On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 02:53:25PM +1100, Steffen Joeris wrote:
> Why not just logging in to merkel and using "mia-todo needs-wat" ?
> As far as I can see right now there are plenty of people listed
> there with no packages and they can be the targets for the first
> run.
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On lun, 2007-02-12 at 08:05 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
> The difference between a DD and a non-DD is mainly about voting, so if
> a
> DD doesn't have interest in politics, he could just do like a lot of
> non-DD people: have a sponsor.
When dealing with a large set of packages (read "Xfce"), it's
Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 07:47:48AM +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez <[EMAIL
> PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, you're perfectly right. That's the best advice one could give to
>> not so active DD who doesn't want to lose much time («"lose" the time to
>> vote so you don't "lose" the t
On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 07:47:48AM +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Yeah, you're perfectly right. That's the best advice one could give to
> not so active DD who doesn't want to lose much time («"lose" the time to
> vote so you don't "lose" the time in NM»). But as someone sai
On dim, 2007-02-11 at 22:59 -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > More than difficulty, I think *time* is the problem.
>
> Agreed, but anyone who cannot take the time to vote once an year
> really
> should be asking for his account to be locked for a while (i.e. a
> vacation)
> until he ha
Hi mates
> This is the part I'm unsure about. I think, as che recently
> mentioned, he has been missing for years. His packages were
> properly orphaned, but the account cleanup never happened.
>
> I am given the impression that the primary focus of the MIA
> process is taking c
On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 03:35:27PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> ... I mean, getting ones
> status reverted is an inconvenience, but surely an active DD should
> not be afraid of passing something we ask of every new developer?
IIUC if A is the number of people expelled from Debian and if B
On 10928 March 1977, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Yes, it does. They need to fix their packages, or they get orphaned.
> When no packages are left, we talk to DAM.
No. You(Mia) didnt (in the past).
>> How many other MIA people are undiscovered by our current process?
> I'm sure there are plenty.
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 00:43:27 +0100, Amaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> I think the difference is that the MIA process is too conservative,
> It starts off being polite, indeed. And patient. You never know the
> reason why a person is not so active anymore. Tbm gave a t
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> On dim, 2007-02-11 at 15:35 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > an active DD should
> > not be afraid of passing something we ask of every new developer?
>
> On dim, 2007-02-11 at 22:49 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
> A probable reason is that the NM pro
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007, Mike Hommey wrote:
> A probable reason is that the NM process is getting tougher and/or that
> some developpers didn't even pass an NM process...
Then we are better off without them. I can understandy anyone trying to
avoid NM in the grounds that it is a hassle (as in they'd
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 00:37:33 +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On dim, 2007-02-11 at 17:18 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> A reduced NM process should be less time consuming than the full
>> one, no?
> Well, it depends on the steps which are removed from the NM process,
> an
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> I think the difference is that the MIA process is too
> conservative,
It starts off being polite, indeed. And patient. You never know the
reason why a person is not so active anymore. Tbm gave a talk about how
it is done and why it is done like that in Oslo, 2003
On dim, 2007-02-11 at 17:18 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> A reduced NM process should be less time consuming than the
> full one, no?
Well, it depends on the steps which are removed from the NM process, and
how this "reduced" process is made. I guess it should be less time
consuming, but I ca
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 23:39:46 +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On dim, 2007-02-11 at 15:35 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> an active DD should not be afraid of passing something we ask of
>> every new developer?
> On dim, 2007-02-11 at 22:49 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: A proba
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 23:33:40 +0100, Amaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Hi, there
> Joerg Jaspert wrote:
>> To reduce the security risk an unused open account has, and also to
>> get the number of Developers to reflect the reality, we, the Debian
>> Account Managers, decided to do regular "WaT"[2]
On Sunday 11 February 2007 14:22, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> > I don't think using the single criteria such as DPL voting is a good,
> > approach.
>
> Now, explain where the problem in my approach is? The worst case that
> can happen to someone who does not vote is that he replies to one
> mail. Its no
On dim, 2007-02-11 at 15:35 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> an active DD should
> not be afraid of passing something we ask of every new developer?
