Work-needing packages report for Jan 4, 2008

2008-01-03 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 324 (new: 2) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 87 (new: 2) Total number of packages requeste

Re: Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-03 Thread Neil Williams
On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 18:28 +0100, Christian Perrier wrote: > Quoting Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > * Show the N: line with a count of overrides per package by default and > > provide an option to suppress this output if someone wants. > > > > * Don't show the N: line by default and p

Re: Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-03 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 08:55:06 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Wed, 02 Jan 2008, Russ Allbery wrote: > > > Currently on dpkg I have 4 N: lines: one per deb + one for the > > > .dsc. That clutters the output a bit too much to my taste. And ideally > > > it should be at the end of the output

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-03 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 10:48:01PM +0100, Gabor Gombas wrote: > On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 10:40:32AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > It's also, as commented already in the init script, recognized as a bug in > > the associated daemon. Fixing that bug would drop the need for the sleep, > > though i

Re: List of packages which should probably be Architecture: all

2008-01-03 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 10:51:16 +0100, Loïc Minier wrote: > On Wed, Jan 02, 2008, Raphael Geissert wrote: > >libdvb-dev (U) > > Only ships static libs; no idea why. That's due to #218387, #226985 and #359697. regards, guillem -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subje

Util-linux mount function source code

2008-01-03 Thread Dennis Nguyen
Hello, I would like to see the mount source code. I saw the mount.c module in the util-linux called mount function. It linked to the libc-2.6.so (I using kernel 2.6.23.8) I got the GNU libc source code but I could not find the called mount function. Could you show me where the mount function sour

Re: Bug#458819: ITP: nettee -- a network "tee" program

2008-01-03 Thread Joe Smith
"Joel Franco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Joel Franco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: nettee Version : 0.1.8 Upstream Author : David Mathog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://saf.bio.caltech.

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-03 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Kurt Roeckx] > Why is it using -18? Please change that to SIGCONT, it depends on the > arch what the value should be. See signal(7), which even mentions that > that is different for ppc/i386. Historical reasons and because that is what killall5 support, as I noticed you discovered shortly aft

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-03 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 12:16:28AM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 12:01:17AM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > > > # use SIGCONT/signal 18 to check if there are > > # processes left. No need to check the exit code > > # valu

Future Debian package candidate web pages: present and future

2008-01-03 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Hello! The two web pages "Packages being worked on" [1] and "Requested packages" [2] have several shortcomings: * No sorting by age * No importance/popularity tag of packages * No combined requested-or-worked-on (== not packaged) view * No easy status indicator, e.g. "license issues", "upstrea

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-03 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 12:01:17AM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > # use SIGCONT/signal 18 to check if there are > # processes left. No need to check the exit code > # value, because either killall5 work and it make > # sense t

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-03 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Gabor Gombas] > That may be a good safety measure. I think it is really hard to hit > the 5 second limit but when that happens it is very hard to diagnose > later what went wrong. So if we can increase the max. timeout > without imposing a real delay in the common case (i.e. when > everything shu

Re: List of packages which should probably be Architecture: all

2008-01-03 Thread Raphael Geissert
Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > Raphael Geissert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Brendan O'Dea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>perl-base > > That's a false positive. Please also take a look at Pre-Depends. Or > simply let off of this effort, the number of false positives is > enormous. The automated lis

Re: List of packages which should probably be Architecture: all

2008-01-03 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Raphael Geissert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Brendan O'Dea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >perl-base That's a false positive. Please also take a look at Pre-Depends. Or simply let off of this effort, the number of false positives is enormous. Marc -- BOFH #343: The ATM board has run out of 10 pound n

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-03 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 09:24:59PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > Btw, if the 5 second wait isn't long enough for sendsigs, we can > extend it. There is code there to make sure sendsigs terminates as > soon as the last process it tries to kill is dead, so we could > increase the timeout with

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-03 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 10:40:32AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > It's also, as commented already in the init script, recognized as a bug in > the associated daemon. Fixing that bug would drop the need for the sleep, > though if there's a possibility of SIGKILL coming before the daemon is done >

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-03 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > It's also, as commented already in the init script, recognized as a bug in ^^ > the associated daemon. Fixing that bug would drop the need for the sleep, ^

Re: Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-03 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > * Show the N: line with a count of overrides per package by default and > provide an option to suppress this output if someone wants. > > * Don't show the N: line by default and provide an option to turn it on. My first reaction would have been supp

