Re: safe halt/reboot/shutdown

2006-10-16 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, martin f krafft wrote: Yes and no. From the bug report I think your approach was more complex (esp. since it involved sudo). Mine's really just a hack that will only do some silly check if it's called over an SSH connection and a terminal is connected. Otherwise it just pass

seahorse (gnome, gpg) encryption error

2006-10-16 Thread Erle Pereira
Been having problems with Seahorse and encryption from gnome. (Nautilus, Gedit, Evolution) When I try to sign, I get the error "Couldn't Load Keys" When I try to Encrypt, it loads the keys for selection and then exists when I try to encrypt without and error. It was working before I upgraded fr

Re: How should we deal with 'pointless-on-this-arch' packages?

2006-10-16 Thread Miles Bader
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > That's a bad example. X is a client/server system for a reason. > > E.g., there is no graphical hardware for s390, yet it can still be a > good idea to use X software on s390 hardware with X terminals. Yeah, that's the thing -- while maintainers are us

Re: [OT] Your opinion about...

2006-10-16 Thread Muammar Wadih El Khatib Rodriguez
On 10/15/06, Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been reading about Dunc Tank. I did it because I'm seeing lots > of messages of disgusting, lots of packages have been orphaned, and > blog entries that have a kind of upset, too. > > I would be glad if you give me your opinions abou

Re: Bug#393589: ITP: make2build -- Converts a Makefile.PL to a Build.PL

2006-10-16 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 12:38:43AM +0200, Mario Iseli wrote: > * Package name: make2build > Version : 0.42 > Upstream Author : Steven Schubiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL : > http://search.cpan.org/~schubiger/Module-Build-Convert-0.42/ > * License : Artistic >

Re: sometimes-dependency, linux-image-2.6.18-1-486

2006-10-16 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 04:08:17PM -0500, Clarence Risher wrote: > of yaird. Should that be filed as a bug against > linux-image-2.6.18-1-486 even though its not always a dependency? Yes. > And that leads me to the general question, on the topic of > sometimes-dependencies. Does debian have a

sometimes-dependency, linux-image-2.6.18-1-486

2006-10-16 Thread Clarence Risher
First, a specific 'bug' that may not be, then a general query. Trying to install linux-image-2.6.18-1-486 I got an error while running mkinitrd.yaird which I ended up resolving by installing a newer verison of yaird. Should that be filed as a bug against linux-image-2.6.18-1-486 even though i

Re: Question regarding maintainer email

2006-10-16 Thread Ben Finney
Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Something I have yet to understand is what purposes the bounce [from > a moderated list] serve in the first place. Moderating is OK, but > bouncing ? I read many mailing lists (this one, for example) without being subscribed as a member. An automated

Bug#393589: ITP: make2build -- Converts a Makefile.PL to a Build.PL

2006-10-16 Thread Mario Iseli
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mario Iseli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: make2build Version : 0.42 Upstream Author : Steven Schubiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://search.cpan.org/~schubiger/Module-Build-Convert-0.42/ * License : Artistic P

Re: Lack of transparency of automatic actions

2006-10-16 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag 16 Oktober 2006 11:34 schrieb Frank Küster: > Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Even worse, you again have to use KDE or Gnome to take advantage of > >> network-manager. Why are we leaving CLI users out in the cold? > > > > Good question. The concept for a cli like this wou

Re: Question regarding maintainer email

2006-10-16 Thread Bill Allombert
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 03:36:39PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 07:51:04PM +0200, Tobias Frost wrote: > > My question, is, if this is ok with the debian packaging policy chapter > > 3.3, or not (that is should I file a bug?) > > It is not considered acceptable. It's t

Re: safe halt/reboot/shutdown

2006-10-16 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.10.16.2151 +0200]: > It is exactly what I did and what caused the trouble and hours > of debugging. Yes and no. From the bug report I think your approach was more complex (esp. since it involved sudo). Mine's really just a hack that will only do

Bug#393555: ITP: libconfig-inetd-perl -- easy methods to modify /etc/inetd.conf

2006-10-16 Thread Mario Iseli
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mario Iseli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libconfig-inetd-perl Version : 0.25 Upstream Author : Steven Schubiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://search.cpan.org/~schubiger/Config-Inetd-0.25/ * License : Artistic

