On Wed, 26 May 2010 23:44:52 +0200
Iustin Pop wrote:
> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:34:32PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote:
> > I think the announcement is wrong, we cannot ever expect every
> > single package to be touched for any single change. We don't even
> > do that when libc changes SONAME - tha
On Thu, 27 May 2010 00:16:01 +0200
Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
Putting the list back into the loop.
> On 26/05/10 23:34, Neil Williams wrote:
> > Declaring a format mandates touching every single package because
> > the vast majority of packages are currently dpkg source format 1.0
> > ONLY be
On 2010-05-26, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Mittwoch, 26. Mai 2010, Philipp Kern wrote:
>> ETOPIC. You have to specify the format in the package. Nowhere they
>> write that 1.0 will disappear. And they say "in the long term" too, so
>> "debian/source/format" should be propagating naturally into mo
Dear all,
I am getting confused by the different meanings of the Format fields and the
format file in the Debian source packages and their accompanying files.
[In the paragraphs below, I name the files according to Policy 3.8.4 §5]
* In Debian changes files, Format is currently 1.8; I suppose t
Paul Vojta, le Thu 27 May 2010 00:47:14 +, a écrit :
> In article ,
> Ferenc Wagner wrote:
> >
> >Sorry, I don't trust in the future of LILO myself. If there's anything
> >which only LILO can do, I recommend you start complaining on the
> >Syslinux and the Grub mailing lists. I suppose it w
"Jaldhar H. Vyas" wrote:
>Scott Kitterman kitterman.com> writes:
>
>>
>> Additionally, Ubuntu ships a distro specific binary called dovecot-postfix
>> that implements part of this
>> vision already. We'd love to see it in Debian if the dovecot maintainer is
>> interested.
>>
>
>The dovec
Scott Kitterman kitterman.com> writes:
>
> Additionally, Ubuntu ships a distro specific binary called dovecot-postfix
> that implements part of this
> vision already. We'd love to see it in Debian if the dovecot maintainer is
> interested.
>
The dovecot maintainer might be interested if so
In article ,
Ferenc Wagner wrote:
>
>Sorry, I don't trust in the future of LILO myself. If there's anything
>which only LILO can do, I recommend you start complaining on the
>Syslinux and the Grub mailing lists. I suppose it will be heard.
Does either grub2 or syslinux allow for single-key boo
"Roberto C. Sánchez" wrote:
>On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 06:42:50PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote:
>> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:58:26PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>> > Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote:
>> > > I'm installing apache2 and have a web server - more or less working,
>> > > I'm installing dh
Hi,
On Mittwoch, 26. Mai 2010, Philipp Kern wrote:
> ETOPIC. You have to specify the format in the package. Nowhere they write
> that 1.0 will disappear. And they say "in the long term" too, so
> "debian/source/format" should be propagating naturally into most of the
> packages due to the linti
Am Tue, 25 May 2010 16:43:21 -0700
schrieb Steve Langasek :
> I am not willing to diverge from upstream on this as this
> would mean admins coming from other systems may get an unpleasant
> surprise when they find that Debian gives a more relaxed umask than
> they were expecting in some corner cas
This one time, at band camp, Tollef Fog Heen said:
> The problem is when you then run addgroup foo, every user created
> after that will not be considered to be a UPG user. Perhaps addgroup
> shouldn't use the same gid range as what we are using for users, to
> make this problem at least smaller,
This one time, at band camp, Michael Banck said:
> In light of UPG, we might want to revisit the default here as well,
> maybe it makes sense to have your $HOME not world-readable be the
> default?
That is already trivailly settable and not a debate likely to bring much
new to the table on either
This one time, at band camp, Roger Leigh said:
> How will adduser cope with group addition; does it skip UIDs until
> it finds an unused unique UID/GID pair?
That certainly is the only approach that makes sense - it has the
benefit of simplicity, if not elegance.
Cheers,
--
Wed, 26 May 2010 23:26:37 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen:
> Perhaps addgroup
> shouldn't use the same gid range as what we are using for users, to
> make this problem at least smaller, if not make it go away.
