Re: packages newer in Ubuntu than in Debian (reduced false positives)

2007-05-09 Thread Bart Martens
On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 08:14 +0200, Bart Martens wrote: > On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 23:16 -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > [Bart Martens] > > > I've thought about adding an column for the versions in experimental, > > > but that is not a high priority to me because this does not change > > > that Debia

Re: packages newer in Ubuntu than in Debian

2007-05-09 Thread Bart Martens
On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 12:16 +0200, Bart Martens wrote: > On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 11:57 +0200, Bart Martens wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 11:49 +0200, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > > > * Bart Martens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-01 11:21]: > > > > Another approach for identifying packages to be updated

Bug#423138: ITP: libnachocalendar-java -- flexible Calendar component to the Java Platform

2007-05-09 Thread Torsten Werner
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Torsten Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libnachocalendar-java Version : 0.23 Upstream Author : Ignacio Merani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://nachocalendar.sourceforge.net/ * License : LGPL Programming Lang

Re: Announce: DebianArt.org

2007-05-09 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 9 May 2007, Jordi Gutierrez Hermoso wrote: Andreas, kde-look.org would probably be a good place to put those landscapes, though. I'd love to see them there. :-) Well, there is a similar place for Gnome themes were I tried to upload some time ago. They disappeared from there for some t

Re: Announce: DebianArt.org

2007-05-09 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 9 May 2007, Sune Vuorela wrote: Honestly. I would consider those misplaced. The artwork should be debian related - not a bunch of random photographies. (no matter how nice they are.) Perfectly all right for me - that's why I kept my background images as a private package on p.d.o. I j

Re: Announce: DebianArt.org

2007-05-09 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Gustavo Franco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-09 23:51]: > On 5/9/07, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >also sprach André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >[2007.05.09.2249 +0200]: > > > After some comments in debian-desktop list[1], the > > > DebianArtwork Team[2] pr

Re: Bourne shell assistance needed for Bug #422909

2007-05-09 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, > The problem here is that if schroot-listmounts segfaults (the trigger > in this case) or returns an error, the script continues without any > indication of the fact, despite "set -e" being in effect. In this bug > this results in a failure to umount a set of mounted filesystems, and > then

Re: Estimating number of existing Debian users

2007-05-09 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, > > This is a wild extrapolation, so the number is pretty unreliable, > > especially the usage of popcon is too small to be significant; > > A worse problem shows up if you look at the popcon graph for > apt-listbugs and compare it to the general popcon graph. While the number > of popcon use

Re: Estimating number of existing Debian users

2007-05-09 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, > I'm sorry, but the number is wrong as I replied to your blog post[0]. Thanks for the repost :) > > This is a wild extrapolation, so the number is pretty unreliable, > > especially the usage of popcon is too small to be significant; > > however, I do not know of a better way to estimate th

Re: Announce: DebianArt.org

2007-05-09 Thread Jordi Gutierrez Hermoso
On 09/05/07, Sune Vuorela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2007-05-09, Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just want to ask that my other hobby is landscape photography and > I have a large collection of images that might do as wallpapers. The Honestly. I would consider those misplaced. T

procps init.d scripts in rcS.d

2007-05-09 Thread Craig Small
Hello, I'm looking at bug #343620 where procps.sh should not exit because it is being sourced by the rc scripts and it exiting kills the calling script. Simple enough so far. What I am unsure about is why procps.sh should be a .sh file anyway. The script sets kernel parameters, I'm pretty sure i

Re: where to find linux-kbuild-2.6.21?