Re: Bug#393411: Source package contains non-free IETF RFC/I-D's

2006-10-16 Thread Simon Josefsson
Martin Zobel-Helas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi Simon, > > On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 01:48:50PM +0200, Simon Josefsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > * Simon Josefsson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061016 13:19]: >> >> I went over many packages looki

Re: Lack of transparency of automatic actions

2006-10-16 Thread Frank Küster
Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Even worse, you again have to use KDE or Gnome to take advantage of >> network-manager. Why are we leaving CLI users out in the cold? > > Good question. The concept for a cli like this would need many thoughts, > though. A GUI makes that a bit easier

Re: Bug#393317: ITP: teamspeak-client -- Very good Voice Chat

2006-10-16 Thread Frank Küster
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/15/06 22:01, Adam Cécile (Le_Vert) wrote: >> Package: wnpp >> Severity: wishlist >> Owner: "Adam Cécile (Le_Vert)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> * Package name: teamspeak-client >> Version : 2.0.32 >> Upstream Author : TeamSpeak Systems <

Re: safe halt/reboot/shutdown

2006-10-16 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.10.16.1740 +0200]: This script, along with symlinks from halt and reboot, lives in /usr/local/sbin on all my systems Replacing halt might be a bit risky, as the story in http://bugs.debian.or

Re: Question regarding maintainer email

2006-10-16 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 07:51:04PM +0200, Tobias Frost wrote: > My question, is, if this is ok with the debian packaging policy chapter > 3.3, or not (that is should I file a bug?) It is not considered acceptable. It's the default settings on alioth, and instructions on how to fix them are posted

Question regarding maintainer email

2006-10-16 Thread Tobias Frost
Hi, I have a question according maintainer email contact addresses: A group of packages have a - well - kind of private email list. But if reporting bugs, for example, you get a kind of bounce, which is quite annoying: (shows also up in the bug tracking system) --- quote --- Your mail to ... w

Re: Will IceWeasel be based on a fork or on vanilla FireFox?

2006-10-16 Thread Kevin B. McCarty
Ottavio Caruso wrote: > Lech Karol Paw³aszek wrote: > >> On Monday 16 October 2006 00:07, Jacobo Tarrio wrote: > [cut] >> > The fact that GNU chose the name "Iceweasel" for their own fork > of Firefox >> > is extremely unfortunate :-( >> >> Why it is unfortunate? > > Because they'll want Debi

Re: Bug#393411: Source package contains non-free IETF RFC/I-D's

2006-10-16 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi Simon, On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 01:48:50PM +0200, Simon Josefsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > * Simon Josefsson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061016 13:19]: > >> I went over many packages looking for names of likely non-free files, > >> and there may be

Re: trouble finding source for mail-notification on i386

2006-10-16 Thread Andreas Fester
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Tim, Tim Olsen wrote: > The latest source for mail-notification has a version number of > 3.0.dfsg.1-7 > > However, the latest i386 binary for mail-notification has a version > number of 3.0.dfsg.1-7+b1 > > What does the extra +b1 mean? How do I

Re: Mass-filing RC bugs about IETF RFC license based on file name

2006-10-16 Thread Simon Josefsson
I've reviewed the copyright file for the 66 bugs that I reported, manually, and I also inspected at least one claimed non-free file in each package. I should have done this from the start, but I felt (over-)confident that there wouldn't be false positives. I found one file that likely is a false

Re: trouble finding source for mail-notification on i386

2006-10-16 Thread Sam Morris
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 12:11:13 -0400, Tim Olsen wrote: > The latest source for mail-notification has a version number of 3.0.dfsg.1-7 > > However, the latest i386 binary for mail-notification has a version > number of 3.0.dfsg.1-7+b1 > > What does the extra +b1 mean? How do I recreate the i386 bu

Bug#393489: ITP: acovea-gtk -- GTK interface for the acovea package

2006-10-16 Thread Al Stone
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Al Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Package name: acovea-gtk Version : 1.0.1 Upstream Author : Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL : http://www.coyotegulch.com/products/acovea/acovea-gtk.html License : GPL Programming Lang: C++,

trouble finding source for mail-notification on i386

2006-10-16 Thread Tim Olsen
The latest source for mail-notification has a version number of 3.0.dfsg.1-7 However, the latest i386 binary for mail-notification has a version number of 3.0.dfsg.1-7+b1 What does the extra +b1 mean? How do I recreate the i386 build of mail-notification? thanks, Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Will IceWeasel be based on a fork or on vanilla FireFox?

