On 2015-02-16 16:26, Alastair McKinstry wrote: > On 16/02/2015 14:41, Christian Kastner wrote: >> I'll hazard another guess, namely that the great vast majority of users >> simply do not care. I'd be surprised if most users even know what an >> init system does, much less what the differences between sysvinit / >> systemd / upstart / etc are. [*] > But the developers _do_ care, and that matters.
Yes, some -- probably even many! -- developers do care. And many of them actively contribute to a solution, be it with constructive criticism, or sharing insights, or providing patches. And I truly, deeply value that. However, the certain group of people my complaint was addressed to seem to contribute only drama and discord. > See John Goertzens insightful blog post: > > http://changelog.complete.org/archives/9304-reactions-to-has-modern-linux-lost-its-way-and-the-value-of-simplicity > > An an example, i've been a long-term linux developer, DD; i've developed > and promoted Linux not just on the desktop but both in embedded systems > and in HPC systems. In all these I've been comfortable that I've been > able to adapt Linux, reconfigure, do what was needed to get it going on > any size of device, and get my changes either accepted upstream, > maintain them locally in my organisation or both. With systemd I don't > think I could do that, and thats very disempowering. > > Do I really need to point out that if we lose developers, then the users > lose too? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/f493006db2902ca503093d87e6c7e...@kvr.at