Hm, that may be another option to allign UIDs and GIDs, you'd create
split max. UID/GID amounts t
Am Wed, 26 May 2010 14:25:58 +0200
schrieb Michael Banck :
> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 02:36:53AM +0200, C. Gatzemeier wrote:
> > Am Tue, 25 May 2010 22:47:51 +0200
> > schrieb Harald Braumann :
> > > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 10:09:35PM +0200, C. Gatzemeier wrote:
> > > > The path into your home dire
Am Wed, 26 May 2010 18:05:32 +0100
schrieb Roger Leigh :
> How will adduser cope with group addition; does it skip UIDs until
> it finds an unused unique UID/GID pair?
Maybe just skip taken GIDs by default? (every user has one, less gap
more likely to be usable for a user account), starting +1 f
Am Wed, 26 May 2010 18:05:32 +0100
schrieb Roger Leigh :
> What, exactly, does comparing the UID and GID get you? I.e. what
> is is protecting you against? If you're using a system such as
> Debian, which has created a group by the same name for many years,
> you're in no danger
AFAIU it is mea
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:34:32PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote:
> On Wed, 26 May 2010 22:59:25 +0200
> Iustin Pop wrote:
>
> > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:43:36PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> > > On 05/24/2010 11:05 AM, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > > > * The plan concerning dpkg-source and the def
]] Michael Banck
| On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:58:26PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
| > Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote:
| > > I'm installing apache2 and have a web server - more or less working,
| > > I'm installing dhelp and ... magic, magic ... it extends the running
| > > web-server to serve the
On Wed, 26 May 2010 22:59:25 +0200
Iustin Pop wrote:
> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:43:36PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> > On 05/24/2010 11:05 AM, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > > * The plan concerning dpkg-source and the default source format
> > > has been clarified. In the long term, the default
]] "C. Gatzemeier"
| So yes, you can setup UPGs with UID!=GID, but then you'll also
| have to set the umask manually to make it work (globally or in gecos or
| ldap etc.).
|
| The UID==GID and username==groupname restriction of the
| pam_umask's "usergroups" option ensures that the umask is only
]] Josselin Mouette
| Le samedi 22 mai 2010 à 08:43 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen a écrit :
| > | I don't see what you mean by "iffy" tabbed browsing, what's wrong with
| > | tabbed browsing in Epiphany?
| >
| > For me, at least two things:
| >
| > - C-TAB/C-S-TAB doesn't work for switching tabs, I ha
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:43:36PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> On 05/24/2010 11:05 AM, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > The versions 1.15.6 and 1.15.7 of dpkg introduced several important changes.
> > Let's skim over them:
> [...]
> > * dpkg-dev provides a new script called dpkg-build
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:43:36PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> On 05/24/2010 11:05 AM, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > * The plan concerning dpkg-source and the default source format has been
> > clarified. In the long term, the default format will disappear and
> > debian/source/format will
On 2010-05-26, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>> * The plan concerning dpkg-source and the default source format has been
>> clarified. In the long term, the default format will disappear and
>> debian/source/format will become mandatory. The lintian tag
>> missing-debian-source-format[2] will
On 05/24/2010 11:05 AM, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Hello,
>
> The versions 1.15.6 and 1.15.7 of dpkg introduced several important changes.
> Let's skim over them:
[...]
> * dpkg-dev provides a new script called dpkg-buildflags that packages
> should use in debian/rules to retrieve the default
On 05/26/2010 02:29 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
[snip]
Anyway, postfix is NOT the only package that we shall consider modifying
here. As per my original post, there's loads of other components that
are to configure as well. The question is: is there a will to do this
job by other maintainers. I am
Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 05/26/2010 11:42 AM, Michael Banck wrote:
>> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:58:26PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>>> Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote:
I'm installing apache2 and have a web server - more or less working,
I'm installing dhelp and ... magic, magic ... it ext
Thomas: Sorry for the private mail, I hit the wrong reply button.
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:58:26PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote:
> > I'm installing apache2 and have a web server - more or less working,
> > I'm installing dhelp and ... magic, magic ... it extends t
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 14:59:41 -0300, Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva wrote:
> Hi Brian.