2007-05-09 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Ludovic Rousseau said: > linux-image-2.6.21 is not yet available in unstable but is available > from the snapshot server as described in [1]. > > I imagine that linux 2.6.21 is not the priority of the kernel team. So > I will wait. I just want to make them aware of the

Re: Bug#422909: Bourne shell assistance needed for Bug #422909

2007-05-09 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Roger Leigh said: > How can I rewrite the while loop securely (and preferably avoiding > tmpfiles), such that any bad exit status or failure will result in > immediate termination of the script with an error status? Wrap your calls of do_umount_all in if blocks: if do_

Re: Announce: DebianArt.org

2007-05-09 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2007-05-09, Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 9 May 2007, [ISO-8859-1] Andr=E9 Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira wrote: [A bunch of nice positive words about the idea and the concept and ...] > I might add that I'm trying to develop some themes for presentations > especially for LaTeX b

Re: Announce: DebianArt.org

2007-05-09 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 9 May 2007, [ISO-8859-1] André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira wrote: DebianArt.org is a place for high quality artwork and themes for the Debian Desktop[4]. The idea is use the website for contests, creating an archive of user contributed artwork that can be freely used and included in upcoming

Re: Bourne shell assistance needed for Bug #422909

2007-05-09 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 09 May 2007 23:48, Roger Leigh wrote: > { > "$LIBEXEC_DIR/schroot-listmounts" -m "$1" | > while read mountloc; do > if [ "$AUTH_VERBOSITY" = "verbose" ]; then > echo "Unmounting $mountloc" > fi > umount "$mountloc" || exit 1 > done || exit 1 > }

Re: Announce: DebianArt.org

2007-05-09 Thread André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira
2007/5/9, Gustavo Franco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On 5/9/07, Yves-Alexis Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On mer, 2007-05-09 at 17:49 -0300, André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira wrote: > > What do you think? > > We think this is one of the available ways for a best desktop > > Hmh, a nice idea would

Bourne shell assistance needed for Bug #422909

2007-05-09 Thread Roger Leigh
Hi folks, Bug #422909 has resulted from a broken assumption in how the shell would handle errors, and I'm unsure exactly how to do this correctly. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Given that this can in some circumstances result in severe dataloss, I'd very much like to get this right

Re: Announce: DebianArt.org

2007-05-09 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 5/9/07, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: also sprach André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.05.09.2249 +0200]: > After some comments in debian-desktop list[1], the DebianArtwork Team[2] > prepared the DebianArt.org site[3]. Why not art.debian.{net,org}? Feel fre

Re: Announce: DebianArt.org

2007-05-09 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.05.09.2249 +0200]: > After some comments in debian-desktop list[1], the DebianArtwork Team[2] > prepared the DebianArt.org site[3]. Why not art.debian.{net,org}? -- .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : proud D

Re: Announce: DebianArt.org

2007-05-09 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 5/9/07, Yves-Alexis Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On mer, 2007-05-09 at 17:49 -0300, André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira wrote: > What do you think? > We think this is one of the available ways for a best desktop Hmh, a nice idea would be to add preview thumbnails next to each item, because

Re: Announce: DebianArt.org

2007-05-09 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mer, 2007-05-09 at 17:49 -0300, André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira wrote: > What do you think? > We think this is one of the available ways for a best desktop Hmh, a nice idea would be to add preview thumbnails next to each item, because clicking on each one to see full screenshot can be quite

Announce: DebianArt.org

2007-05-09 Thread André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira
Hi all, After some comments in debian-desktop list[1], the DebianArtwork Team[2] prepared the DebianArt.org site[3]. DebianArt.org is a place for high quality artwork and themes for the Debian Desktop[4]. The idea is use the website for contests, creating an archive of user contributed artwork t

Re: where to find linux-kbuild-2.6.21?

