On 12/10/06 at 00:10 +0200, Mario Iseli wrote:
> Hello,
>
> as described in
> http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/virtual-package-names-list.txt
> I announce here my idea of the virtual package ircd. When I count
> correctly are at the moment 7 different IRC-daemons in Debian and they
> lo
On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 06:34:41PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> It's also possible to run multiple FTP servers, each listening on a
> different port, but all the packaged ftp daemons "Conflicts:
> ftp-server".
That is bad, IMO. (and chance to raise my opinion about virtual
packages ;) )
Conflicts
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006, Roland Mas wrote:
> Sam Morris, 2006-10-11 13:40:08 +0200 :
>
> > I think HAL/PolicyTool/pam_foreground will eventually give us a
> > (slow?) solution to problems like this, but it's some way off at the
> > moment. Being able to add/revoke permissions with traditional
> > secu
Le Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 06:58:55PM +0200, Andreas Barth a écrit :
>
> For these reasons, we are delaying the full archive freeze for a few days.
> We haven't chosen a date yet, but you can still expect it to happen in
> October or early November.
Dear Andreas,
May I suggest to delay the freeze a
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 12:20:05 +0100, Yan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Ian Jackson wrote:
>> Furthermore, the SELinux patches I have seen in various
>> applications have given me an extremely poor impression of the code
>> quality[1]. This will probably extend to other areas of SELinux.
>>
>> I s
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On 10/11/06 17:58, Mario Iseli wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 12:38:03AM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
>> Wouldn't "relay-chat-server" or "relay-chat-daemon" be a better name.
>
> I think no, we also call it "httpd" and not "web-server" or
> "hypert
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On 10/11/06 17:50, tony mancill wrote:
> Marco d'Itri wrote:
>> On Oct 12, Mario Iseli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> as described in
>>> http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/virtual-package-names-list.txt
>>> I announce here my idea of the v
Mario Iseli writes:
> Hello,
>
> as described in
> http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/virtual-package-names-list.txt
> I announce here my idea of the virtual package ircd. When I count
> correctly are at the moment 7 different IRC-daemons in Debian and they
> logically conflict with each
On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 12:38:03AM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
> Wouldn't "relay-chat-server" or "relay-chat-daemon" be a better name.
I think no, we also call it "httpd" and not "web-server" or
"hypertext-transfer-protocol-server".
> Only if they really work with _all_ of them, even new ones.
Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > If people do not READ THE RESOLUTION, then they get what they
> > deserve.
>
> In a vote, those who do not read the resolution affect others who
> do. This is one of the benefits of a discussion period --
Am Donnerstag 12 Oktober 2006 00:21 schrieb Hendrik Sattler:
> > (and successively libopenobex-1.0-0, cc:ing its maintainer)
>
> We'll see if it goes automatically. It should as the source package does
> not exist anymore.
Well, it does still exist. If it does not go automatically, I'll file a new
Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Oct 12, Mario Iseli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> as described in
>> http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/virtual-package-names-list.txt
>> I announce here my idea of the virtual package ircd. When I count
>> correctly are at the moment 7 different IRC-daemons in
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On 10/11/06 03:02, Theppitak Karoonboonyanan wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> Owner: Theppitak Karoonboonyanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> * Package name: datrie
> Version : 0.1.0
> Upstream Author : Theppitak Karoonboonyan
On Oct 12, Mario Iseli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> as described in
> http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/virtual-package-names-list.txt
> I announce here my idea of the virtual package ircd. When I count
> correctly are at the moment 7 different IRC-daemons in Debian and they
> logically
Am Donnerstag 12 Oktober 2006 00:10 schrieb Mario Iseli:
> as described in
> http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/virtual-package-names-list.txt
> I announce here my idea of the virtual package ircd. When I count
> correctly are at the moment 7 different IRC-daemons in Debian and they
> logi
Hello!
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 00:21:03 +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
> Am Donnerstag 12 Oktober 2006 00:06 schrieb Luca Capello:
>> As the maintainer agrees, we should ask for remotion of obexserver
>
> The bug for removal is already filed: #392447
Oh, that's very good, I thought that a note would h
* Matthias Julius ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Eric Dorland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > * Matthias Julius ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >> Eric Dorland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>
> >> >> - If you set up the alternatives in preinst, then there is a time when
> >> >> the symlink exists
Am Donnerstag 12 Oktober 2006 00:06 schrieb Luca Capello:
> As the maintainer agrees, we should ask for remotion of obexserver
The bug for removal is already filed: #392447
> (and successively libopenobex-1.0-0, cc:ing its maintainer)
We'll see if it goes automatically. It should as the source p
Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > So, given this poorly worded ballot, i suppose the vote will be
> > void anyway, and i strongly call for everyone to vote further
> > discussion over the other solutions.
