Re: i need urgent travel pr1

2010-07-18 Thread j p
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Re: Last call for keys for keysigning in New York City, USA during DebConf10

2010-07-18 Thread AnĂ­bal Monsalve Salazar
[Resending as I've had problems posting this message] As part of the 11th Debian Conference in New York City, USA, there will be OpenPGP (pgp/gpg) keysignings. If you intend to participate in the DebConf10 keysignings, please send your ascii armored public key as explained at [0] no later than Tue

Bug#589600: ITP: f5vpn-login -- F5 VPN command-line client

2010-07-18 Thread Taku YASUI
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Taku YASUI * Package name: f5vpn-login Version : 20091224 Upstream Author : James Y Knight, * URL : http://fuhm.net/software/f5vpn-login/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C, Python Description : F5 VPN command-

Re: KVM and 2.6.32-5-amd64

2010-07-18 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 09:03 +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > I recently tried to start a KVM image with the same script as I had used > previously. > > I had just upgraded the host (which tracks unstable) from 2.6.32-4 to > 2.6.32-5, the virtual machine had been running 2.6.32-5-amd64 for a while

Re: Upstream Tracker

2010-07-18 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Andrey Ponomarenko wrote: > Hello, Colleagues! > > The new service for tracking ABI changes in various C/C++ libraries is > now available for Linux distribution maintainers and upstream developers > - "Upstream Tracker". It may be helpful for analyzing risks of libraries > updating in the Debian

Bug#589598: ITP: libhibernate-jbosscache -- Java library that provides integration of Hibernate with JBossCache

2010-07-18 Thread Miguel Landaeta
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Miguel Landaeta * Package name: libhibernate-jbosscache Version : 3.3.2.GA Upstream Author : Red Hat Middleware LLC * URL : http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/hibernate/core/tags/hibernate-3.3.2.GA/cache-jbosscache/ * License

KVM and 2.6.32-5-amd64

2010-07-18 Thread Russell Coker
I recently tried to start a KVM image with the same script as I had used previously. I had just upgraded the host (which tracks unstable) from 2.6.32-4 to 2.6.32-5, the virtual machine had been running 2.6.32-5-amd64 for a while (but maybe not the very latest version). The result was that the

Re: Priority dependence

2010-07-18 Thread Russ Allbery
Neil Williams writes: > It is very worthwhile having a clear division between Required and > Important. A typical bootstrap should include Required but there is no > need for any of the important packages and any which may be useful can > be added explicitly. That's probably part of what I'm mis

Re: Priority dependence

2010-07-18 Thread Michael Banck
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 10:14:57PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 11:04:10 -0700 > Russ Allbery wrote: > > > Frans Pop writes: > > > > > Maybe we should consider changing the default prio for all library > > > packages to optional or lower, except for specific cases (e.g. lib

Re: Priority dependence

2010-07-18 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 11:04:10 -0700 Russ Allbery wrote: > Frans Pop writes: > > > Maybe we should consider changing the default prio for all library > > packages to optional or lower, except for specific cases (e.g. libc) > > where the lib itself can actually be considered part of the core syste

Bug#589567: ITP: plasma-widget-adjustableclock -- This plasma widget shows date and time in adjustable format using rich text.

2010-07-18 Thread Davi
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Davi * Package name: plasma-widget-adjustableclock Version : 2.2-3 Upstream Author : Alessandro Ghersi * URL : http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Adjustable+Clock?content=92825 * License : GPL version 2 Programm

Re: Priority dependence

2010-07-18 Thread Frans Pop
Russ Allbery wrote: > [...] or between optional and extra, for *any* package? I must admit that I've never seen the practical value of that distinction. As to the rest of your message: it certainly seems worth discussing this in a bit wider context. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-re

Re: Priority dependence

2010-07-18 Thread Russ Allbery
Frans Pop writes: > I've been wondering for some time if this policy isn't outdated and > should maybe be relaxed, at least for library packages. > I suspect the origin of the policy is that in olden days tools like > debootstrap and debian-cd relied exclusively on priority to get the > contents

Re: Priority dependence

2010-07-18 Thread Frans Pop
Steve M. Robbins wrote: > This is due to Debian Policy 2.5: > > Packages must not depend on packages with lower priority values > (excluding build-time dependencies). In order to ensure this, the > priorities of one or more packages may need to be adjusted. > > Why is this the policy? Why does

Re: Priority dependence

2010-07-18 Thread Russ Allbery
"Steve M. Robbins" writes: > This is due to Debian Policy 2.5: > Packages must not depend on packages with lower priority values > (excluding build-time dependencies). In order to ensure this, the > priorities of one or more packages may need to be adjusted. > Why is this the po

Priority dependence

2010-07-18 Thread Steve M. Robbins
Hi, The discussion surrounding why aptitude is priority 'important' [1] is very enlightening. Thanks to all contributors. With respect to the priority of libboost-iostreams, the consensus seems to be to raise it. On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 02:18:52AM +0200, Steve Langasek wrote: > [ ... ] on ba

Bug#589545: ITP: xdot -- interactive viewer for Graphviz dot files

2010-07-18 Thread Stefano Rivera
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stefano Rivera * Package name: xdot Version : 0.4 Upstream Author : Jose Fonseca * URL : http://code.google.com/p/jrfonseca/wiki/XDot * License : LGPL-3+ Programming Lang: Python Description : interactive viewer

Re: packages being essential but having stuff in /usr/?!

