Re: LSB headers and other junk, how do you hack a quick init script in debian these days?

2014-10-20 Thread Michael Ole Olsen
Who needs to document their own pc they hack on daily? suddenly I couldnt just place a script in rc2.d folder anymore, needed to symlink needed to add an lsb header too it seems maybe I'm overlooking something I prefer to hack on my own without using debian tools, update-rc.d i.e. would be nic

Re: Remember when men were men and wrote their own init scripts? =)

2014-10-20 Thread Martinx - ジェームズ
Hey Paul, I really appreciate your feedback. Glad to see that at least, systemd in Debian have some boundaries. Whew! Tks! I'll try to disable html messages for all Debian Lists at my GMail account right now, sorry about that. Nevertheless, I'm not flaming (not my intention, really), I care abou

Re: Remember when men were men and wrote their own init scripts? =)

2014-10-20 Thread Paul Wise
Please do not use HTML mail on Debian lists. Please do not flame on Debian lists. https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct https://www.debian.org/code_of_conduct On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 1:34 AM, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: > tried it without success, lots of bugs popped everywhere when wit

Re: piece of mind

2014-10-20 Thread Cameron Norman
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 6:43 AM, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 08:35:05AM +0200, Christoph Biedl wrote: >> * consider skipping jessie altogether in the hope jessie+1 will >> provide alternatives or, at least has a systemd where development >> speed went down significantly. > > Tha

Bug#765719: marked as done (general: System restarts on "shutdown -h now")

2014-10-20 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Tue, 21 Oct 2014 04:25:31 +0200 with message-id <5445c41b.5090...@tnnn.pl> and subject line Re: Bug#765719: general: System restarts on "shutdown -h now" has caused the Debian Bug report #765719, regarding general: System restarts on "shutdown -h now" to be marked as done. This

Bug#765719: general: System restarts on "shutdown -h now"

2014-10-20 Thread Moritz Tacke
Thank you very much, that worked instantly! I don't know why kexec-tools was installed, but now, it isn't any longer and the reboot-cycle is broken. On Fri, 17 Oct 2014, Konstantin Khomoutov wrote: On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 15:28:18 +0200 Moritz wrote: * What led up to the situation? After t

Re: New dash in experimental

2014-10-20 Thread Alastair McKinstry
On 20/10/2014 13:50, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > sofia-sip 1.12.11+20110422.1-2 Failed [UNKNOWN] /bin/sh: 4: pushd: not > found >> bashism, you should reportbug that, RC severity (Policy 10.4) > hdf-eos4 2.19v1.00+dfsg.1-1 Failed [UNKNOWN] ../libtool: 1: eval: > base_compile+= -c: not found > libvis

Bug#766098: ITP: spatial4j-0.4 -- spatial/geospatial Java library

2014-10-20 Thread Hilko Bengen
Package: wnpp Owner: Hilko Bengen Severity: wishlist * Package name: spatial4j-0.4 Version : 0.4.1 Upstream Author : * URL or Web page : http://spatial4j.github.io/spatial4j/ * License : Apache-2.0 Description : spatial/geospatial Java library This is a newer versi

Re: Remember when men were men and wrote their own init scripts? =)

2014-10-20 Thread Lee Winter
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Ondřej Surý wrote: No, please don't. It's neither useful, productive nor funny. > Actually your message is even worse. It isn't useful or productive. And it certainly isn't funny. But it is definitely censorious, which I, and I suspect many others, find offen

Re: Remember when men were men and wrote their own init scripts? =)

2014-10-20 Thread Martinx - ジェームズ
Okay, I agree with you. I just find two bugs when with systemd, I'll fill the bug reports. Those problems I'm seeing are reproducible. Please, forgive me, I don't want to make things worse, I just want to *express my concerns* about this "systemd-situation"... I'm with Debian because *it is uniqu

Re: post-jessie: header only C++ library package (static?)

2014-10-20 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 11:12:24PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > > "header only C++ library package" seems to be more common. > > As I see the replies > trie data structure of marisa (my problem) > large portion of boost(Dimitri) > STL (Dimitri) > seqan >

Re: Remember when men were men and wrote their own init scripts? =)

2014-10-20 Thread Ondřej Surý
If you have the unresistible urge to act, then go fix a bug. Or help with triaging the bugs - finding reproducible test case also helps. Turn that urge into something productive. Flaming in the mailing list isn't helpful, it's exactly the oposite. Cheers, Ondrej On Mon, Oct 20, 2014, at 21:0

Re: Remember when men were men and wrote their own init scripts? =)

2014-10-20 Thread Martinx - ジェームズ
But I need to act (at least, say something) to preserve our distro and I cannot remain in silence. Sorry... This isn't intended to be fun. Cheers! Thiago On 20 October 2014 16:57, Ondřej Surý wrote: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2014, at 19:34, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: > > I really do NOT want to start a fl