2007-05-09 Thread Ludovic Rousseau
Le 08.05.2007, à 21:25:06, David Moreno Garza a écrit: > Ludovic Rousseau escribió: > > I installed linux-image-2.6.21-1-686 from > > http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net and I would like to also install > > linux-headers-2.6.21-1-686 (to build some modules for the Apple MacBook > > Pro not includ

Re: XS-Vcs-field

2007-05-09 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hello, On Wed, 09 May 2007, Felipe Sateler wrote: > Doesn't the PTS also use this information to inform of vcs commits to the > suscribed users? No. The PTS forward VCS notifications that it receives, but it doesn't generate them on its own. Each package/project has to setup its VCS to send the n

Re: XS-Vcs-field

2007-05-09 Thread Felipe Sateler
Doesn't the PTS also use this information to inform of vcs commits to the suscribed users? -- Felipe Sateler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Estimating number of existing Debian users

2007-05-09 Thread Joey Hess
Joey Hess wrote: > Hmm, if I take that number from netcraft and compare it to the popcon of > the time, which showed 3000 apache + 1000 apache2, it looks like maybe 1 > in 250 systems ran popcon in 2005. That sounds approximately right, > but we won't know what the numbers are like for etch unless

Re: Estimating number of existing Debian users

2007-05-09 Thread Joey Hess
Junichi Uekawa wrote: > I can assume there are 1,000,000 Debian users worldwide. Does this > number sound big or small to you? Too small. Recall that there were over 1 million Debian systems used as web servers alone in 2005. Hmm, if I take that number from netcraft and compare it to the popcon o

Re: Estimating number of existing Debian users

2007-05-09 Thread paddy
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 04:36:52PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I can assume there are 1,000,000 Debian users worldwide. Does this > > number sound big or small to you? > > and the numbers at http://counter.li.org/estimates.php may interest. Regards, Paddy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Estimating number of existing Debian users

2007-05-09 Thread paddy
and then I saw this: http://bbspot.com/News/2000/4/linux_distros.html I laughed. Regards, Paddy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Estimating number of existing Debian users

2007-05-09 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > (B) A unique IP represents a single system (Even though DHCP may > change IP address over a month's period, NAT may share IP addresses). That does look wrong. At least here in Germany, most broadband users get a new IP every 24 hours, so a single user c

Re: Estimating number of existing Debian users

2007-05-09 Thread paddy
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 12:41:32AM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > Hi, > > I've tried to craft an hypothesis about number of Debian users, from > apt-listbugs logs. I've analysed merkel.debian.org access logs. Since > etch was released, 3 unique IPs were used to access > merkel.debian.org using

Re: Sharing a subdirectory of /usr/share between multiple packages ?

2007-05-09 Thread Steve Greenland
On 09-May-07, 06:58 (CDT), Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [Steve Greenland] > > There's no requirement that /usr contain only pre-packaged info; > > most of the wrappers that download binaries (e.g. flash) put them > > under /usr. > > It might not be a requirement, but it is

Re: Mandatory -dbg packages for libraries?

2007-05-09 Thread Steve Greenland
On 09-May-07, 04:02 (CDT), Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 02:23:37PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Le lundi 07 mai 2007 ? 13:02 +0200, Wouter Verhelst a ?crit : > > > > Dropping most .a libraries is something I agree with. I see no reason > > > > why we

Re: Estimating number of existing Debian users

2007-05-09 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 5/9/07, Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I've tried to craft an hypothesis about number of Debian users, from apt-listbugs logs. I've analysed merkel.debian.org access logs. Since etch was released, 3 unique IPs were used to access merkel.debian.org using apt-listbugs. Accord

Re: wordpress packages

2007-05-09 Thread sean finney
hi, as a preface: i really don't have any opinion about the particular issue of packaging stuff for wordpress. but: On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 18:08 +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > On Wednesday 09 May 2007 07:39, Moritz Muehlenhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In reality they'll be included unreviewe

Estimating number of existing Debian users

2007-05-09 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, I've tried to craft an hypothesis about number of Debian users, from apt-listbugs logs. I've analysed merkel.debian.org access logs. Since etch was released, 3 unique IPs were used to access merkel.debian.org using apt-listbugs. According to popcon, 3% of all Debian users install apt-listb

Re: Are (c)debootstrap broken ?

2007-05-09 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2007-05-09, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > chrooting into the dir, the error is that base-files postinst > cannot find awk. mawk had indeed been configured earlier. So, while > /etc/alternatives/awk exists, and points to mawk, there is no symlink > /usr/bin/awk created.

