Alexey Feldgendler wrote:
> In a desktop environment, the user needs to do a special action to run
> the shell (such as starting the Gnome Terminal). It's somewhat unlikely
> that the user ends up in the "scary black screen" by accident, and even
> then he can easily find the familiar close button
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 11:48:33PM -0400, Jason Spiro wrote:
> >I remember back in 2000 providing a Debian package called 'ayuda' ('help',
> >in
> >Spanish) developed by members of my local IEEE Student Branch. This
> >package
> >included just a simple shell script ('ayuda') and a number of text
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006, Mahmood Sheikh wrote:
I work for ACCESS, Inc. here in Sunnyvale, California. We are looking
for someone who is adept in Debian Packaging. This person would deliver
3 or 4 hourly sessions to our employees just to educate them on benefits
of using Debian Packaging and answer a
Package: wnpp
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* Package name: pcopy
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2006/10/17, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I think 'help' is by far the most common one ('?' might be close too).
Currently 'help' brings bash's help which might not be what a newbie
expected. Some (older?)
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 20:02:45 +0700, Jason Spiro
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
For example, when a person types newbie commands like "help" or "kde"
(which is bound to something already) or the DOS commands "del" or "ren"
(which are not), we should point them to more help. (In case anyone here
has
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On 10/17/06 19:35, David Nusinow wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 08:27:46PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 07:56:00PM -0400, David Nusinow wrote:
>>> On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 08:36:42AM +1000, Andrew Vaughan wrote:
[snip]
>
Hi all,
I work for ACCESS, Inc. here in Sunnyvale, California. We are looking
for someone who is adept in Debian Packaging. This person would deliver
3 or 4 hourly sessions to our employees just to educate them on benefits
of using Debian Packaging and answer any questions that our employees
(inter
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 08:27:46PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 07:56:00PM -0400, David Nusinow wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 08:36:42AM +1000, Andrew Vaughan wrote:
> > > What's really needed is better help for newbies dumped unexpectedly at
> > > the
> > > com
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 07:56:00PM -0400, David Nusinow wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 08:36:42AM +1000, Andrew Vaughan wrote:
> > What's really needed is better help for newbies dumped unexpectedly at the
> > command-line because X wasn't installed/properly configured/didn't start.
>
> What's
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 08:36:42AM +1000, Andrew Vaughan wrote:
> What's really needed is better help for newbies dumped unexpectedly at the
> command-line because X wasn't installed/properly configured/didn't start.
What's really needed is to fix our X autoconfiguration mechanisms so that
this d
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 01:02:45PM +, Jason Spiro wrote:
> Hi all,
Hi there.
> For example, when a person types newbie commands like "help" or "kde"
> (which is bound to something already) or the DOS commands "del" or "ren"
> (which are not), we should point them to more help. (In case anyone
On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 10:38:26PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 10:22:43PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> >> [Charles Plessy]
> >> > The rationale is that the 8th is "old freeze deadline minus 10
> >> > days", so it was not completely unreasonnable to take thi
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 11:46:11PM +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote:
> >>Some statistics:
> >> 74 packages
> >> 401 MATCH, i.e., the RFC in the source package is an authentic RFC
> >> 79 MISMATCH, i.e., the RFC differ from the authentic RFC
> >> 6 FETCH-FAIL
> >Note that not all authentic RFC doc
Le 16.10.2006, à 11:48:41, Daniel Schepler a écrit:
> On Sunday 15 October 2006 21:48 pm, Ludovic Rousseau wrote:
> > If you are interested you should also adopt libmal. It causes a problem
> > on kpilot and I offered the package to the kpilot maintainer without an
> > answer from him. See #389353.
On 17 okt 2006, at 18.47, Luk Claes wrote:
Some statistics:
74 packages
401 MATCH, i.e., the RFC in the source package is an authentic RFC
79 MISMATCH, i.e., the RFC differ from the authentic RFC
6 FETCH-FAIL
Note that not all authentic RFC documents have the same license,
some of t
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 03:49:54PM +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote:
> > Note what packages fixed the problem in unstable, file an RC bug for
> > the testing version and close it for the unstable version. That then
> > reflects the reality and will keep track of the problem.
> Hm, I know how to submit
On Wednesday 18 October 2006 05:41, you wrote:
> On 2006-10-17, Goswin von Brederlow
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [snip]
>
> > Anyway, the usual way to detect a newbie and give help to them seems
> > to be to assume everyone a newbie and give little hints, startup tips,
> > ... till they learn en
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On 10/17/06 08:02, Jason Spiro wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I believe that since command-line Linux is hard to learn, Debian should
> offer handholding. (This would benefit both Debian users who are new to
> the command line and How can the OS autodetect that
Hello,
In the most recent version of iptables, IPMARK and several other extensions
were removed [1].
