Re: where is /etc/hosts supposed to come from?

2009-12-27 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Brian May wrote: > On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 03:52:44AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > Considering that any non-trivial server needs to send email out, having > > a working FQDN configured is not "obsolete". > > I believe mail servers these days generally use /etc/mailname, not hostname -f > (althou

Re: quilt 3.0 source format and dpkg-source/dpkg-buildpackage

2009-12-27 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Mon, 28 Dec 2009, Norbert Preining wrote: > > Are you using --git-export-dir? It seems not, and that you build the > > package in-place. > > No, and it is nowhere mentioned on the wiki page. > > Mind that git-buildpackage with normal 1.0 source format does NOT pollute > the git repository

Re: where is /etc/hosts supposed to come from?

2009-12-27 Thread Brian May
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 03:52:44AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > Considering that any non-trivial server needs to send email out, having > a working FQDN configured is not "obsolete". I believe mail servers these days generally use /etc/mailname, not hostname -f (although hostname -f might be the d

Re: where is /etc/hosts supposed to come from?

2009-12-27 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Dec 28, Russell Coker wrote: > In the modern Internet where services such as EC2 are increasing in > popularity > in the vast majority of cases the purpose of a hostname is only for tracking > errors. If you are too lazy to have a script properly configure your servers it does not mean that

Re: Where is "upstream" zlib 1.2.3.4 coming from?

2009-12-27 Thread Paul Wise
2009/12/28 Török Edwin : > So where does Debian get these new zlib releases from? Please address your question to the Debian zlib maintainer instead of debian-devel. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: where is /etc/hosts supposed to come from?

2009-12-27 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009, Neil Williams wrote: > Various tools need 'hostname -f' to operate, so there will need to be > more in /etc/hosts than that - which is where things can get complex. A > hostname of some kind is going to be needed. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=562780 I've

Re: quilt 3.0 source format and dpkg-source/dpkg-buildpackage

2009-12-27 Thread Russ Allbery
Norbert Preining writes: > On Mo, 28 Dez 2009, Iustin Pop wrote: >> My .quiltrc includes this: >> >> QUILT_PATCHES=debian/patches > That is wrong, because I do other projects where I don't have my > patches in debian/patches ... > Is a DD expected to only use quilt in that mode? Arggg. No

Re: quilt 3.0 source format and dpkg-source/dpkg-buildpackage

2009-12-27 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mo, 28 Dez 2009, Iustin Pop wrote: > Sorry to hear about your bad experience. I use the same workflow, > git-buildpackage + 3.0 (quilt) and I have no problems so far. Good for you. > Are you using --git-export-dir? It seems not, and that you build the > package in-place. No, and it is nowhere

Re: quilt 3.0 source format and dpkg-source/dpkg-buildpackage

2009-12-27 Thread Iustin Pop
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 01:14:46AM +0100, Norbert Preining wrote: > Can someone of the proposers of this (nice? stupid? rubbish?) format > explain me please why on earth: > - git-buildpackage > - dpkg-buildpackage > - and in fact at the bottom dpkg-source > fuck around in my git repository, applyin

quilt 3.0 source format and dpkg-source/dpkg-buildpackage

2009-12-27 Thread Norbert Preining
Can someone of the proposers of this (nice? stupid? rubbish?) format explain me please why on earth: - git-buildpackage - dpkg-buildpackage - and in fact at the bottom dpkg-source fuck around in my git repository, applying patches, just for builing a source package? If someone is so kind and tell

Re: where is /etc/hosts supposed to come from?

2009-12-27 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 01:25:55PM -0800, Daniel Moerner wrote: > On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Russell Coker wrote: > > I've just done a debootstrap install of Lenny, and /etc/hosts doesn't exist. > > Where is /etc/hosts supposed to come from?  I think it should have something > > like the fo

Where is "upstream" zlib 1.2.3.4 coming from?

2009-12-27 Thread Török Edwin
Hi, The Debian changelog for zlib 1:1.2.3.4.dfsg-1 says it is a new upstream release: zlib (1:1.2.3.4.dfsg-1) unstable; urgency=low * New upstream release. However when I visit zlib.net (or zlib.org, or gzip.org/zlib they all redirect to zlib.net), it has the same old zlib 1.2.3 from 2005. No

Re: where is /etc/hosts supposed to come from?

2009-12-27 Thread Daniel Moerner
Hi, On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Russell Coker wrote: > I've just done a debootstrap install of Lenny, and /etc/hosts doesn't exist. > Where is /etc/hosts supposed to come from?  I think it should have something > like the following (copied from an ancient Debian install). > > 127.0.0.1    

Re: where is /etc/hosts supposed to come from?