Re: Sid SELinux packages are now working

2007-05-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 9 May 2007 13:00:14 +0200, Gabor Gombas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Well, I don't know much about SElinux (yet) but how about storing the > modified module at a different location (say under > /var/selinux/local-policy)? That way the update script can be taught > to simply ignore the ship

Re: Are (c)debootstrap broken ?

2007-05-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 9 May 2007 01:22:23 -0700, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 02:49:53AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> Hi, On Wed, 9 May 2007 09:24:16 +0900, Charles Plessy >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> > Dear all, I do not know what I am doing wrong, but I can not

Bug#423008: ITP: gramophone2 -- GRAMophone II is an algorithmic musical generator.

2007-05-09 Thread Francesco Namuri
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Francesco Namuri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Package name: gramophone2 Version : 0.2.1a Upstream Author : Giovanni Ferranti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL : http://www.giovanniferranti.it/ License : GPL Programming Lang: C Des

Re: Sharing a subdirectory of /usr/share between multiple packages ?

2007-05-09 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Steve Greenland] > There's no requirement that /usr contain only pre-packaged info; > most of the wrappers that download binaries (e.g. flash) put them > under /usr. It might not be a requirement, but it is a smart thing do to. And as far as I know, the wrappers downloading binaries are creatin

Re: [DSE-Dev] Re: Sid SELinux packages are now working

2007-05-09 Thread Erich Schubert
Hi, > OK. Given a .pp file, how _do_ you detect what version it is? For installed modules, we can just use "semodule -l" I havn't tried it, but there is semanage.semanage_module_get_version in the python semanage bindings. I don't know if this only works for installed modules or for pa

Re: Sid SELinux packages are now working

2007-05-09 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 02:34:18AM +0200, Erich Schubert wrote: > I don't think this is a good idea. If I have (for whatever reason) to > modify a policy module, I'd like to be able to bump the version number a > bit to avoid it from being updated. Like bumping it to 2.x; it will be > some time un

Re: Wrapper to download databases (was: Sharing a subdirectory of /usr/share between multiple packages ?)

2007-05-09 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 10:43:46AM +0200, Michael Hanke wrote: > Even when I split the package into data and binaries. As soon as a > single file gets updated I have to bump the version and everyone has to > download the whole package again. I was speaking about splitting the _source_ package, so

Re: LDAP mail gateway and subkeys, RT ticket #70

2007-05-09 Thread Adeodato Simó
> Please mail me such a signed message that I can use for my tests. Thay way > I can use my existing setup without having to integrate a fake key in my > copy of the LDAP. Sent. Cheers, -- Adeodato Simó dato at net.com.org.es Debian Developer

Re: wordpress packages

2007-05-09 Thread Russell Coker
On Wednesday 09 May 2007 07:39, Moritz Muehlenhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In reality they'll be included unreviewed, the maintainer will lose > interest half a year after the stable release and the security team will > have to deal with all that junk every couple of months. So, don't do that.

Re: Mandatory -dbg packages for libraries?

2007-05-09 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 02:23:37PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le lundi 07 mai 2007 à 13:02 +0200, Wouter Verhelst a écrit : > > > Dropping most .a libraries is something I agree with. I see no reason > > > why we should have them for most of the libraries. > > > > As a courtesy to our users

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Re: LDAP mail gateway and subkeys, RT ticket #70

2007-05-09 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi Dato, thanks for you input. The problem is better understood now. The GPG check actually works. However gpg reports the fingerprint of the signing subkey and this fingerprint is not listed in the LDAP, and hence a further check fails. On Wed, 09 May 2007, Adeodato Simó wrote: > Subject: Mail

Re: XS-Vcs-field

2007-05-09 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 05:57:23PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Umm, sure. I had not given an example of the control file, since > that was the same as the control file for vim. Perhaps I need to make > this more explicit, since you were confused. No, it was indeed clear. I just th