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-03 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Gabor Gombas] > I'm wondering if init could be modified to warn if it really has to kill > something with SIGKILL but of course syslog is long dead by then so > unless you've serial console you'll likely miss that warning. Actually, it might be possible with the latest killall5 and the sendsigs

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-03 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Joe Smith] > Obviously removing those scripts should have no impact on the other > initscripts. Exactly, (unless there is a dependency relation between two scripts and one of them is removed from the shutdown sequence. :). > That does sound like a reasonable solution to the concern. I extended

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-03 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 12:14:15PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > If a package only shuts down cleanly because the rest of the shutdown > process is slow, it is already buggy. Especially on systems where the > shutdown is much faster, either due to their being fewer shutdown > scripts than usual or the

Re: Associating suffixes, programs and icons with MIME.

2008-01-03 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 04 janvier 2008 à 01:32 +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit : > Dear Josselin, thanks for your answers. > > The program for which I want to add a file icon is PerlPrimer, and only > provides a 32x32 XPM icon. If I submit the following patch to the bug > 448094, would you, as upstream author,

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-03 Thread Joe Smith
"Petter Reinholdtsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [Roger Leigh] On a heavily loaded or slow system, I suspect it would be highly likely some would get SIGKILL before they could shut down properly. I can't say I'm a big fan of the proposal for this reason. I d

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-03 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Roger Leigh] > On a heavily loaded or slow system, I suspect it would be highly > likely some would get SIGKILL before they could shut down properly. > I can't say I'm a big fan of the proposal for this reason. I do not understand this objection. The only way I can get it to make sense is by as

Re: List of packages which should probably be Architecture: all

2008-01-03 Thread Raphael Geissert
James Vega wrote: > grep-dctrl ! -FDepends -e '.' -a ! -FPre-Depends -e '.' \ > -a ! -FArchitecture all -n -sPackage binary-i386_Packages This approach is better and far faster than mine, diff'ing the results of both methods show four less binaries (which all of them are false positives using my m

Re: List of packages which should probably be Architecture: all

2008-01-03 Thread Russ Allbery
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 10:51:16AM +0100, Loïc Minier wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 02, 2008, Raphael Geissert wrote: >> >libavahi-common-data (U) >> Ships a GDBM file which is arch-dep; shouldn't ship it in /usr/share >> though. > Are those really arch

Re: Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-03 Thread Russ Allbery
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 12:21:54AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: >> If you put a config.cache file directly in the debian directory, you >> probably know what you're doing and lintian shouldn't be warning about >> it. That tag is designed to catch garbage

Re: List of packages which should probably be Architecture: all

2008-01-03 Thread Theodore Tso
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 09:50:48AM +1100, Brian May wrote: > > "Raphael" == Raphael Geissert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Raphael> Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Raphael> dar-static > > Raphael> Theodore Y. Ts'o <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Raphael> e2fsck-static > > Both of the

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-03 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 01:11:57PM +0100, Gabor Gombas wrote: > On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 02:45:40AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > > If this is a real problem for a given service, surely its init script > > should actually wait for the process to shut down cleanly? If so, it > > wouldn't be a candida

Re: Associating suffixes, programs and icons with MIME.

2008-01-03 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Charles Plessy may or may not have written... [snip] > $needs_cache = 1 if -f and (/\.png$/ or /\.svg$/ or /\.jpg$/ or /\.xpm$/); Why not this? $needs_cache = 1 if -f and /\.(png|svg|jpg|xpm)$/; -- | Darren Salt| linux or ds at | nr. Ashington, | Toon | RISC OS,

Bug#458925: ITP: usbprog -- Firmware programming tool for the USBprog hardware

2008-01-03 Thread Uwe Hermann
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Uwe Hermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: usbprog Version : 0.1.1 Upstream Author : Bernhard Walle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.embedded-projects.net/index.php?page_id=165 * License : GPL Programming Lang

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-03 Thread Joey Hess
Gabor Gombas wrote: > IMHO there can be many init scripts that currently do not wait for the > process to stop but they should if you want to do this refactoring. Some > random checks: If a package only shuts down cleanly because the rest of the shutdown process is slow, it is already buggy. Espec

Re: Associating suffixes, programs and icons with MIME.