2006-10-16 Thread Matthias Julius
"Sam Morris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:43:51 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > >> I think there will be a serious attempt at collaborating with the >> Gnuzilla folks to try to resolve this confusion. Meanwhile, we're >> trying to get the existing Firefox into Debian as free sof

Re: safe halt/reboot/shutdown

2006-10-16 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.10.16.1740 +0200]: > > This script, along with symlinks from halt and reboot, lives in > > /usr/local/sbin on all my systems > > Replacing halt might be a bit risky, as the story in > http://bugs.debian.org/354163> document. :) I would not

Re: Will IceWeasel be based on a fork or on vanilla FireFox?

2006-10-16 Thread Jérôme Marant
Le lundi 16 octobre 2006 15:26, Joey Hess a écrit : > Ottavio Caruso wrote: > > PS: Can't we just rename it '93r8d9yad4l260ud.lite'? It's easier to > > remember! > > I prefer d6a5c9544eca9b5ce2266d1c34a93222, or possibly > acb943ac7d07d80a71fa271962df81e944bae3b7. Git hater ? :-) -- Jérôme Mar

Re: safe halt/reboot/shutdown

2006-10-16 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[martin f kraft] > This script, along with symlinks from halt and reboot, lives in > /usr/local/sbin on all my systems Replacing halt might be a bit risky, as the story in http://bugs.debian.org/354163> document. :) Friendly, -- Petter Reinholdtsen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Mass-filing RC bugs about IETF RFC license based on file name

2006-10-16 Thread Simon Josefsson
Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [Simon Josefsson] >> Do you have suggestions to improve the situation? > > I would suspect manual inspection of each file, and only file bugs for > the files with real license problems. Using the file name to guess > about the existence of a serio

safe halt/reboot/shutdown

2006-10-16 Thread martin f krafft
Hi all, I am sure you've all once typed 'halt' only to notice that you were in an active SSH session and the machine on the other side of $BIG_DISTANCE obediently followed your request. I've done it way too much, so I ended up hacking up http://svn.madduck.net/pub/sbin/base/shutdown This scrip

Re: Will IceWeasel be based on a fork or on vanilla FireFox?

2006-10-16 Thread Joey Hess
Ottavio Caruso wrote: > PS: Can't we just rename it '93r8d9yad4l260ud.lite'? It's easier to remember! I prefer d6a5c9544eca9b5ce2266d1c34a93222, or possibly acb943ac7d07d80a71fa271962df81e944bae3b7. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Mass-filing RC bugs about IETF RFC license based on file name (Was: Bug#393411: Source package contains non-free IETF RFC/I-D's)

2006-10-16 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Simon Josefsson] > Do you have suggestions to improve the situation? I would suspect manual inspection of each file, and only file bugs for the files with real license problems. Using the file name to guess about the existence of a serious bug is not acceptable. How many bugs did you file? A

Re: Bug#393411: Source package contains non-free IETF RFC/I-D's

2006-10-16 Thread Simon Josefsson
Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Simon Josefsson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061016 13:19]: >> I went over many packages looking for names of likely non-free files, >> and there may be false positives. If this is the case for your >> package, I'm sorry for the noise. > > Sorry, but that is

Bug#393435: ITP: ksniffer -- network traffic analyzer for KDE

2006-10-16 Thread Francesco Pedrini
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Francesco Pedrini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: ksniffer Version : 0.2~alpha1 Upstream Author : Name giovanni (at) ksniffer.org * URL : http://www.ksniffer.org/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C++ Description

Re: How should we deal with 'pointless-on-this-arch' packages?

2006-10-16 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 09:33:51AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > not others (like gnome) should not be allowed. If the port decides > that they don't need any X, e.g. there is no hardware capable of > running X applications, then they could remove all X stuff as a > whole. That would be diff

Re: How should we deal with 'pointless-on-this-arch' packages?