>
> Excerpts from brian m. carlson's message of Qua Mai 26 14:53:48 -0300 2010:
> > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 02:07:22PM -0300, Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva wrote:
> > > Package: wnpp
> > > Severity: wishlist
> >
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On 05/26/2010 10:45 AM, Bjørn Mork wrote:
> That's the single feature I misseded. Thanks.
welcome.
> Although it would be even better if it was possible to include some
> fixed part in it, while keeping most of it auto updated. I tested the
> extlinux package after reading about it yesterday, a
Hi,
- "brian m. carlson" wrote:
> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 02:07:22PM -0300, Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva
> wrote:
> > Package: wnpp
> > Severity: wishlist
> > Owner: "Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva"
> >
> > * Package name: haskell-gnomevfs
> > Version : 0.11.0
> > Upstream Auth
Hi Brian.
Excerpts from brian m. carlson's message of Qua Mai 26 14:53:48 -0300 2010:
> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 02:07:22PM -0300, Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva wrote:
> > Package: wnpp
> > Severity: wishlist
> > Owner: "Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva"
> >
> > * Package name: haskell-gnomevfs
> >
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 02:07:22PM -0300, Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> Owner: "Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva"
>
> * Package name: haskell-gnomevfs
> Version : 0.11.0
> Upstream Author : Duncan Coutts
> * URL : http://www.haske
On 05/26/2010 11:42 AM, Michael Banck wrote:
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:58:26PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote:
I'm installing apache2 and have a web server - more or less working,
I'm installing dhelp and ... magic, magic ... it extends the running
web-server to ser
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Descrip
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 06:42:50PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote:
> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:58:26PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> > Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote:
> > > I'm installing apache2 and have a web server - more or less working,
> > > I'm installing dhelp and ... magic, magic ... it exten
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
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Upstream Author : Duncan Coutts
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* License : LGPL-2.1+
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On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 02:22:43PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 01:00:49PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
> > > This one time, at band camp, Steve Langasek said:
> > > > pam_umask requires both username == primary group name and uid == gid
> > > > before it will assume
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:58:26PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote:
> > I'm installing apache2 and have a web server - more or less working,
> > I'm installing dhelp and ... magic, magic ... it extends the running
> > web-server to serve the dhelp content as well. I'm i
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 02:36:53AM +0200, C. Gatzemeier wrote:
> Am Tue, 25 May 2010 22:47:51 +0200
> schrieb Harald Braumann :
> > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 10:09:35PM +0200, C. Gatzemeier wrote:
> > > The path into your home directory is not restricted, just as the
> > > path others can take to rin
Hi,
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 01:00:49PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
> > This one time, at band camp, Steve Langasek said:
> > > pam_umask requires both username == primary group name and uid == gid
> > > before it will assume UPG are in place when using its 'usergroups'
> > > option,
>
> I'd be int
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Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote:
> I'm installing apache2 and have a web server - more or less working,
> I'm installing dhelp and ... magic, magic ... it extends the running
> web-server to serve the dhelp content as well. I'm installing smb2www
> and it extends the running web-server to act as smb
On Wednesday 26 May 2010 03:00:58 Michael Meskes wrote:
> Don't you think we should run the test *after* the patches got applied?
That's done if the package uses format 3.0 (quilt).
Regards,
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On Wednesday 26 May 2010 15:58:51 Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote:
> Why would you like to go another way with mail servers?
> Get maintainer support for such conf.d directories, maybe get upstream
> support for such conf.d mimics (sendmail most likely won't need it -
> some m4 magic and triggers wil
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Jacob Sparre Andersen wrote:
> Ludovic Brenta wrote:
>
>> Over the last two weeks I have been testing upgrades of
>> Ada packages from Lenny to Sid and Squeeze in a chroot.
>> The picture is not as pretty as it should be. In a
>> nutshell, when you change /etc/apt/sources.list from lenny
>>
Le Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:58:05AM +0200, Adam Borowski a écrit :
> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 04:00:56PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> >
> > A quick apt-file search indicates that at least two other packages (CCed)
> > may
> > be using the gzstream library, k3d and freecad. So it seems that it wou
Thomas Goirand wrote:
> What happens here is that, if you take a normal Debian system, then
> install postfix, then let's say amavis, they don't talk to each other.
...