>
> If people do not READ THE R
Hello,
as described in
http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/virtual-package-names-list.txt
I announce here my idea of the virtual package ircd. When I count
correctly are at the moment 7 different IRC-daemons in Debian and they
logically conflict with each other. So I would think an officia
Hello!
Taking this out of bug [1] and to d-d to have a more advice on the
correct action to be taken (as per DevRef §5.9.2 [2]).
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 16:47:08 +0200, Michael Holzt wrote:
>> Good idea, I talked with Eugeniy about that. Though, I guess the
>> final decision is to the obexserver main
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 16:31:37 +0200
Gernot Salzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > First, there is no safe way to revoke privileges from a user. If a user
> > gets access to a certain group he/she can arrange ways to keep it,
> > even after being logged out (make a suid binary for example).
>
> I
Gervase Markham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Simon Josefsson wrote:
>> http://wiki.debian.org/NonFreeIETFDocuments
>
> A useful thing to add to that page would be simple instructions on how
> those authoring IETF documents could make them available under a
> DFSG-free licence (presumably in paral
Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> So, given this poorly worded ballot, i suppose the vote will be void anyway,
> and i strongly call for everyone to vote further discussion over the other
> solutions.
If people do not READ THE RESOLUTION, then they get what they deserve.
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Eric Dorland writes ("Re: anticipating the upstart migration"):
> Shouldn't it be possible to move the alternatives around in an atomic
> fashion? ln -sf bar foo.tmp ; mv foo.tmp foo . Or am I missing
> something?
This is in theory possible, I suppose. You would have to avoid
update-alternatives
I will not be able to spend much time on the ppp package before the
release, so I am requesting help in triaging and fixing as many bugs
as possible (the list is long, but let's only consider the ones opened
this year) and uploading a new package ASAP.
There is nothing actually *terrible* in the pa
* Roberto C. Sanchez:
> Then, I guess the relevant question has to do with whether or not
> adduser (and the rest of the components that touch or use the username)
> are RFC2822 compliant.
Most certainly they are not. Embedded NUL characters are allowed in
local-parts.
I don't think this is a p
On Oct 11, Michael Biebl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Having the "init" binary installed as /sbin/upstart and only diverting
> the not so critical binaries seems to be the safest option indeed.
I had to use many diverions in the module-init-tools package because
there was no other acceptable solut
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On Wednesday 11 October 2006 14:12 pm, Gernot Salzer wrote:
> Don't mechanisms like libpam_devperm grant exclusive access?
> On login the ownership of the devices is set to the console user,
> and only the owner is granted rwx-rights. On logout
> ownership/permissions of the device revert to the ol
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Sam Morris, 2006-10-11 13:40:08 +0200 :
> I think HAL/PolicyTool/pam_foreground will eventually give us a
> (slow?) solution to problems like this, but it's some way off at the
> moment. Being able to add/revoke permissions with traditional
> security methods (i.e. group membership) requires kerne
Eric Dorland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> * Matthias Julius ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> Eric Dorland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> >> - If you set up the alternatives in preinst, then there is a time when
>> >> the symlink exists but the pointed binary hasn't been unpacked yet ->
>> >>
* Matthias Julius ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Eric Dorland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >> - If you set up the alternatives in preinst, then there is a time when
> >> the symlink exists but the pointed binary hasn't been unpacked yet ->
> >> unbootable system.
> >> - If you set up the alte
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Oct 2006, Gabor Gombas wrote:
>> On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 10:53:39PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
>>> No wrappers for the single most critical binary in a Unix system after the
>>> libc. Sorry.
>> Right. How about upstart not providing a
Ian Jackson wrote:
> Furthermore, the SELinux patches I have seen in various applications
> have given me an extremely poor impression of the code quality[1].
> This will probably extend to other areas of SELinux.
>
> I say, ditch SELinux.
>
> Ian.
>
> [1] Here's just one example, from src/archi
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Debian Developers,
I hope this is the right forum to express this idea.
I have not received any feedback from the maintainer of the aoetools package,
so I wanted to voice my concerns over that package in front of a wider
audience as I don't want to see the aoetools ship in the crappy form in wh
On Oct 11, Jan Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Package name: irrtoolset
Do you actually /use/ it?
The precedent version used to reliably segfault when I tried to process
non-trivial configurations.
> The "Internet Routing Registry Toolset" (IRRToolSet) project is a new
The package hist
Eric Dorland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> - If you set up the alternatives in preinst, then there is a time when
>> the symlink exists but the pointed binary hasn't been unpacked yet ->
>> unbootable system.
