lkcl.net/reports/removing_systemd_from_debian/
>>>
Daniel Kahn Gillmor writes ("Re: [Reproducible-builds] Reproducible Builds —
proof of concept successful for 83% of all sources in main"):
> However, for packages that don't use a framework we can fix, or which
> use a tool that has no plans to adopt these kinds of modes upstream,
I think that if
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On 2015-02-16 13:47, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Christian Seiler wrote:
>> Am 16.02.2015 um 02:54 schrieb Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton:
>>>
>>> http://lkcl.net/reports/removing_systemd_from_debian/
>>
>>
>> It's funny that when Wheezy (not Jessie!) came
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On 02/16/2015 at 07:47 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Christian Seiler
> wrote:
>
>> Am 16.02.2015 um 02:54 schrieb Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton:
>>
>>> http://lkcl.net/reports/removing_systemd_from_debian/
>>
>> It's funny that when Wheezy (not Jes
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On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Christian Seiler wrote:
> Am 16.02.2015 um 02:54 schrieb Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton:
>>
>> http://lkcl.net/reports/removing_systemd_from_debian/
>
>
> It's funny that when Wheezy (not Jessie!) came out, nobody complained
> that libsystemd-login0 (which is now pa
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 01:54:35AM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> to illustrate the dominance of libsystemd0, if you carry out an
> "apt-get --purge remove libsystemd0"
First, it's actual systemd packages that are a problem, libsystemd0 is
merely a harmless library which does nothing
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Am 16.02.2015 um 02:54 schrieb Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton:
http://lkcl.net/reports/removing_systemd_from_debian/
It's funny that when Wheezy (not Jessie!) came out, nobody complained
that libsystemd-login0 (which is now part of libsystemd0) was as a
dependency of dbus, so it is probably alrea
On Monday 16 February 2015 08:09:19 Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > to debian-users: you don't have complete choice (yet), but i have
> > demonstrated with a few hours work that there is a way to run
> > (certain) desktop environments without requiring libsystemd0 or any of
> > its dependencies, and after
Marco d'Itri:
> On Feb 16, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>
>> to debian-developers: the technical issues are irrelevant (and can
>> always be solved over time) - it's that you are complicit in removing
>> people's software freedom right to choose what to run on their system:
>> that is why
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On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Or, alternately, you could research how and why one would use shared
> libraries in a binary distribution to support optional features. But
> that's boring, prosaic, and nowhere near as much fun to write about.
We were discussing optional li
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On Feb 16, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> to debian-users: you don't have complete choice (yet), but i have
> demonstrated with a few hours work that there is a way to run
> (certain) desktop environments without requiring libsystemd0 or any of
> its dependencies, and after a little invest
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