Re: UPG and the default umask

2010-05-11 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Mittwoch, 12. Mai 2010, Noah Meyerhans wrote: > Right, our default setup is a strange and basically meaningless blend of > two different approaches to user primary groups. [...] > Either of these approaches is OK. User's files are not writable by > anybody but that user unless explicit ste

Re: ITP: gnome-media-player -- GNOME Media Player is a simple media player for GNOME that supports playing media using the vlc, xine and gstreamer engines.

2010-05-11 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
On Sun, 2010-05-09 at 17:58 +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 18:25:15 +0300, Bilal Akhtar wrote: > > > Package name: gnome-media-player I find the package name extremely misleading: There is already a "Gnome Media Player": Gnome's Totem. BTW, do we really need yet anoth

Re: chromium-browser from experimental has included h.264 by default?

2010-05-11 Thread Giuseppe Iuculano
Il 12/05/2010 06:38, Reinhard Tartler ha scritto: > TBH, I'm very skeptical. While I'm not sure why google has decided to > choose astrange's branch/fork, I fear that there have been too many > changes to the external public API that this is not going to work out. > I'm basing this opinion on the G

Re: chromium-browser from experimental has included h.264 by default?

2010-05-11 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2010-05-11, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > I understand that the security team might be skeptical about security > support, but IIRC past vetoes from the security team came from software > with bad _history_ of security support, while in this case it would seem > a preemptive move, isn't it? It i

Re: UPG and the default umask

2010-05-11 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 06:09:58PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > UPG without a umask of 002 is pointless. One may as well just put all > users in a users group. Right, our default setup is a strange and basically meaningless blend of two different approaches to user primary groups. One approach w

Re: chromium-browser from experimental has included h.264 by default?

2010-05-11 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 00:29:02 (CEST), Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 08:55:17PM +0200, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: >> > Surely not. Chromium ships a *private* copy of ffmpeg, more precisely, a >> > fork of ffmpeg called ffmpeg-mt. Debian does not include ffmpeg-mt >> > becaus

Re: UPG and the default umask

2010-05-11 Thread Aaron Toponce
On 05/11/2010 07:09 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: > Aaron already explained this, but I was confused for quite some time about > the point of UPG and I'm not sure I would have gotten it from his > explanation, so let me say basically the same thing he said in different > words. > > The purpose of UPG is

Re: UPG and the default umask

2010-05-11 Thread Russ Allbery
Julien Cristau writes: > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:14:00 -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote: >> I guess I'm more or less curious why we're still using this outdated >> umask value with UPG. What would it take for Debian to update our >> default umask to match the UPG scheme? Is this doable for Sqeeze? A

Re: UPG and the default umask

2010-05-11 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:40:58AM -0600, Aaron Toponce a écrit : > On 5/10/2010 10:23 AM, Julien Cristau wrote: > > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:14:00 -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote: > > Are there reasons for making the switch? With user groups, umask 002 or > > 022 doesn't make a difference. To switc

Re: chromium-browser from experimental has included h.264 by default?

2010-05-11 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 23:53:51 +0200, Giuseppe Iuculano wrote: > Il 11/05/2010 17:35, Ben Hutchings ha scritto: > > > How can you expect this to work? The ABI of the system ffmpeg libraries > > is not going to match the ABI defined by the bundled headers. You must > > patch chromium to work w

Re: chromium-browser from experimental has included h.264 by default?

2010-05-11 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 08:55:17PM +0200, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > > Surely not. Chromium ships a *private* copy of ffmpeg, more precisely, a > > fork of ffmpeg called ffmpeg-mt. Debian does not include ffmpeg-mt > > because of bug #575600 (tagged wontfix). Moreover, Debian's copy of > > ffmpeg

Bug#581244: ITP: poliqarp -- utilities for large corpora processing

2010-05-11 Thread Jakub Wilk
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jakub Wilk * Package name: poliqarp Version : 1.3.9 (yet to be released) Upstream Author : Jakub Wilk et al. * URL : http://poliqarp.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPLv2 Programming Lang: C Description : suite of

Re: chromium-browser from experimental has included h.264 by default?

2010-05-11 Thread Giuseppe Iuculano
Il 11/05/2010 17:35, Ben Hutchings ha scritto: > How can you expect this to work? The ABI of the system ffmpeg libraries > is not going to match the ABI defined by the bundled headers. You must > patch chromium to work with the system ffmpeg headers. chromium doesn't link against the ffmpeg lib

Re: snapshot.debian.org implications for you

2010-05-11 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Tue, 11 May 2010, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 09:26:25AM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote: > > Therefore if you uploaded something that is not redistributable please > > file a bug against the snapshot.debian.org pseudo-package asking for > > removal: > > fair enou

Re: chromium-browser from experimental has included h.264 by default?

