Re: Improving dependencies on shared libraries

2007-05-26 Thread Andreas Metzler
Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > in the list of things that we can do to make it more easy to backport > packages, there's one important item: have a finer-grained system for > generating dependencies on shared libraries. The system should have > historical knowledges of symbols exporte

Re: Wanted: introductory page for all teams

2007-05-26 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 02:13:47AM +0200, Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 27 May 2007 01:53, David Nusinow wrote: > > The only thing I've ever heard about helping out with the website is > > that it's a herculean task that no mere mortal should attempt. > > Yes, a complete redesig

Re: Improving dependencies on shared libraries

2007-05-26 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 04:04:10PM -0700, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 10:09:44PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Le samedi 26 mai 2007 à 21:06 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > > > Hello, > > > > in the list of things that we can do to make it more easy

Re: Wanted: introductory page for all teams

2007-05-26 Thread Christian Perrier
> So make the www repo writable by group Debian just like debian-glibc CVS > used to be. That sounds to be a fair suggestion. I suppose that changes are posted somewhere (debian-www?) so "accidents" should be easy to avoid/revert. What would be the risks? A commit/revert war like the one we rec

Uploading wxWidgets 2.8 to experimental ?

2007-05-26 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, May 26, 2007 at 03:44:56AM +0930, Ron a écrit : > > offer any proof that we can transition to this release > without major breakage in an important application. Dear Ron, I am member of a team which is Maintainer: of a package using wxWidgets. I would be happy to test it against an exper

Re: Wanted: introductory page for all teams

2007-05-26 Thread Clint Adams
> The wiki is completely centered on English and therefore fails to serve a > significant portion of our users. Sure, parts of the wiki are translated, > but maintenance of that is an orders of magnitude worse problem than it > is for the website. > > As far as I'm concerned the wiki is not a v

Re: Wanted: introductory page for all teams

2007-05-26 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 27 May 2007 01:53, David Nusinow wrote: > The only thing I've ever heard about helping out with the website is > that it's a herculean task that no mere mortal should attempt. Yes, a complete redesign of the website is a herculean task, but contributing to specific pages or parts is tri

Re: Wanted: introductory page for all teams

2007-05-26 Thread David Nusinow
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 12:11:03AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > What you fail to see is that there is not really such a thing as the www > team. Basically there are a bunch of people with commit access who all > mostly just care about a particular part of the website. > For some this is the technica

Re: Wanted: introductory page for all teams

2007-05-26 Thread David Nusinow
On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 06:22:08PM -0400, Clint Adams wrote: > On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 12:11:03AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > > However, I do feel my comment is justified in the sense that if there is > > one thing in Debian that is the joint responsibility of _all_ DDs, then > > it is the website.

Re: Improving dependencies on shared libraries

2007-05-26 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 10:09:44PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le samedi 26 mai 2007 à 21:06 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > > Hello, > > in the list of things that we can do to make it more easy to backport > > packages, there's one important item: have a finer-grained system for > > gene

Re: Wanted: introductory page for all teams

2007-05-26 Thread Clint Adams
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 12:11:03AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > However, I do feel my comment is justified in the sense that if there is > one thing in Debian that is the joint responsibility of _all_ DDs, then > it is the website. So yes, if you've never contributed in any way to the > website, fe

Re: Wanted: introductory page for all teams

2007-05-26 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 12:11:03AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > However, I do feel my comment is justified in the sense that if there is > one thing in Debian that is the joint responsibility of _all_ DDs, then > it is the website. So yes, if you've never contributed in any way to the > website, f

Re: Wanted: introductory page for all teams

2007-05-26 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 26 May 2007 23:58, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > So well, sorry, but I don't see why I should be part of every > mis-functioning team in Debian to have the right to say they do a poor > job. Constructive criticism is welcome; ridiculing only shows a bad attitude by the person who does it

Re: Wanted: introductory page for all teams

2007-05-26 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 11:20:53PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > On Saturday 26 May 2007 23:07, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > and the debian-www team is recovering from the > > shock that HTML 4.01 has been released recently and that CSS2 is almost > > stable (err wait, I wasn't reading my calendar proper