2008-01-03 Thread Charles Plessy
Dear Josselin, thanks for your answers. The program for which I want to add a file icon is PerlPrimer, and only provides a 32x32 XPM icon. If I submit the following patch to the bug 448094, would you, as upstream author, recommend to the debhelper maintainer to incorporate it ? --- /usr/bin/dh_ic

Re: Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-03 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Russ Allbery wrote: > * Show the N: line with a count of overrides per package by default and > provide an option to suppress this output if someone wants. > * Don't show the N: line by default and provide an option to turn it on. How about counting them and output one N: line per invocation /

Bug#458903: ITP: pycha -- simple python package for drawing charts using Cairo

2008-01-03 Thread Vincent Bernat
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Vincent Bernat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name : pycha Version : 0.2.0 Upstream Author : Lorenzo Gil Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.lorenzogil.com/projects/pycha/ * License : LGPL Programming Lang: Python Description : simple pytho

sphinx, sphinx-search -- same thing

2008-01-03 Thread Magnus Holmgren
Marco Rodrigues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Package name: sphinx > Version : 0.9.7 > Upstream Author : Andrew Aksyonoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL : http://www.sphinxsearch.com > * License : GPL-2 > Programming Lang: C++ > Description : Free SQL full-

Re: Debian-AI

2008-01-03 Thread Jeremiah C. Foster
> >> As a result of this, it has been my goal to assemble a comprehensive >> software ontology of existing systems and package as many of them as >> possible, ordered in such a way that the new packages can improve the >> automatic creation of packages. > > I startet building Debian packages abou

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-03 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 02:45:40AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > If this is a real problem for a given service, surely its init script > should actually wait for the process to shut down cleanly? If so, it > wouldn't be a candidate for this refactoring. IMHO there can be many init scripts that cur

Re: List of packages which should probably be Architecture: all

2008-01-03 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 10:51:16AM +0100, Loïc Minier wrote: > On Wed, Jan 02, 2008, Raphael Geissert wrote: > >libavahi-common-data (U) > > Ships a GDBM file which is arch-dep; shouldn't ship it in /usr/share > though. Are those really arch-specific? That's really crap design. Hamish --

Re: List of packages which should probably be Architecture: all

2008-01-03 Thread Michael Koch
Hello, On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 01:17:24PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote: > Michael Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >antlr (U) False positive. libantlr-dev includes two static libraries and may not be arch:any therefor. Cheers, Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subjec

Re: List of packages which should probably be Architecture: all

2008-01-03 Thread Loïc Minier
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008, Raphael Geissert wrote: >gstreamer0.10-gnonlin-dev Fixed in SVN (useless package dropped). >libavahi-common-data (U) Ships a GDBM file which is arch-dep; shouldn't ship it in /usr/share though. >libdvb-dev (U) Only ships static libs; no idea why. >sys

Re: Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-03 Thread Loïc Minier
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008, Russ Allbery wrote: > * Don't show the N: line by default and provide an option to turn it on. I read a lot of people complain that the N: lines clutter the output: lintian's colored output helps distinguishing clutter or the more important errors from the harmless ones.

Re: Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-03 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 12:21:54AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > > And yes, none of these are overrides to paper over lintian bugs... :) > I dunno, I could make the argument that several of those are lintian bugs. > *grin* > O: samba source: configure-generated-file-in-source debian/config.cache

Re: Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-03 Thread Russ Allbery
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > E.g., this: > > N: samba_3.0.28-2.dsc overrode 4 warnings > N: winbind_3.0.28-2_amd64.deb overrode 3 errors, 2 warnings > N: smbfs_3.0.28-2_amd64.deb overrode 2 warnings > N: samba-common_3.0.28-2_amd64.deb overrode 1 warning > N: samba_3.0.28-2_am

Re: Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-03 Thread Russ Allbery
Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 2 Jan 2008, Russ Allbery wrote: >> After a recent problem with a package with a fairly egregious error >> that was overridden, hurting the ability of the sponsor to notice it, I >> added a line of output to the default lintian output saying if an

Re: Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-03 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 10:30:09PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > After a recent problem with a package with a fairly egregious error that > was overridden, hurting the ability of the sponsor to notice it, I added a > line of output to the default lintian output saying if any package > overrides erro

Re: Debian-AI

2008-01-03 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008, Andrew Dougherty wrote: One would not start a sub-project without lots of interest. Andreas Tille points out that joining the Custom Debian Distribution effort might make more sense than a sub-project. Well, to be precise a "Custom Debian Distribution" _is_ (despite of the