2010-05-11 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
On 2010-05-11, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 22:36:00 (CEST), Giuseppe Iuculano wrote: > >> Chromium in Debian is built against the system FFmpeg headers via >> pkg-config. This means when Chromium is launched it will assume that >> FFmpeg is present in the system library path

Re: chromium-browser from experimental has included h.264 by default?, Re: chromium-browser from experimental has included h.264 by default?

2010-05-11 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 17:27:31 (CEST), Giuseppe Iuculano wrote: > severity 580947 important > thanks For the record, after reading your latest mail, I still disagree with this assessment, but won't play BTW ping pong. > Il 11/05/2010 10:44, Reinhard Tartler ha scritto: >> I can only assume tha

Re: UPG and the default umask

2010-05-11 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, Am Di den 11. Mai 2010 um 17:13 schrieb Aaron Toponce: > > You can never trust anybody for giving him rights to _all_ of your > > files. So this assuming is never true and a user will not have any > > benefit of this group if the umask is 002! >

pls help, hppa FTBFS: /usr/lib/libatlas.so.3gf: undefined symbol: __canonicalize_funcptr_for_compare

2010-05-11 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Dear Everyone, bug report (from myself to myself) in question: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=581204 boils down to ImportError: /usr/lib/libatlas.so.3gf: undefined symbol: __canonicalize_funcptr_for_compare and when looking at (sid)y...@paer:/home/yoh/nipy/nipy-0.1.2+201005

Re: UPG and the default umask

2010-05-11 Thread Aaron Toponce
On 5/10/2010 4:46 PM, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > You can never trust anybody for giving him rights to _all_ of your > files. So this assuming is never true and a user will not have any > benefit of this group if the umask is 002! I trust my wife to all of my files. >> If you don't trust users in your

Re: Bug#580814: Parallellizing the boot in Debian Squeeze - ready for wider testing

2010-05-11 Thread Luk Claes
On 05/11/2010 01:09 PM, Julian Andres Klode wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:49:46PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:37:56 +0200, Julian Andres Klode wrote: On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 05:25:16PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: Is it really a good idea to have init depend

Re: UPG and the default umask

2010-05-11 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 11 May 2010, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 05:34:32PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > > On Mon, 10 May 2010, Aaron Toponce wrote: > > > If the default umask is '0002' on a UPG system, > > > then this checklist item doesn't need to be worried about. > > > If you want to use

Re: Bug#580947: chromium-browser from experimental has included h.264 by default?

2010-05-11 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 17:27:31 +0200, Giuseppe Iuculano wrote: > There was another solution, and this is now adopted in the latest > experimental package, Compile with use_system_ffmpeg=1 and > build_ffmpegsumo=0, but use the in-sources include path for headers, see > [1] and [2]. > > In this w

Re: chromium-browser from experimental has included h.264 by default?

2010-05-11 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 05:27:31PM +0200, Giuseppe Iuculano wrote: [...] > chromium doesn't compile with the current version of ffmpeg in unstable > because it is too outdated, this means I had three choices: > > - compile with use_system_ffmpeg=0 and build_ffmpegsumo=0 (this means > drop ffmpeg s

Re: chromium-browser from experimental has included h.264 by default?

2010-05-11 Thread Giuseppe Iuculano
severity 580947 important thanks Il 11/05/2010 10:44, Reinhard Tartler ha scritto: > checking [2], reveals that I'm partly wrong. There is an in-source copy > of ffmpeg, that there is an option 'use_system_ffmpeg=1' passed to the > buildscript. This indicates that I indeed missed that upstream now

Re: snapshot.debian.org implications for you

2010-05-11 Thread Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva
Hi. Excerpts from Hector Oron's message of Ter Mai 11 05:02:34 -0300 2010: (...) > 2010/5/11 Patrick Schoenfeld : > > > > fair enough to request that responsibility from the maintainers. > > But wouldn't it be a less error-prove procedure to handle > > snapshot removals while processing RM bugs ag

Bug#581184: ITP: nvidia-cuda-toolkit -- NVIDIA CUDA toolkit

2010-05-11 Thread Andreas Beckmann
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andreas Beckmann Owner: Andreas Beckmann * Package name: nvidia-cuda-toolkit Version : 2.3 / 3.0 Upstream Author : NVIDIA Corporation * URL : http://www.nvidia.com/CUDA * License : non-free, NVIDIA Programming Lang: b

DASIP 2010 > Call for Papers - Extended Deadline - May 28, 2010

2010-05-11 Thread training
== CALL FOR CONTRIBUTIONS == EXTENDED SUBMISSION DEADLINE: MAY 28, 2010

DASIP 2010 > Call for Papers - Extended Deadline - May 28, 2010

2010-05-11 Thread training
== CALL FOR CONTRIBUTIONS == EXTENDED SUBMISSION DEADLINE: MAY 28, 2010

Re: Bug#580814: Parallellizing the boot in Debian Squeeze - ready for wider testing