Re: Improving dependencies on shared libraries

2007-05-26 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 10:47:10PM +0200, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le samedi 26 mai 2007 à 22:35 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > > > Another important point: such a system would help a lot to obtain lower > > > testing migration times, but it would not help backports at all

Re: Improving dependencies on shared libraries

2007-05-26 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sat, 26 May 2007, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > If you can reuse most of the build-deps from testing instead of having to > > recompile the build-deps too, it helps a lot. > > The build-deps also need to be rebuilt against the stable libc. > > > If you can reuse a > > package from testing in st

Bug#426162: ITP: libmaruku-ruby -- a Markdown-superset interpreter for ruby

2007-05-26 Thread Vincent Fourmond
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Vincent Fourmond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libmaruku-ruby Version : 0.5.6 Upstream Author : Andrea Censi * URL : http://maruku.rubyforge.org/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: Ruby Description : a Markdo

Re: Wanted: introductory page for all teams

2007-05-26 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 26 May 2007 23:07, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > and the debian-www team is recovering from the > shock that HTML 4.01 has been released recently and that CSS2 is almost > stable (err wait, I wasn't reading my calendar properly, we're in 2007 > not 1997, sorry). Why don't you join the team?

Re: Improving dependencies on shared libraries

2007-05-26 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 11:02:37PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Sat, 26 May 2007, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Le samedi 26 mai 2007 à 22:34 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > > > > This is not going to work. Checking that symbols are present in a > > > > version does not guarantee they provid

Bug#426159: ITP: libaopalliance-java -- ensure interoperability between Java/J2EE AOP implementations

2007-05-26 Thread Torsten Werner
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Torsten Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libaopalliance-java Version : 20070526 Upstream Author : Andrei Popovici, Bob Lee, Rod Johnson, Renaud Pawlak, Jon Tirsen, Philippe Ombredanne * URL

Re: Wanted: introductory page for all teams

2007-05-26 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 10:54:06PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Sat, 26 May 2007, Andreas Barth wrote: > > * Raphael Hertzog ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070526 21:52]: > > > In order to try to address that I started a wiki page whose goal is to be > > > a > > > good introductory page to all teams.

Re: Improving dependencies on shared libraries

2007-05-26 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sat, 26 May 2007, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le samedi 26 mai 2007 à 22:34 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > > > This is not going to work. Checking that symbols are present in a > > > version does not guarantee they provide the required ABI. > > > > If the ABI changes, the soname changes. I st

Re: Wanted: introductory page for all teams

2007-05-26 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sat, 26 May 2007, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Raphael Hertzog ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070526 21:52]: > > In order to try to address that I started a wiki page whose goal is to be a > > good introductory page to all teams. Anyone who wants to learn more about > > some teams should be able to consult th

Re: Improving dependencies on shared libraries

2007-05-26 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 26 mai 2007 à 22:34 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > > This is not going to work. Checking that symbols are present in a > > version does not guarantee they provide the required ABI. > > If the ABI changes, the soname changes. I store the information of symbols > for a given soname. So

Re: Improving dependencies on shared libraries

2007-05-26 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 26 mai 2007 à 22:35 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > > Another important point: such a system would help a lot to obtain lower > > testing migration times, but it would not help backports at all, since > > you still have to rebuild the package against the stable libc. > > If you can re

Re: Wanted: introductory page for all teams

2007-05-26 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 10:13:51PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Raphael Hertzog ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070526 21:52]: > > In order to try to address that I started a wiki page whose goal is to be a > > good introductory page to all teams. Anyone who wants to learn more about > > some teams should

Re: Improving dependencies on shared libraries

2007-05-26 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sat, 26 May 2007, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le samedi 26 mai 2007 à 21:06 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > > Hello, > > > > in the list of things that we can do to make it more easy to backport > > packages, there's one important item: have a finer-grained system for > > generating dependenci

Re: Draft spec for new dpkg "triggers" feature (v2, repost)

2007-05-26 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 07:27:06PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > When a trigger is activated, it becomes pending for every package > which is interested in the trigger at that time. Each package has a > list of zero or more pending triggers. Repeated activation of the > same trigger has no addit

Re: Improving dependencies on shared libraries

2007-05-26 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sat, 26 May 2007, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le samedi 26 mai 2007 à 21:06 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > > in the list of things that we can do to make it more easy to backport > > packages, there's one important item: have a finer-grained system for > > generating dependencies on shared lib