2009-12-27 Thread Neil Williams
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 07:50:10 +1100 Russell Coker wrote: > I've just done a debootstrap install of Lenny, and /etc/hosts doesn't > exist. Where is /etc/hosts supposed to come from? Depending on the purpose of running debootstrap, it's either copied from the external system or generated by the in

Re: GDM, getty and VTs

2009-12-27 Thread Gaijin
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 01:37:03PM +0100, Mario Lang quoted: > Josselin Mouette writes: > > > it’s been a long-standing tradition on Linux to have 6 started getty > > processes, in tty1 to tty6. However this doesn’t correspond anymore to > > the way we use our machines. I use all six, a

where is /etc/hosts supposed to come from?

2009-12-27 Thread Russell Coker
I've just done a debootstrap install of Lenny, and /etc/hosts doesn't exist. Where is /etc/hosts supposed to come from? I think it should have something like the following (copied from an ancient Debian install). 127.0.0.1 localhost # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable h

Bug#562772: ITP: haskell-url -- Haskell library for working with URLs

2009-12-27 Thread Giovanni Mascellani
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Owner: mascell...@poisson.phc.unipi.it Package name: haskell-texmath Version: 2.1 Upstream Author: Iavor S. Diatchki URL: http://hackage.haskell.org/package/url License: BSD Description

Bug#562770: ITP: haskell-recaptcha -- Haskell interface to reCAPTCHA service

2009-12-27 Thread Giovanni Mascellani
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Owner: mascell...@poisson.phc.unipi.it Package name: haskell-recaptcha Version: 0.1 Upstream Author: John MacFarlane URL: http://hackage.haskell.org/package/recaptcha License: BSD Descr

Bug#562771: ITP: haskell-texmath -- Convert LaTeX math formulas to MathML

2009-12-27 Thread Giovanni Mascellani
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Owner: mascell...@poisson.phc.unipi.it Package name: haskell-texmath Version: 0.1.1 Upstream Author: John MacFarlane URL: http://hackage.haskell.org/package/texmath License: GPL-2+ Desc

Bug#562769: ITP: haskell-split -- Haskell library for splitting lists

2009-12-27 Thread Giovanni Mascellani
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Owner: mascell...@poisson.phc.unipi.it Package name: haskell-split Version: 0.1.2 Upstream Author: Brent Yorgey URL: http://hackage.haskell.org/package/split License: BSD Description: H

Re: Bug#545782: imagemagick-dbg: missing README.Debian to explain how programs are used

2009-12-27 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:26:43 -0200 "Nelson A. de Oliveira" wrote: > On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Jari Aalto > wrote: > > Repoening, this doesn't address the original bug report titled > > "missing README.Debian to explain how programs are used". Please > > provide instructions how to use th

Bug#562768: ITP: haskell-filestore -- Haskell interface for versioning file stores

2009-12-27 Thread Giovanni Mascellani
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Owner: mascell...@poisson.phc.unipi.it Package name: haskell-filestore Version: 0.3.4 Upstream Author: John MacFarlane, Gwern Branwen, Sebastiaan Visser URL: http://hackage.haskell.org/package/files

Re: Bug#545782: imagemagick-dbg: missing README.Debian to explain how programs are used

2009-12-27 Thread Nelson A. de Oliveira
Hi! On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Jari Aalto wrote: > Repoening, this doesn't address the original bug report titled "missing > README.Debian to explain how programs are used". Please provide > instructions how to use those files with gdb in order to examine > problems with imagemagick proble

Re: [Pkg-hpijs-devel] Bug#562194: hplip: hp-plugin writes to /usr/share

2009-12-27 Thread sean finney
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 10:34:26AM +, Tim Retout wrote: > On Sat, 2009-12-26 at 17:47 +1100, Mark Purcell wrote: > > On Thursday 24 December 2009 05:30:25 Tim Retout wrote: > > > hp-plugin downloads firmware and plugins into > > > /usr/share/hplip/data/{firmware,plugins}. To quote the FHS: > >

Bug#562760: ITP: haskell-xml -- A simple Haskell XML library

2009-12-27 Thread Giovanni Mascellani
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Owner: mascell...@poisson.phc.unipi.it Package name: haskell-xml Version: 1.3.5 Upstream Author: Iavor S. Diatchki URL: http://hackage.haskell.org/package/xml License: BSD Description:

Re: Bug#562143: apt is no longer in base system created by debootstrap?