I disagree with this change, and contacted the maintainer about it by filing a
bug report [2]. The maintainer declined to put the extensions back into the
package, but provided no reason why,
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 08:44:16PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> What happens if you have multiple initrd/initramfs generators
> installed? Do you get multiple images?
No, kernel-package has logic to pick one of them and go with that.
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thanks
It looks unlikely I will manage to package this. It's too big a
package to deal with as my first package ever. Open Watcom is complex;
it does
On 2006-10-17, Goswin von Brederlow
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
>
> Anyway, the usual way to detect a newbie and give help to them seems
> to be to assume everyone a newbie and give little hints, startup tips,
> ... till they learn enough to turn them off. For examples see gimp or
> mc.
>
> P
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Oleksandr Moskalenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* Package name: webhelpers
Version : 0.2.1
Upstream Author : Ben Bangert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and James Gardner <[EMAIL
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* URL : http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi/WebHelpers/
*
Hi,
let me respond to the subject. I don't know about the rest of the
mail, sorry.
Anyway, the usual way to detect a newbie and give help to them seems
to be to assume everyone a newbie and give little hints, startup tips,
... till they learn enough to turn them off. For examples see gimp or
mc.
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 09:35:49AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> > On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 04:08:17PM -0500, Clarence Risher wrote:
>> >> And that leads me to the general question, on the topic of
>
Package: wnpp
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* Package name: beaker
Version : 0.6.1
Upstream Author : Julian Krause and Ben Bangart - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi/Beaker/
* License : MIT
Pro
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Oleksandr Moskalenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* Package name: myghtyutils
Version : 0.52
Upstream Author : Michael Bayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi/MyghtyUtils/
* License : MIT
Programming
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 02:34:11PM +, Sune Vuorela wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I have started to wonder a bit about 'missing days' - a thing that is
> especially importaint now when we are heading for a total freeze.
>
> >From http://packages.qa.debian.org/u/udev.html:
> Too young, only 1 of 10 days old
Simon Josefsson wrote:
> Some raised a concern with false positives in my reports -- and also
> tagged all the bugs with etch-ignore. I went through all bug reports
> manually yesterday (see earlier mail), but I also realized that it
> would be possible to do this automatically, to provide further
On 2006-10-17, Mario Iseli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We could start together a project which does this shell scripts, I think
> it's not really a lot of work. Don't file a bug, first we can do a
> "linuxnewbie" program and someone (maybe myself) will build a debian
> package one day.
Has anyone
Le Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 02:30:59PM +0200, Frank Küster a écrit :
> Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > What about convincing the upstream developers to change the license to
> > one of the free software licenses? It would solve the problem for
> > good.
>
> Judging from the mail
On 2006-10-17, Sune Vuorela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But here:
> http://packages.qa.debian.org/k/kwin-style-crystal.html
> Too young, only 1 of 10 days old
> [2006-10-13] Accepted 1.0.2-1 in unstable (low)
hmm... one day has just gone here. now 2 of 10 (But I still miss one day
;)
/Sune
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Hi!
I have started to wonder a bit about 'missing days' - a thing that is
especially importaint now when we are heading for a total freeze.
>From http://packages.qa.debian.org/u/udev.html:
Too young, only 1 of 10 days old
[2006-10-15] Accepted 0.100-2.1 in unstable (low)
and here my math works
also sprach Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.10.17.1600 +0200]:
> According to my own experience this would probably be the only
> clean way.
I fail to see the problem with my shell script: unless it's called
via SSH while connected to a terminal, it does nothing else but call
/sbin/halt.re
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Simon Josefsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> The second problem seems to be generic. The reason I looked at
>> packages in testing was that they are the packages that are going to
>> be released, and if I look at what's in unstable, it seems
Some raised a concern with false positives in my reports -- and also
tagged all the bugs with etch-ignore. I went through all bug reports
manually yesterday (see earlier mail), but I also realized that it
would be possible to do this automatically, to provide further
assurance that the bugs indica
also sprach Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.10.17.1556 +0200]:
> >You want to alter /sbin/shutdown itself?
>
> Yes.
Go for it. In the mean time I am going to deal with my shell script.
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On Tue, 17 Oct 2006, Marc Haber wrote:
You want to alter /sbin/shutdown itself?
Yes.
According to my own experience this would probably be the
only clean way.
Kind regards
Andreas.
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On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:12:25 +0200, martin f krafft
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>also sprach Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.10.17.1453 +0200]:
>> A more compatible way of doing so would be having an optional
>> configuration file where one could set an option that shutdown
>> won't do anything
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 01:02:45PM +, Jason Spiro wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I believe that since command-line Linux is hard to learn, Debian should
> offer handholding. (This would benefit both Debian users who are new to
> the command line and How can the OS autodetect that a user is a newbie
> an
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 02:38:49PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
[...]