Re: Wanted: introductory page for all teams

2007-05-26 Thread Andreas Barth
* Raphael Hertzog ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070526 21:52]: > In order to try to address that I started a wiki page whose goal is to be a > good introductory page to all teams. Anyone who wants to learn more about > some teams should be able to consult the page and have an idea of what > he/she could do

Re: Improving dependencies on shared libraries

2007-05-26 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 26 mai 2007 à 21:06 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > Hello, > > in the list of things that we can do to make it more easy to backport > packages, there's one important item: have a finer-grained system for > generating dependencies on shared libraries. Another important point: such a

Re: Improving dependencies on shared libraries

2007-05-26 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 26 mai 2007 à 21:55 +0200, Josselin Mouette a écrit : > If libfoo 1.2 adds a new value in the enum (FOO_MODE_C), a new binary > built against it may use it, and in this case will need version 1.2. > However there is no obvious way by looking at the binary to tell whether > this is the cas

Re: Improving dependencies on shared libraries

2007-05-26 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 26 mai 2007 à 21:06 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > in the list of things that we can do to make it more easy to backport > packages, there's one important item: have a finer-grained system for > generating dependencies on shared libraries. The system should have > historical knowledge

Improving dependencies on shared libraries

2007-05-26 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hello, in the list of things that we can do to make it more easy to backport packages, there's one important item: have a finer-grained system for generating dependencies on shared libraries. The system should have historical knowledges of symbols exported by libraries. Then when generating depend

Re: [Gimp-print-devel] Help/maintainer wanted for Gutenprint

2007-05-26 Thread Robert L Krawitz
From: Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 15:25:02 +0100 Due to time constraints I expect to continue to at least October, I'm not able to devote sufficient time to the Gutenprint packages in order to do a good job of keeping on top of bug reports, keeping up-t

Re: Bug#426069: ITP: spip -- website engine for publishing

2007-05-26 Thread Fathi Boudra
Le Saturday 26 May 2007 14:19:04 Romain Beauxis, vous avez écrit : > I've been trought the previous spip bugs, and it seems that missing > security support was mostly because of MIA maintainer that anything else. > > As for what I've seen from SPIP devel activities, they seem very active and > resp

Help/maintainer wanted for Gutenprint

2007-05-26 Thread Roger Leigh
Hi folks, Due to time constraints I expect to continue to at least October, I'm not able to devote sufficient time to the Gutenprint packages in order to do a good job of keeping on top of bug reports, keeping up-to-date with new upstream versions, and testing to make sure it is well integrated wi

Bug#426123: ITP: notification-daemon-xfce -- a daemon that displays passive pop-up notifications

2007-05-26 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Debian Xfce Maintainers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: notification-daemon-xfce Version : 0.3.7 Upstream Author : Nick Schermer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/notification-daemon-x

Re: Bug#426069: ITP: spip -- website engine for publishing

2007-05-26 Thread Romain Beauxis
Hi ! Le Saturday 26 May 2007 13:03:09 Moritz Muehlenhoff, vous avez écrit : > This was already in the archive and has been removed mostly for > it's poor security track record. Re-introducing it is a very > bad idea. I've been trought the previous spip bugs, and it seems that missing secu

Re: Bug#426069: ITP: spip -- website engine for publishing

2007-05-26 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
Romain Beauxis wrote: > * Package name: spip > Version : 1.9.2b > Upstream Author : SPIP Development Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL : http://www.spip.net/ and > http://trac.rezo.net/trac/spip/ > * License : Mainly GPL and other open source

Re: Bug#422137: ITP: 09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0 -- l33t h4x0r numb3r

2007-05-26 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 06:19:44PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > For those who don't routinely decipher DVDs, can you enlighten me? Did > they include a master key in all DVDs which is just a number? Pointers > to a press release are welcome, google only gives results similar to > this ITP... > >

Re: Bug#424875: ITP: libical0 -- libical offers parsing of ical text data.

2007-05-26 Thread Fathi Boudra
Hi wilfried, i have opened the ITP sometimes ago already: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=404862 having in mind to co-maintain citadel on Debian ;) cheers, Fathi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]