How should we deal with 'pointless-on-this-arch' packages?

2006-10-13 Thread Wookey
In general debian builds everything for every architecture. This is a very good plan and finds a lot of bugs. However there are some packages which are clearly not sensible on some arches. Numerical analysis software in general on arm is a good example of this class. Arm hardware is generally slow

Re: Lack of transparency of automatic actions

2006-10-13 Thread John Goerzen
On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 01:32:42AM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > > /etc/fstab: if something is marked "user", then a user can mount it. > > You can also look at the permissions of the entry in /dev to see if a > > user can access it directly. > > That is still the case > > > Now, apparently, if

Re: Lack of transparency of automatic actions

2006-10-13 Thread John Goerzen
On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 10:57:37PM +0200, Henning Glawe wrote: > On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 10:18:01AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > > But worse -- what if you're not using Gnome or KDE? I can find no way > > for a user that doesn't use any X applications to take advantage of this > > automatic suppor

Re: delay of the full etch freeze

2006-10-13 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 10:22:43PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen a écrit : > [Charles Plessy] > > The rationale is that the 8th is "old freeze deadline minus 10 > > days", so it was not completely unreasonnable to take this day as > > the deadline for having new packages in Etch. > > I find this comp

Bug#392828: ITP: exaile -- a media player written in GTK+

2006-10-13 Thread Francois Fevotte
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Francois Fevotte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: exaile Version : 0.2.4 Upstream Author : Adam Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.exaile.org/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C, Python Description :

Re: Lack of transparency of automatic actions

2006-10-13 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Friday 13 October 2006 17:18, John Goerzen wrote: > Even worse, you again have to use KDE or Gnome to take advantage of > network-manager. Why are we leaving CLI users out in the cold? It is > quite possible to use mutt, ssh, and ftp on a laptop. And it's > frustrating to know that my ne

Re: Lack of transparency of automatic actions

2006-10-13 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Freitag 13 Oktober 2006 17:18 schrieb John Goerzen: > This has been bugging me for some time now, and I'd like to see if we > can improve the situation. > > The main problem is that it's not clear how all this media > autodection/automounting works. It's not clear how to enable it, it's > not c

#379113: python-soappy: fpconst failure on 64 Bit

2006-10-13 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Hello, since the last bugfixes/upload for the python-soappy package have been NMUs, I'm posting to debian-devel, too. * #379113 renders the package more or less useless on all 64bit platforms, at least its WSDL part. This should be fixed before etch comes out. * the fpconst URL mentioned i

Bug#392804: ITP: ipager -- netwm compliant pager

2006-10-13 Thread Francois Fevotte
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Francois Fevotte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: ipager Version : 1.1.0 Upstream Author : Sukhanov Vadim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Shashkin Konstantin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mathias Gumz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://useperl.ru

Re: delay of the full etch freeze

2006-10-13 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 10:32:24PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > Yes, this is my official position on the question (dunno about Andi's, I'm > > replying to email off-line at the moment and haven't checked with him, but I > > would guess his position is similar). > > The only packages in NE

Re: want to contribute

2006-10-13 Thread Kari Pahula
On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 10:39:18AM -0500, Arvind kumar wrote: > I am using debian linux for quite some time and quite impress by it. I want > to contribute to its development . It would help if you could narrow down your interest somewhat. Some possible projects are listed at http://www.us.debian

Re: Request for virtual package ircd

2006-10-13 Thread Aurélien GÉRÔME
Hi, On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 12:10:51AM +0200, Mario Iseli wrote: > as described in > http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/virtual-package-names-list.txt > I announce here my idea of the virtual package ircd. When I count > correctly are at the moment 7 different IRC-daemons in Debian and th

Re: Final call for votes for"GR: Re-affirm support to the Debian Project Leader"

2006-10-13 Thread John Hasler
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want to adopt craft package

2006-10-13 Thread Arvind kumar
I searched the list of package available for adoption. I am interested in adopting craft package. But I need little help from Mr Hueffner for some time Arvind

Re: Lack of transparency of automatic actions

2006-10-13 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 13 octobre 2006 à 10:18 -0500, John Goerzen a écrit : > But worse -- what if you're not using Gnome or KDE? I can find no way > for a user that doesn't use any X applications to take advantage of this > automatic support, even if the user is in the plugdev group. I can't > even find a