On dim, 2007-02-11 at 22:49 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
A probable reason is that the NM process is getting tougher and/or that
> some developpers did
Hi, there
Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> To reduce the security risk an unused open account has, and also to
> get the number of Developers to reflect the reality, we, the Debian
> Account Managers, decided to do regular "WaT"[2] runs.
Are you familiar with the MIA Team work? How is this work insufficien
Jason D. Clinton wrote:
> Also, by default, CPU frequency scaling is disabled for desktop
> installs. This should be turned on; we are trying to save the world
> after all, aren't we? 130,000+ Debian users with CPU Frequency scaling
> enabled would save a lot of energy with no noticible impact to d
On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 21:59 +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
> "so please file installation reports!"
(The follow is also filed in an installation report.)
RAID+LVM /boot doesn't work as of yesterday's build. It seems fixable; a
manual invocation of "update-initramfs -k all -u" in the /target
with /target
Le dimanche 11 février 2007 à 12:50 -0800, Steve Langasek a écrit :
> Well, the translations really should not be part of the ABI of the library;
> libraries shouldn't be engaging in direct interaction with the user, so the
> use case for localization of libraries is really limited to interfaces su
On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 03:35:27PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 15:42:47 -0500, Joe Smith
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > I would hope that there would be a grace period after deactivation,
>
> I suggest you read the original mail before pa
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 15:42:47 -0500, Joe Smith
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> I would hope that there would be a grace period after deactivation,
I suggest you read the original mail before participating in
the discussion.
> where a person who misses the WaT mail, and then later has his/h
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:12:54 -0700, Wesley J Landaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Sunday 11 February 2007 03:57, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
>> - miss the WaT mail. Even if you are on vacation for a long time, I
>> guess it wont be 3 weeks (vote) plus one or two months (WaT mail
>> timeout), and dont
On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 08:23:29PM +0100, Loïc Minier wrote:
> Some shared libraries have gettext translations below /usr/share/locale
> with the source package name as textdomain. When such a shared lib
> changes SONAME, how are you handling it?
> 1) check all strings to see whether there ar
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On 10927 March 1977, Mark Purcell wrote:
On Saturday 10 February 2007 01:34, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
Selection of the people included in those runs will be done in a way
that we avoid sending out such mails to active pe
On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 01:50:39PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
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> On 02/11/07 12:58, =?//TRANSLIT?Q?Lo=EFc?= Minier wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 11, 2007, Ron Johnson wrote:
> * URL : http://www.example.org/
> >>> No upstream website I k
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> On Sun, Feb 11, 2007, Ron Johnson wrote:
* URL : http://www.example.org/
>>> No upstream website I know of.
>> FTP site?
>> Where do you get the source from?
>
> ftp.gnome.o
Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "John H. Robinson, IV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The only problem I see with $() is that older /bin/sh (SunOS) does not
>> support $(), but it does support ``.
>>
>> When I make a /bin/sh, I want it able to be run on a /bin/sh, even if
>> that /bi
Hi there,
Some shared libraries have gettext translations below /usr/share/locale
with the source package name as textdomain. When such a shared lib
changes SONAME, how are you handling it?
1) check all strings to see whether there are only additions and no
incompatible changes, and
On Sunday 11 February 2007 03:57, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> - miss the WaT mail. Even if you are on vacation for a long time, I
> guess it wont be 3 weeks (vote) plus one or two months (WaT mail
> timeout), and dont you read your backlog when you come back?
What about if the WaT mail is rej
On Friday 09 February 2007 11:11, Jari Aalto wrote:
> I have reported bugs against backtick and suggested to change to use
> the more readable alternative. The result was surprising. To quote
> one message (bug closed reasoning):
>
> "If your development environment cannot display ` differentl
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Joost Yervante Damad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* Package name: openmsx-debugger
Version : 0.1.0
Upstream Author : Edwin Velds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://openmsx.org/
* License : GPL
Programming Lang: C++
Description
On 09-Feb-07, 15:13 (CST), "John H. Robinson, IV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The only problem I see with $() is that older /bin/sh (SunOS) does not
> support $(), but it does support ``.
>
> When I make a /bin/sh, I want it able to be run on a /bin/sh, even if
> that /bin/sh is on SunOS.
Then
On Sun, Feb 11, 2007, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >> * URL : http://www.example.org/
> > No upstream website I know of.