2009-12-27 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 27 December 2009, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 01:39:28PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: > > From that perspective apt should be tagged Build-Essential. Simply > > because without apt you don't have a working build system. > > apt is not and never was needed to build a package an

Bug#562759: ITP: haskell-feed -- Haskell interface to RSS and Atom feeds

2009-12-27 Thread Giovanni Mascellani
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Owner: mascell...@poisson.phc.unipi.it Package name: haskell-feed Version: 0.3.7 Upstream Author: Sigbjorn Finne URL: http://hackage.haskell.org/package/feed License: BSD Description: H

Bug#562758: ITP: haskell-datetime -- Haskell library to convert date and time data among different formats

2009-12-27 Thread Giovanni Mascellani
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Owner: mascell...@poisson.phc.unipi.it Package name: haskell-hstringtemplate Version: 0.1 Upstream Author: Eric Sessoms URL: http://hackage.haskell.org/package/datetime License: GPL-3 D

Bug#562752: ITP: php-numbers-words -- a PEAR module providing methods for spelling numerals in words

2009-12-27 Thread Thomas Goirand
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Goirand * Package name: php-numbers-words Version : 0.16.1 Upstream Author : Marcelo Subtil Marcal * URL : http://pear.php.net/package/Numbers_Words * License : PHP 3.01 Programming Lang: PHP Description :

Bug#562751: ITP: php-text-password -- a PEAR module for creating passwords with PHP

2009-12-27 Thread Thomas Goirand
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Goirand * Package name: php-text-password Version : 1.1.1 Upstream Author : Martin Jansen * URL : http://pear.php.net/package/Text_Password * License : PHP 3.01 Programming Lang: PHP Description : a PEAR m

Bug#562749: ITP: php-image-text -- a PEAR module to do advanced text maipulations in images

2009-12-27 Thread Thomas Goirand
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Goirand * Package name: php-image-text Version : 0.6.0beta Upstream Author : Tobias Schlitt * URL : http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Text/ * License : PHP 3.01 Programming Lang: PHP Description : a PEAR m

Bug#562750: ITP: php-text-figlet -- a PEAR module for rendering text using FIGlet fonts

2009-12-27 Thread Thomas Goirand
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Goirand * Package name: php-text-figlet Version : 1.0.1 Upstream Author : Jan Schneider * URL : http://pear.php.net/package/Text_Figlet/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: PHP Description : a PEAR module fo

Bug#562747: ITP: php-text-captcha -- a PEAR module for generating CAPTCHAs

2009-12-27 Thread Thomas Goirand
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Goirand * Package name: php-text-captcha Version : 0.4.0 Upstream Author : Christian Wenz * URL : http://pear.php.net/package/Text_CAPTCHA * License : BSD Programming Lang: PHP Description : a PEAR module

Re: Bug#562143: apt is no longer in base system created by debootstrap?

2009-12-27 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 01:39:28PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: > Torsten Werner wrote: > > The Build-Essential: yes field has been updated 2 months ago to better > > match the declared Depends in the package build-essential as requested > > in bug #548801. > > It seems there is a misunderstanding abou

Re: Bug#562143: apt is no longer in base system created by debootstrap?

2009-12-27 Thread Frans Pop
Torsten Werner wrote: > The Build-Essential: yes field has been updated 2 months ago to better > match the declared Depends in the package build-essential as requested > in bug #548801. It seems there is a misunderstanding about the purpose of the Build-Essential flag then. Obviously it is not t

Re: package hierarchy system

2009-12-27 Thread Ivan Borzenkov
27 декабря 2009 08:10:59 Charles Plessy писали: > Le Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 04:02:27AM +0300, Ivan Borzenkov a écrit : > > Examples > > > > amarok (parent:-, application) > > amarok-common (parent:amapok, hide) > > amarok-utils (parent:amapok, hide) > > > > amarok > >

Re: Bug#562143: apt is no longer in base system created by debootstrap?

2009-12-27 Thread Torsten Werner
Julien Cristau schrieb: > -- Daniel Schepler Wed, 10 Mar 2004 02:29:27 -0800 > > I'm not sure how that can qualify as "new". Compared to some code in dak it is coming from the future. ;-) The Build-Essential: yes field has been updated 2 months ago to better match the declared Depends in the

Re: [Pkg-hpijs-devel] Bug#562194: hplip: hp-plugin writes to /usr/share

2009-12-27 Thread Tim Retout
On Sat, 2009-12-26 at 17:47 +1100, Mark Purcell wrote: > On Thursday 24 December 2009 05:30:25 Tim Retout wrote: > > hp-plugin downloads firmware and plugins into > > /usr/share/hplip/data/{firmware,plugins}. To quote the FHS: > > > > /var is specified here in order to make it possible to mount

Re: apt is no longer in base system created by debootstrap? (Re: Bug#562143: fails on cowbuilder --create)

2009-12-27 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 00:20:49 +0100, Luk Claes wrote: > Julien Cristau wrote: > > Are you saying people didn't check debootstrap before breaking it? > > AFAIK it was checked with running debootstrap which still works as > expected except for the new variants... > Are you kidding me? debootst