Re: Lack of transparency of automatic actions

2006-10-13 Thread Henning Glawe
On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 10:18:01AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > But worse -- what if you're not using Gnome or KDE? I can find no way > for a user that doesn't use any X applications to take advantage of this > automatic support, even if the user is in the plugdev group. I can't > even find a way

Load templates with debconf-loadtemplate

2006-10-13 Thread Rodrigo Tavares
Hello, How I must confugure the locales, from this error finish. Best regards, debian-sarge:~/proftpd-1.2.10# debconf-loadtemplate perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = "pt_BR:pt:pt_PT", LC_ALL = (unset), L

Re: want to contribute

2006-10-13 Thread gregor herrmann
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:39:18 -0500, Arvind kumar wrote: > I am using debian linux for quite some time and quite impress by it. I want > to contribute to its development . > Please give me some pointers . I looked at website , it not quite clear how > to start Take a look at http://www.debian.org/

Re: Starting services in runlevels 0 and 6

2006-10-13 Thread Christian Perrier
> The reason this might break is that several init.d scripts are missing > dependency information, so the boot order generated by insserv might > be incorrect. insserv include override files for some of these From what I see, having this will not happen for etch. Do you think it could be a rele

Re: incoming locked?

2006-10-13 Thread Andreas Metzler
Toni Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I uploaded a version of my roundup package some two days ago which > cleans up important bugs. The package page shows the upload on > 2006-10-11, but when searching for it on w.d.o/packages, I get only an > older version which *has* bugs. Any chance that th

Re: Build failure: cannot find -lglib-2.0

2006-10-13 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 11:40:04AM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > A number of packages currently fail to build with: > /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lglib-2.0 > > Can someone please investigate whether this is a bug in those packages > or some underlying problem and file bugs. I've put some bui

Re: Lack of transparency of automatic actions

2006-10-13 Thread Warren Turkal
On Friday 13 October 2006 09:18, John Goerzen wrote: >  Why are we leaving CLI users out in the cold? I would guess that no one has developed the requisite components for a CLI interface. This is clearly something that no developers (Debian or otherwise) have picked up as an important or fun pro

Re: Starting services in runlevels 0 and 6

2006-10-13 Thread Jörg Sommer
Hello Jurij, Jurij Smakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 07:34:19PM -0700, Jurij Smakov wrote: >> /etc/rc0.d/S30urandom >> /etc/rc0.d/S35networking >> /etc/rc0.d/S36ifupdown >> /etc/rc0.d/S37sendsigs (start action for this one is a no-op) >> /etc/rc0.d/S48cryptdisks >> /etc/

want to contribute

2006-10-13 Thread Arvind kumar
I am using debian linux for quite some time and quite impress by it. I want to contribute to its development . Please give me some pointers . I looked at website , it not quite clear how to start Arvind

Re: Request for virtual package ircd

2006-10-13 Thread Ian Jackson
Russ Allbery writes ("Re: Request for virtual package ircd"): > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > m-t-a's must conflict because they are required by policy to provide a > > sendmail program at a fixed filesystem location. > > I was about to say the same thing earlier, but then realize

Lack of transparency of automatic actions

2006-10-13 Thread John Goerzen
Hello, This has been bugging me for some time now, and I'd like to see if we can improve the situation. The main problem is that it's not clear how all this media autodection/automounting works. It's not clear how to enable it, it's not clear how the permissions work, and it's not clear how to m

Re: Help offered 2 - opinion wanted about debian.org

2006-10-13 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
HXC wrote: I also wondered what the community finds about the colours and layout used for the website Does it need to be upgraded? Do find a new layout or other colours more appealing? If so what do you have in mind? Or do you think the current theme is just fine? The current theme and colors

position statement from the kernel team over the current non-free firmware GR vote (Was: Call for votes for "GR: : Handling source-less firmware in the Linux kernel")

2006-10-13 Thread Sven Luther
Hello, The kernel team consider that neither of the two proposals currently under vote [1] are a good solution to the non-free firmware problem. Furthermore, a consensual proposal has now reached enough seconds [2] to be put to vote, and is much preferable, both in clearness of text as in actual

Re: Orphaning most of my packages

2006-10-13 Thread David Nusinow
On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 01:02:49AM -0400, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > Steve Greenland wrote: > > Bug#392672: O: positron - synchronization manager for the Neuros Audio > > Computer Python. Probably dead after v1.1. Pierre Habouzit has NMU'd a > > version 1.1 upgrade and support for new python polic

incoming locked?