>> Just read the mails of these both threads and learn why we have
>> not yet autobuilders for non-free. IMHO the main issue is that
>> "nobody really _did_ it".
>
> There are two iss
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 02:38:49PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Oct 2006, Andreas Tille wrote:
>
> >When I maintained this package I tried and I guess my successors tried
> >as well. Another solution was suggested nearly 5 years ago
> >
> > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2001/
[Hendrik Sattler]
> Does that work when not using pmount but only hal to mount devices? Can the
> other side of d-bus messages be aware of such group memberships?:
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=377689
Thank you for the reference. It seem to me that this problem still
exist
also sprach Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.10.17.1453 +0200]:
> A more compatible way of doing so would be having an optional
> configuration file where one could set an option that shutdown
> won't do anything unless the correct host name was given on the
> command line.
You want to alter /
Hi all,
I believe that since command-line Linux is hard to learn, Debian should
offer handholding. (This would benefit both Debian users who are new to
the command line and How can the OS autodetect that a user is a newbie
and offer help?
For example, when a person types newbie commands like "hel
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:50:08 +0200, martin f krafft
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am sure you've all once typed 'halt' only to notice that
>you were in an active SSH session and the machine on the other side
>of $BIG_DISTANCE obediently followed your request. I've done it way
>too much, so I ended
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006, Andreas Tille wrote:
When I maintained this package I tried and I guess my successors tried
as well. Another solution was suggested nearly 5 years ago
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2001/11/msg01472.html
and if I remember also at other occurences but the search i
Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What about convincing the upstream developers to change the license to
> one of the free software licenses? It would solve the problem for
> good.
Judging from the mail recorded in its copyright file, this isn't likely
to happen.
Regards, Frank
-
Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [Charles Plessy]
>> Clustal W and Clustal X are the most popular software for multiple
>> alignment of biological sequences. Their source package was NMUed during
>> the lesstif transition, but not built on enough architectures, and was
>> therefore
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
Ah, the pain with no autobuilders for non-free packages.
Exactly.
You will
have to find a developer with access to all of the architectures ia64,
mips, mipsel and s390 (m68k is ignored), and get them to build
binaries of the package.
In princ
(Please reply to the debian-boot list.)
Preparations for Release Candidate 1 of the installer have now really
started. All important functional changes are now included in the daily
images.
In order improve the quality of the release and reduce the number of nasty
surprises afterwards, it woul
Am Dienstag 17 Oktober 2006 13:50 schrieb Petter Reinholdtsen:
> By updating /etc/pam.d/common-auth and /etc/security/group.conf it is
> possible to add the logged in user to the grous needed (audio,
> floppy, cdrom, plugdev, video). In addition to getting access to
> the devices present d
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 09:35:49AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 04:08:17PM -0500, Clarence Risher wrote:
> >> And that leads me to the general question, on the topic of
> >> sometimes-dependencies. Does debian have any
[Charles Plessy]
> Clustal W and Clustal X are the most popular software for multiple
> alignment of biological sequences. Their source package was NMUed during
> the lesstif transition, but not built on enough architectures, and was
> therefore removed from testing.
>
> http://packages.qa.debian.
[Gernot Salzer]
> what is the standard/canonical way of handling device permissions
> in Debian ("etch" in my case) on desktop PCs running a GUI?
As you probably found out from the replies so far, there is no
standard way. :(
Here are some notes I wrote for Debian Edu. You might find it useful.
Dear all,
Clustal W and Clustal X are the most popular software for multiple
alignment of biological sequences. Their source package was NMUed during
the lesstif transition, but not built on enough architectures, and was
therefore removed from testing.
http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/clustalw.htm
* "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-10-16 01:18]:
> Mail-Followup-To: ...
quite helfpul, if you ask me. :) I'm not sure if you wanted that, but
I'm following your wish.
> * These packages are still in a state of flux, so please bear with us
And they are, as one can see in #393318
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 09:33:04 +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
> Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Something I have yet to understand is what purposes the bounce [from
> > a moderated list] serve in the first place. Moderating is OK, but
> > bouncing ?
>
> I read many mailing lists (thi
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 04:08:17PM -0500, Clarence Risher wrote:
>> of yaird. Should that be filed as a bug against
>> linux-image-2.6.18-1-486 even though its not always a dependency?
>
> Yes.
>
>> And that leads me to the general question, on the to
Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Am Montag 16 Oktober 2006 11:34 schrieb Frank Küster:
>> Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> Even worse, you again have to use KDE or Gnome to take advantage of
>> >> network-manager. Why are we leaving CLI users out in the cold?
>> >
>>
Simon Josefsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The second problem seems to be generic. The reason I looked at
> packages in testing was that they are the packages that are going to
> be released, and if I look at what's in unstable, it seems that I
> might miss what's going to be in etch (e.g., e2
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