> much spams. It is also totally unrealistic to say that it's up to the
> system administrator to configure everything by hand. I
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On Wed, 26 May 2010 00:23:04 -0400 (EDT), Daniel Baumann wrote:
> On 05/26/2010 03:36 AM, Stephen Powell wrote:
>> ...
>> That works for now; but if a package upgrade for extlinux is ever
>> downloaded, I'm afraid that new versions of the hook scripts will
>> be copied into these directories which
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1/ Briefly, who am I
My first Debian package was for the web hosting control panel (a web
interface) that my company released in open source. I'm the main
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On mercredi 26 mai 2010 02:39:52 Raphael Geissert wrote:
[SNIP]
>
> Yes, $BASH_SOMETHING is just used to make it easier to see that the
> following code (probably a bashism) is only executed after checking the
> shell is actually bash. That and the other FP are the most common ones, yet
> not that
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 08:40:26AM +0100, Stephen Gran wrote:
> This one time, at band camp, Steve Langasek said:
> > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:30:49PM +0100, Stephen Gran wrote:
> > > This one time, at band camp, Michael Banck said:
> >
> > > > Seems worthwhile to change adduser how you suggest
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I request an adopter for the fusecompress package. Overall the packaging
is in pretty good shape. There are a couple of bugs (forwarded upstream)
that need some love.
Upstream also has support for lzma in the git repo but I have not
bothered backporting that.
The p
On 26/05/10 13:14, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> On 26/05/10 at 11:55 +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
>> Right. That's exactly why I suggested debdiffing the resulting binary
>> packages
>> from a new and an old dash.
>
> Are you volunteering? :-)
No. I'm not volunteering on adding LINENO support
On 26/05/10 at 11:55 +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
> On 26/05/10 08:07, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> > On 25/05/10 at 23:10 +0100, Neil Williams wrote:
> >> 124 source packages. Bad, but not as crazy as 1,540.
> >>
> >> (I've heard of off-by-one errors but off-by-one-order-of-magnitude is a
> >>
On 26/05/10 08:07, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> On 25/05/10 at 23:10 +0100, Neil Williams wrote:
>> 124 source packages. Bad, but not as crazy as 1,540.
>>
>> (I've heard of off-by-one errors but off-by-one-order-of-magnitude is a
>> stretch.)
>
> No. 124 is the number of packages that failed to build.
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:55:58PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> For example, almost all udebs are listed. Why? Because udebs execute
> busybox shell as /bin/sh, which happens to be fairly compatible with bash.
The busybox /bin/sh is also a dash, but a different version than the
dash package.
Bastia
Hello,
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 06:41:09PM +0100, Darren Salt wrote:
> I demand that Helge Kreutzmann may or may not have written...
> > Speaking both with my translator and my Debian Maintainer hat on, I can
> > state the following:
>
> > a) There are lots of "drive by" translators. Systems like l
Bjørn Mork, le Wed 26 May 2010 10:45:49 +0200, a écrit :
> Just comparing http://git.kernel.org/?p=boot/syslinux/syslinux.git with
> http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/r/grub/trunk/grub/ should IMHO give more
> than enough information to choose extlinux over grub2
I don't understand what you mean her
Daniel Baumann writes:
> as of current git, you can now use EXTLINUX_UPDATE=false in
> /etc/default/extlinux to prevent having update-extlinux do anything.
That's the single feature I misseded. Thanks.
Although it would be even better if it was possible to include some
fixed part in it, while
> > This doesn't necessarily mean that we are drowned by bashisms, as some of
> > those may already be fixed by Debian- provided packages or might affect
> > unused code
>
> s/packages/patches/
Don't you think we should run the test *after* the patches got applied?
Michael
--
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Mi
Ludovic Brenta wrote:
Over the last two weeks I have been testing upgrades of
Ada packages from Lenny to Sid and Squeeze in a chroot.
The picture is not as pretty as it should be. In a
nutshell, when you change /etc/apt/sources.list from lenny
to squeeze (unstable, actually) and do "aptitude
This one time, at band camp, Steve Langasek said:
> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:30:49PM +0100, Stephen Gran wrote:
> > This one time, at band camp, Michael Banck said:
>
> > > Seems worthwhile to change adduser how you suggest to me, is there
> > > a bug filed to this end?
>
> > adduser has had bu
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