2006-10-16 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 01:13:53AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 10/15/06 00:03, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > >> On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 07:30:15PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > [snip] >

Re: Bug#393411: Source package contains non-free IETF RFC/I-D's

2006-10-16 Thread Andreas Barth
* Simon Josefsson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061016 13:19]: > I went over many packages looking for names of likely non-free files, > and there may be false positives. If this is the case for your > package, I'm sorry for the noise. Sorry, but that is unacceptable behaviour. Cheers, Andi -- http:/

Re: Alas for lilypond in etch

2006-10-16 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 10:35:43PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Failing that, we can either remove lilypond 2.6 from etch, or not. I > am happy to do what other people judge to be best, since nobody is > generally happy with my own decisions here. I would think it would be an _extremely_ b

Re: malsync ready for adoption

2006-10-16 Thread Daniel Schepler
On Sunday 15 October 2006 21:48 pm, Ludovic Rousseau wrote: > If you are interested you should also adopt libmal. It causes a problem > on kpilot and I offered the package to the kpilot maintainer without an > answer from him. See #389353. > > If no one adopt it I will request the removal of malsyn

Re: Will IceWeasel be based on a fork or on vanilla FireFox?

2006-10-16 Thread Ottavio Caruso
Lech Karol Paw³aszek wrote: > On Monday 16 October 2006 00:07, Jacobo Tarrio wrote: [cut] > > The fact that GNU chose the name "Iceweasel" for their own fork of Firefox > > is extremely unfortunate :-( > > Why it is unfortunate? Because they'll want Debian to call it 'Gnu-Iceweasel' and they'l

Re: Bug#393317: ITP: teamspeak-client -- Very good Voice Chat

2006-10-16 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/15/06 22:01, Adam Cécile (Le_Vert) wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: "Adam Cécile (Le_Vert)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * Package name: teamspeak-client > Version : 2.0.32 > Upstream Author : TeamSpeak Systems <[E

Is Chris Anderson MIA?

2006-10-16 Thread Marcus Better
Hi, does anyone have information on the whereabouts of Chris Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, the maintainer of php-date? I'm trying to get the package updated because it's severely outdated, but I haven't received any responses on either bug reports or private e-mail. Marcus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Will IceWeasel be based on a fork or on vanilla FireFox?

2006-10-16 Thread Sam Morris
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:43:51 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > "Sam Morris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> It is unfortunate because of the user confusion that it will >> cause. IMO, the firefox package should not be renamed to iceweasel. > > If it's not renamed, we can't legally ship it. What, IYO,

Re: Will IceWeasel be based on a fork or on vanilla FireFox?

2006-10-16 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 09:27:32AM +0200, Jacobo Tarrio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > El lunes, 16 de octubre de 2006 a las 00:22:53 +0200, Lech Karol Paw?aszek > escribía: > > > > The fact that GNU chose the name "Iceweasel" for their own fork of > > > Firefox > > > is extremely unfortunate :-

Re: Will IceWeasel be based on a fork or on vanilla FireFox?

2006-10-16 Thread Jacobo Tarrio
El lunes, 16 de octubre de 2006 a las 09:27:32 +0200, Jacobo Tarrio escribía: > Plus, one could say that as someone in Debian came up with the name, then we > have priority over it. > Hey, we can register it as a trade mark! Before anyone gets the bright idea of getting all worked up about this

Re: Will IceWeasel be based on a fork or on vanilla FireFox?

2006-10-16 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Jacobo Tarrio wrote: > El lunes, 16 de octubre de 2006 a las 00:22:53 +0200, Lech Karol Paw?aszek > escribía: > > > The fact that GNU chose the name "Iceweasel" for their own fork of > > > Firefox > > > is extremely unfortunate :-( > > Why it is unfortunate? Mozilla Corporat

Re: Will IceWeasel be based on a fork or on vanilla FireFox?

2006-10-16 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Sam Morris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > It is unfortunate because of the user confusion that it will > > cause. IMO, the firefox package should not be renamed to > > iceweasel. > > If it's not renamed, we can't legally ship it. ... "we can't ship it

Re: mucking with dpkg control files in maintainer scripts?

2006-10-16 Thread Frank Küster
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> * sean finney >> >> | is this even remotely acceptable? i had the impressions that packages >> | must not assume the inner workings of dpkg. but, i can't back this up >> | with anything in policy

Re: Will IceWeasel be based on a fork or on vanilla FireFox?

2006-10-16 Thread Jacobo Tarrio
El lunes, 16 de octubre de 2006 a las 00:22:53 +0200, Lech Karol Paw?aszek escribía: > > The fact that GNU chose the name "Iceweasel" for their own fork of Firefox > > is extremely unfortunate :-( > Why it is unfortunate? Mozilla Corporation doesn't want (Debian) to use > firefox name without t