2010-07-18 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Fri, 16 Jul 2010, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > > Having $remote_fs is a really nice way to secure that /usr/-stuff is > > there (and also other stuff like /var...) > > It is the *only* supported way, AFAIK... Erk. Look at $local_f

Re: packages being essential but having stuff in /usr/?!

2010-07-18 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > Having $remote_fs is a really nice way to secure that /usr/-stuff is > there (and also other stuff like /var...) It is the *only* supported way, AFAIK... > As far as I understand - please correct me if I'm wrong - the root-fs is > just guaran

Re: packages being essential but having stuff in /usr/?!

2010-07-18 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > But I think: > 1) the policy description of essential should be clarified then, as now Essential means that the *package* essential functionality (not all of its contents or functionality) has to be available at all times in the lifetime of th

Re: aptitude (priority important) depends on libboost-iostreams (priority optional)

2010-07-18 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:13:11PM -0500, Steve M. Robbins wrote: > So while raising Boost will "solve" the issue, it seems to me to be > a recipe for runaway priority inflation. > > Is there any central authority to vet priority changes? Indeed, I think this needs wider attention, next to the ap

Re: aptitude (priority important) depends on libboost-iostreams (priority optional)

2010-07-18 Thread Jonathan Wiltshire
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 02:38:50AM +0200, Steve Langasek wrote: > > - When I type 'aptitude install foo', *removing* foo instead of upgrading > is not a valid solution and should never be offered. It's still an outstanding (and irritating) bug as late as yesterday's sid... -- Jonathan Wi

Re: packages being essential but having stuff in /usr/?!

2010-07-18 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > Is there any policy document or that like,... which mandates: > a) What is guaranteed to be available in initramfs images? Not much is guaranteed to be available in initramfs, unless you arranged for it to be, AFAIK. > b) What is guaranteed t

Re: packages being essential but having stuff in /usr/?!

2010-07-18 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010, Russ Allbery wrote: > Early system startup (before $remote_fs) is a weird and special > environment, and most services should just depend on $remote_fs and not > worry about it. Normally they have to anyway since the daemon being > started is in /usr. Services that do not dep

Re: Aptitude wishlist bug with a package - how to get it merged?

2010-07-18 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 08 Jul 2010, Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo wrote: > I've submitted bug 497206 for aptitude with a patch attached almost two > years ago. It's a new feature, to allow packages to be grouped by > source. It's usually easier to upgrade all packages from the same > source, without having to lo

Re: udev: chown of /dev/ppp

2010-07-18 Thread Russell Coker
On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, "Hans-J. Ullrich" wrote: > /usr/sbin/pppd: using the noauth option requires root privileges > > This message was the reason for my very first report. What did I miss? Is > there something else I should check? The man page gives some information on this. If that isn't enoug

udev: chown of /dev/ppp

2010-07-18 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Hia Marco andf Russell, tahnk you very much for your help. Well, I checked out and changed all permissions as it should be. The environment is now as follows: 1. /usr/sbin/pppd is now set 0475 with owner root:dip -rwsr-xr-- 1 root dip 269156 28. Nov 2008 /usr/sbin/pppd 2. The normal user is

Re: aptitude (priority important) depends on libboost-iostreams (priority optional)

2010-07-18 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:59:45AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > Steve Langasek wrote: > > This manual represents the opinion of a single developer. > And what does that have to do with the price of bananas in Iceland? > The fact that aptitude is currently the recommended tool for package > manageme

Re: aptitude (priority important) depends on libboost-iostreams (priority optional)

2010-07-18 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 09:17:38PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > I wouldn't place any of Boost in that category. In fact, I wouldn't > > place "aptitude" in that category, either. > aptitude was historically the recommended tool to use for upgrades because > it had the best dependency resolver f

Re: Bootloaders BoF at DebConf?

2010-07-18 Thread Joachim Wiedorn
Hello, Colin Watson wrote on 2010-06-21 22:22: > There've been several bootloader-related threads here of late, and > grub2, lilo, and syslinux all seem to have fairly active work happening > on them. (For all I know the same may be true of some of the > bootloaders specific to non-x86 architec