2006-10-13 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, I uploaded a version of my roundup package some two days ago which cleans up important bugs. The package page shows the upload on 2006-10-11, but when searching for it on w.d.o/packages, I get only an older version which *has* bugs. Any chance that the fixed version gets into Etch? http://pa

Re: Request for virtual package ircd

2006-10-13 Thread Michael Poole
Brian May writes: >> "Michael" == Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Michael> Why do you think these servers conflict with each other? > > ... because, generally speaking, the servers will be automatically > installed at installation, and if the port is in use, then > installati

Re: how to tell people to dpkg-reconfigure exim4-_CONFIG_?

2006-10-13 Thread Frank Küster
Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:05:07 +0200, Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >>In that case, where the problem is that people do *not* read these >>files, and "dpkg-reconfigure exim4" exits silently without doing >>anything, it seems to be ideal. > > Explai

Re: anticipating the upstart migration

2006-10-13 Thread Michael Biebl
Gabor Gombas wrote: > On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 01:44:00AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > >> We don't really need the ability to install *multiple* init systems in >> parallel imho > > Yes we do, for the same reason we allow multiple kernel images to be > installed simultaneously: if the new one doe

Response to your ListGuru session [MsgId AA20061012.223301.4]

2006-10-13 Thread listguru
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Bug#392721: ITP: pyecm -- Number factorization with the Elliptic Curve Method (ECM)

2006-10-13 Thread Martin Kelly
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Martin Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: pyecm Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Martin Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/pyecm/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: Python Descri

Re: how to tell people to dpkg-reconfigure exim4-_CONFIG_?

2006-10-13 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:05:07 +0200, Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >In that case, where the problem is that people do *not* read these >files, and "dpkg-reconfigure exim4" exits silently without doing >anything, it seems to be ideal. Explain that please. Greetings Marc -- -

Re: how to tell people to dpkg-reconfigure exim4-_CONFIG_?

2006-10-13 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 19:30:52 -0700, Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >So have a note in exim4's debconf which tells the users that, and only >display the note if DEBCONF_RECONFIGURE=1 or $1='reconfigure'. That is what I did for the exim4 package uploaded on Tuesday. Greetings Marc -- --

Re: how to tell people to dpkg-reconfigure exim4-_CONFIG_?

2006-10-13 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:44:57 +0200, Reinhard Tartler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >If we cannot expect that, perhaps we should advertise the existance of >those README.Debian files better. I would be interested in how exim4 can advertise its README.Debian any better, short paying for google adwords.

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-13 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, 7 Oct 2006 18:32:08 +0200, Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Am 2006-10-06 18:06:47, schrieb Mikhail Gusarov: >> Do aptitude checks terminal even for 'aptitude install' or 'aptitude >> search'? > >Good question! The two offending Servers use Monocrom-Graficcards. >Maybe aptitud

Build failure: cannot find -lglib-2.0

2006-10-13 Thread Martin Michlmayr
A number of packages currently fail to build with: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lglib-2.0 Can someone please investigate whether this is a bug in those packages or some underlying problem and file bugs. I've put some buid logs at http://people.debian.org/~tbm/logs/glib.bz2 -- Martin Michlmayr h

Re: Starting services in runlevels 0 and 6

2006-10-13 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh] > On Thu, 12 Oct 2006, Jurij Smakov wrote: >> It was pointed out to me, that even the scripts starting with S are >> called with argument 'stop' for runlevels 0 and 6 by /etc/init.d/rc. >> However, the reason why it is implemented that way is still not clear. > > Br

Re: Starting services in runlevels 0 and 6

2006-10-13 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 12 octobre 2006 à 20:33 -0700, Jurij Smakov a écrit : > It was pointed out to me, that even the scripts starting with S are > called with argument 'stop' for runlevels 0 and 6 by /etc/init.d/rc. > However, the reason why it is implemented that way is still not clear. IIRC, it is so that

Re: Request for virtual package ircd

2006-10-13 Thread Roger Leigh
Mario Iseli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 12:38:03AM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote: >> Wouldn't "relay-chat-server" or "relay-chat-daemon" be a better name. > > I think no, we also call it "httpd" and not "web-server" or > "hypertext-transfer-protocol-server". That's a hist

Re: Request for virtual package ircd

2006-10-13 Thread Brian May
> "Michael" == Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Michael> Why do you think these servers conflict with each other? ... because, generally speaking, the servers will be automatically installed at installation, and if the port is in use, then installation may fail. Also, the server