Re: Remember when men were men and wrote their own init scripts? =)

2014-10-20 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014, at 19:34, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: > I really do NOT want to start a flame war, I know that you guys are tired about this "init" subject appearing over and over... No, you wanted to add more oil on existing flamewars and you know it. If you don't want to start the flamewars,

Re: New dash in experimental

2014-10-20 Thread Gerrit Pape
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 03:59:29PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2014-10-20 14:19 +0200, Gerrit Pape wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 01, 2014 at 07:07:45PM +0200, Niels Thykier wrote: > >> Have you tried rebuilding the archive with the new version of dash? If > >> not, perhaps get in touch with David Suá

Bug#766082: ITP: libstruct-dumb-perl -- module to create simple lightweight record-like structures

2014-10-20 Thread gregor herrmann
Package: wnpp Owner: gregor herrmann Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org * Package name: libstruct-dumb-perl Version : 0.03 Upstream Author : Paul Evans * URL : https://metacpan.org/release/Struct-Dumb * License

Re: Remember when men were men and wrote their own init scripts? =)

2014-10-20 Thread Martinx - ジェームズ
Sorry man... English isn't my native language, is hard for me to express myself in another language... But yes, those sources aren't the best but, there are more, you know. :-P Best! Thiago On 20 October 2014 15:55, Axel Wagner wrote: > Hi, > > Martinx - ジェームズ writes: > > I really do NOT wan

Re: Remember when men were men and wrote their own init scripts? =)

2014-10-20 Thread Axel Wagner
Hi, Martinx - ジェームズ writes: > I really do NOT want to start a flame war This statement is evidently false or misguided. I'd love to leave it at that (see?), but: > Linux Kernel Developers Fed Up With Ridiculous Bugs In Systemd: > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTY1MzA > > L

Re: piece of mind

2014-10-20 Thread Axel Wagner
Hi Thorsten, Thorsten Glaser writes: >> "If you don't want to use my software on general principles, go away and >> write your own. Do not bother me." >> >> This principle is hardly specific to systemd. > > Yes, but other upstreams at least agree to not step on the > toes of people who wish to

Re: apt-get install sysvinit-core removes gnome?

2014-10-20 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 01:34:13PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > cc:ing the apt maintainers to get their opinion on making this the default... [Disclaimer: I have written the APT part of it. I might be biased.] Hell no – as this isn't the point of the implementation. It is intended to help resear

Re: apt-get install sysvinit-core removes gnome?

2014-10-20 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 09:32:54AM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > David Kalnischkies: > > > Apitude, too, *really* likes to choose 500 deletions rather than upgrading > > > even a single package to a version with slightly-lower priority (as > > > defined > > > in /etc/apt/pref*), but at least yo

Remember when men were men and wrote their own init scripts? =)

2014-10-20 Thread Martinx - ジェームズ
Guys, I really do NOT want to start a flame war, I know that you guys are tired about this "init" subject appearing over and over... But, my turn...:-P *First things first: Why I'm with Debian / Ubuntu?* A.: Because *I like the work of Debian Maintainers* (you guys and gals, sirs and madam

Re: piece of mind

2014-10-20 Thread Alessio Treglia
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 7:35 AM, Christoph Biedl wrote: > * sit and watch the things happen they don't agree with at all, things That's not true, literally ***it can't be true*** It is in clear view that the _majority_ agrees, and every single of us *must* fall under one of the categories listed

Re: New dash in experimental

2014-10-20 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2014-10-20 14:19 +0200, Gerrit Pape wrote: > On Wed, Oct 01, 2014 at 07:07:45PM +0200, Niels Thykier wrote: >> On 2014-10-01 16:04, Gerrit Pape wrote: >> > Hi, I uploaded a new version of dash (0.5.8-1) to experimental, please >> > help testing it. If no critical issues arise, I plan to put th

Re: piece of mind

2014-10-20 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Christoph Biedl wrote: > Debian installations I have at least three serious issues that prevent > systemd based systems from booting or being usable¹. Are you willing to file bug reports about these issues? https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting -- bye, pabs

Re: piece of mind

2014-10-20 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Christoph Biedl: > > - upstream shows little respect for people who object systemd > > Why should they? Because not doing that is asocial. > "If you don't want to use my software on general principles, go away and > write your own. Do not bother m

generate Built-Using headers (was Re: post-jessie: header only C++ library package (static?))