2010-05-11 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Julian Andres Klode | On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 05:25:16PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | > I am so far just testing on a singe machine, but it's my firm belief | > that it's possible to have a fully functional systemd in squeeze. | | Only if #579755 is solved. While testing systemd on Debian,

Re: Bug#580814: Parallellizing the boot in Debian Squeeze - ready for wider testing

2010-05-11 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:49:46PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:37:56 +0200, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > > > On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 05:25:16PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > > I am so far just testing on a singe machine, but it's my firm belief > > > that it's pos

Re: Bug#580814: Parallellizing the boot in Debian Squeeze - ready for wider testing

2010-05-11 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:37:56 +0200, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 05:25:16PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > I am so far just testing on a singe machine, but it's my firm belief > > that it's possible to have a fully functional systemd in squeeze. > > Only if #579755

Re: Bug#580814: Parallellizing the boot in Debian Squeeze - ready for wider testing

2010-05-11 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 05:25:16PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > I am so far just testing on a singe machine, but it's my firm belief > that it's possible to have a fully functional systemd in squeeze. Only if #579755 is solved. While testing systemd on Debian, I found out that the option CONFIG

Re: UPG and the default umask

2010-05-11 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 05:34:32PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Mon, 10 May 2010, Aaron Toponce wrote: > > If the default umask is '0002' on a UPG system, > > then this checklist item doesn't need to be worried about. > If you want to use usergroups by default, add something like: > session o

Re: An ITP looks like forgotten

2010-05-11 Thread Tobi
Am 11.05.2010 10:41, schrieb Cleto Martin Angelina: The bug #539568 is an ITP for a C++ sockets library. The ITP was created on Augus'09. I'm interested in this package too, and I wrote an email to the bug author and I've received that his email does not exists. In this cases, what should be do

Re: An ITP looks like forgotten

2010-05-11 Thread Jonathan Wiltshire
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:41:34AM +0200, Cleto Martin Angelina wrote: > The bug #539568 is an ITP for a C++ sockets library. The ITP was > created on Augus'09. I'm interested in this package too, and I wrote > an email to the bug author and I've received that his email does not > exists. In this

Re: chromium-browser from experimental has included h.264 by default?

2010-05-11 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:22:02 (CEST), Philipp Kern wrote: > On 2010-05-11, Reinhard Tartler wrote: >> [1] http://experimental.ftbfs.de/chromium-browser (unavailable at time >> of writing) > > experimental.ftbfs.de is down for good. I guess you meant [0] or similar. > > Kind regards, > Phi

An ITP looks like forgotten

2010-05-11 Thread Cleto Martin Angelina
Hi! The bug #539568 is an ITP for a C++ sockets library. The ITP was created on Augus'09. I'm interested in this package too, and I wrote an email to the bug author and I've received that his email does not exists. In this cases, what should be done? Thanks. Regards, Cleto. -- To UNSUBSCRIB

Re: chromium-browser from experimental has included h.264 by default?

2010-05-11 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Hi, On 11/05/10 10:13, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > [1] http://experimental.ftbfs.de/chromium-browser (unavailable at time > of writing) Experimental is now on buildd.d.o, see https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=chromium-browser&suite=experimental Cheers, Emilio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: chromium-browser from experimental has included h.264 by default?

2010-05-11 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2010-05-11, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > [1] http://experimental.ftbfs.de/chromium-browser (unavailable at time > of writing) experimental.ftbfs.de is down for good. I guess you meant [0] or similar. Kind regards, Philipp Kern [0] https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=chromium-br

Bug#581158: ITP: mozc -- Mozc engine for IBus

2010-05-11 Thread Nobuhiro Iwamatsu
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Nobuhiro Iwamatsu Owner: Nobuhiro Iwamatsu * Package name: mozc Version : 0.1svn13 Upstream Author : Google Inc. * URL : http://code.google.com/p/mozc/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: C++ Description : Mozc en

Re: chromium-browser from experimental has included h.264 by default?

2010-05-11 Thread Reinhard Tartler
severity 580947 serious stop On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 07:39:12 (CEST), Joey Hess wrote: > Reinhard Tartler wrote: >> Surely not. Chromium ships a *private* copy of ffmpeg, more precisely, a >> fork of ffmpeg called ffmpeg-mt. Debian does not include ffmpeg-mt >> because of bug #575600 (tagged wont

Re: snapshot.debian.org implications for you

2010-05-11 Thread Hector Oron
Hi, 2010/5/11 Patrick Schoenfeld : > > fair enough to request that responsibility from the maintainers. > But wouldn't it be a less error-prove procedure to handle > snapshot removals while processing RM bugs against ftp.d.o? Would not that remove distributable packages which no longer belong t

Re: snapshot.debian.org implications for you

2010-05-11 Thread Patrick Schoenfeld
Hi, On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 09:26:25AM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote: > Therefore if you uploaded something that is not redistributable please > file a bug against the snapshot.debian.org pseudo-package asking for > removal: fair enough to request that responsibility from the maintainers. But woul