> FTP site?
> Where do you get the source from?
ftp.gnome.org, but not worth mentionning in the package description;
it's mentionned in the copyright of course. I imagin
Am Sonntag 11 Februar 2007 19:11 schrieb J HU:
> I'm working on a communication using UDP sockets and I would like to get
> the source code to know exactly what it does and make some proves.
UDP is not defined by some source code but by its RFC documents.
> Can anyone tell me where o how I can ge
On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 06:11:40PM +, J HU wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I'm working on a communication using UDP sockets and I would like to get
> the source code to know exactly what it does and make some proves.
>
> Can anyone tell me where o how I can get the sorce code of the UDP?... now
> I just i
Hi!
I'm working on a communication using UDP sockets and I would like to get the
source code to know exactly what it does and make some proves.
Can anyone tell me where o how I can get the sorce code of the UDP?... now I
just include the but I like to see the functions.
Thanks in advance
On 10927 March 1977, Mark Purcell wrote:
> On Saturday 10 February 2007 01:34, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
>> Selection of the people included in those runs will be done in a way
>> that we avoid sending out such mails to active people. As a good start
>> we will take the upcoming DPL vote as an input so
On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 12:19:34PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> I totally agree. If I were forced to reduce my involvement in Debian, I
> would probably start by losing interest in "politics", since I could
> easily trust other, better-informed DD, to make better choices than I
> would do. That w
Jon Marler wrote:
> I have a question ... How do I keep my Debian maintainer status if I
> miss the vote?
A more relevant case are probably people, who don't care about the
annual time-drain aka DPL election.
Cheers,
Moritz
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On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 12:19:34PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> On 11/02/07 at 10:29 +, Mark Purcell wrote:
> > Whilst you might be able to vote without expressing an opinion,
> > we already have a documented MIA process.
> >
> > http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-beyond-pkgin
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On 11/02/07 at 10:29 +, Mark Purcell wrote:
> Whilst you might be able to vote without expressing an opinion,
> we already have a documented MIA process.
>
> http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-beyond-pkging.en.html#s-mia-qa
>
> I don't think using the single criteria such as DP
On 10927 March 1977, Bart Martens wrote:
>> Three week vacation periods are not uncommon.
> Of course, and I'm sure everyone knows that. When I read the
> announcement again, then I see no reason to panic. :)
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2007/02/msg8.html
> An example, how
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On 02/11/07 03:39, Loïc Minier wrote:
[snip]
>> * URL : http://www.example.org/
>
> No upstream website I know of.
FTP site?
Where do you get the source from?
>> * License : LGPL, GPL, BSD
>
> (This is correct.)
It's tri-lic
Dear developers,
[My post involve only technical issues which are orthogonal to the
current GR which addresses the non-technical issues.]
On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 01:23:35AM +, James Troup wrote:
>Why restrictions on binary uploads?
>
On Saturday 10 February 2007 01:34, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> Selection of the people included in those runs will be done in a way
> that we avoid sending out such mails to active people. As a good start
> we will take the upcoming DPL vote as an input source, everyone who doesn't
> vote this year wil
On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 09:22 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 09:40:31PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL
> PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:54:56 -0600, Jon Marler
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> >
> > > I have a question ... How do I keep my Debian maintainer sta
Hmm, sorry for these:
On Sun, Feb 11, 2007, Loïc Minier wrote:
> Version : x.y.z
0.1.1
> Upstream Author : Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Mostly Søren Sandmann for Red Hat.
> * URL : http://www.example.org/
No upstream website I know of.
> * License : LGPL, GPL,
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Loic Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi,
I intend to package libcm:
* Package name: libcm
Version : x.y.z
Upstream Author : Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.example.org/
* License : LGPL, GPL, BSD
Progra
> > Who would be the right person or committe to talk to at Debian about
> > making fonts for Debian and or other Linux distros?
I think that joining the pkg-fonts-devel team mailing list is the
first step to go, certainly.
We are about a dozen of people who mostly maintain a few font
packages. T
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 09:40:31PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:54:56 -0600, Jon Marler
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > I have a question ... How do I keep my Debian maintainer status if I
> > miss the vote? Is there a website I can log in to "r
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