2014-10-20 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014, Osamu Aoki wrote: > I see. By the way, I have never seen package using Build-Using in > debian/control which is documented in policy. Is there any automatic > way to set the used-source:Version of package used? Something like ... > > Built-Using: marisa (== ${used-source:Ver

Re: debconf as a registry

2014-10-20 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 10/18/2014 05:14 AM, Bas Wijnen wrote: >> As I wrote previously, this may only happen if we decide to have such a >> library as essential, otherwise this forces to use pre-depends, which >> isn't good. > > IMO using pre-depends is a lot better than adding a package to > essential, but I'd rathe

Re: piece of mind

2014-10-20 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Christoph Biedl: > - upstream shows little respect for people who object systemd Why should they? "If you don't want to use my software on general principles, go away and write your own. Do not bother me." This principle is hardly specific to systemd. > I have at least three serious iss

Re: New dash in experimental

2014-10-20 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014, Gerrit Pape wrote: > time for this is quite limited. You and me both, unfortunately. bye, //mirabilos -- [16:04:33] bkix: "veni vidi violini" [16:04:45] bkix: "ich kam, sah und vergeigte"... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: post-jessie: header only C++ library package (static?)

2014-10-20 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 09:23:56PM +0100, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > Hello, > On 18 October 2014 17:19, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > Hi, > > This is about packaging around a header only C++ library package. ... > > "header only C++ library package" seems to be more common. As I see the replies t

Re: piece of mind

2014-10-20 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 08:35:05AM +0200, Christoph Biedl wrote: > * consider skipping jessie altogether in the hope jessie+1 will > provide alternatives or, at least has a systemd where development > speed went down significantly. That's backwards -- it's the future that's at risk, jessie is a fi

Re: New dash in experimental

2014-10-20 Thread Gerrit Pape
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 02:50:55PM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > On Mon, 20 Oct 2014, Gerrit Pape wrote: > > See #766048, I rate the results as ciritical issues ;), and so won't > > I’ve glanced at the list referenced. > > Some things that immediately come to mind: Hi, I'd very appreciate help

Re: New dash in experimental

2014-10-20 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014, Gerrit Pape wrote: > See #766048, I rate the results as ciritical issues ;), and so won't I’ve glanced at the list referenced. Some things that immediately come to mind: autoconf2.64 2.64-3 Failed [CONFIGURE_ERROR] configure: error: no acceptable m4 could be found in $PATH

Re: piece of mind

2014-10-20 Thread Christoph Biedl
Matthias Urlichs wrote... > We don't do a GR among our users. We do that among Debian > members/maintainers/developers/take-your-pick. > > Of those, most … > * are perfectly happy with the TC's decision > * can live with it > * are unhappy, but think that to continue discussing this is way worse

Re: Migration from cron to cron-daemon?

2014-10-20 Thread Gerrit Pape
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 12:08:20PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Stephan Seitz writes: > > Is this a release critical bug? As a testing user I now have problems > > using bcron. > > Given that this is a migration that's barely been started, I think it > would be best for bcron-run to continue to P

Re: New dash in experimental

2014-10-20 Thread Gerrit Pape
On Wed, Oct 01, 2014 at 07:07:45PM +0200, Niels Thykier wrote: > On 2014-10-01 16:04, Gerrit Pape wrote: > > Hi, I uploaded a new version of dash (0.5.8-1) to experimental, please > > help testing it. If no critical issues arise, I plan to put this > > version into unstable in about two weeks. >

Re: apt-get install sysvinit-core removes gnome?

2014-10-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 16 oct 14, 17:35:09, Martin Read wrote: > > mormegil@cocytus:~$ cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/00dontbeanidiot > Aptitude::ProblemResolver { > SolutionCost "priority, removals, canceled-actions"; I've had better (as in "not unexpected") results with just 'removals'. Kind regards, Andrei -- http

Re: post-jessie: header only C++ library package (static?)

2014-10-20 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Sun, 19 Oct 2014, Sune Vuorela wrote: > Eigen. Yes, that was it. Thanks. OK, we have some examples, I hope this helps the OP ;-) bye, //mirabilos -- Sometimes they [people] care too much: pretty printers [and syntax highligh- ting, d.A.] mechanically produce pretty output that accentuates i

Re: Determining, ad hoc, whether someone is a DD

2014-10-20 Thread Enrico Zini
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 11:36:18AM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > I've been using things like ldap and the keyring before to come up > with the number of DDs and was never very happy with it. I've > recently also been pointed to that. I wish it was better > integrated so that I can query it. I've

Bug#765988: ITP: node-tap -- A Test-Anything-Protocol module for Node.js

2014-10-20 Thread Jérémy Lal
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Jérémy Lal" * Package name: node-tap Version : 0.4.13 Upstream Author : Isaac Z. Schlueter * URL : https://github.com/isaacs/node-tap * License : Expat Programming Lang: JavaScript Description : A Test-Anything-

Bug#765996: ITP: boxer-data -- classes and nodes usable by Boxer

2014-10-20 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jonas Smedegaard -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 * Package name: boxer-data Version : 1 Upstream Author : Jonas Smedegaard * URL : https://wiki.debian.org/Boxer * License : GPL-3+ Programming Lang: YAM