>> - If you set up the alternatives in postinst, there is a time when there
>> is
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Jan Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* Package name: irrtoolset
Version : 4.8.4
Upstream Author : Joao Damas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.isc.org/index.pl?/sw/IRRToolSet/
* License : 3-clause BSD with non-commercial on
> First, there is no safe way to revoke privileges from a user. If a user
> gets access to a certain group he/she can arrange ways to keep it,
> even after being logged out (make a suid binary for example).
I admit that I don't know much about the internals of Unix/Linux.
So, if upon login of us
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 07:40:42AM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
>> Of course the clean solution would be to signal to the tools not to look
>> and write into HOME, but it's hardly realistic to assume that all tools
>> used (an ever increasing and changing
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 14:12:20 +0200
Gernot Salzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Don't mechanisms like libpam_devperm grant exclusive access?
> On login the ownership of the devices is set to the console user,
> and only the owner is granted rwx-rights. On logout
> ownership/permissions of the devic
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Theppitak Karoonboonyanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Version : 0.1.0
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* URL : http://libthai.sourceforg
> > Having to add users to particular groups is not reasonable in a
> > desktop setting. There, one would like to have the current user
> > at the console (logged in via gdm or similar) to be the one with
> > exclusive rights on local devices (fixed ones like audio and video
> > as well as variable
Peter Palfrader wrote:
> Ever tried the simulate button in the orphaner frontend? I don't know
> apt-findremovable's UI but I very much like orphaner's. But then I
> might be just slightly biased. :)
don't care about apt-findremovable anymore, debfoster does it's job much
better :)
> Peter
Jan
On Thu, 05 Oct 2006, Jan Kechel wrote:
> Brian May wrote:
> >> "Jan" == Jan Kechel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >
> > Jan> I wrote a little perl-script:
> >
> > How does this compare with deborphan?
> >
>
> deborphan shows you the 'leave' packages of your dependency-tree
>
> apt
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:08:27 +0200, Gernot Salzer wrote:
> It seems that users have to be added to group "audio"
> in order to be able to access audio devices, group "video" to access
> video devices, "cdrom" to access cdrom, and so on. Or did I miss some
> setting during installation of etch?
>
Dear DDs & D-friends,
what is the standard/canonical way of handling device permissions
in Debian ("etch" in my case) on desktop PCs running a GUI?
It seems that users have to be added to group "audio"
in order to be able to access audio devices, group "video" to access
video devices, "cdrom" to
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 09:32:16AM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
>> >
>> > > However, I'd like to point out that this problem is not special to TeX.
>> > > Many programs create ~/.progname directories wh
* Steve Kemp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) :
> I've recently orphaned all my packages whilst being on a
> bit of hiatus from project work.
[...]
> Several packages are still unclaimed, although people have
> offered on some of them. Please take a look at the list if
> you're interested:
[...]
>*
On Sat, Oct 07, 2006 at 06:32:08PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Am 2006-10-06 18:06:47, schrieb Mikhail Gusarov:
> > Do aptitude checks terminal even for 'aptitude install' or 'aptitude
> > search'?
>
> Good question! The two offending Servers use Monocrom-Graficcards.
> Maybe aptitude can no
Le mercredi 11 octobre 2006 à 08:20 +0200, Mike Hommey a écrit :
> Something similar should be done with package installations... I hate
> that my /root is cluttered with .gconf, .anthy, .gnome, .gnupg, .qt ...
> while I never run that kind of software as root...
As for .gconf, GConf schemas are n
Le mardi 10 octobre 2006 à 19:22 +0200, HXC a écrit :
> I am wondering if it is possible to use the Minix kernel in Debian. If
> so wouldn't that be an interesting project to release a Debian minix
> version? (just like Debian BSD and Debian Hurd :-) )
A first thing to do, to see if this is poss
On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 07:40:42AM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
> Of course the clean solution would be to signal to the tools not to look
> and write into HOME, but it's hardly realistic to assume that all tools
> used (an ever increasing and changing set) will always follow such a
> rule. Therefor
On Sat, Oct 07, 2006 at 06:52:41PM -0500, Debian Project Secretary wrote:
> - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> c2d43675-9efa-4809-a4aa-af042b62786e
> [ ] Choice 1: Release Etch even with kernel firmware issues
Manoj, you have again overstepped your Secre
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: alex bodnaru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* Package name: mooedit
Version : x.y.z
Upstream Author : Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 07:55:54AM +0200, Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> Yes, that's the ideal solution. In the real world, my suggestion may
>> improve the situation faster.
>>
>> Just got an other idea, slower too, but makes the "ideal so
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