Jim Crilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Intel's daemon isn't as bad as the Atheros HAL or nVidia's blob
Could you please elaborat on that? why is ath_hal.ko or nvidia.ko worse
than intel's daemon?
The only real difference is that intel's daemon doesn't run in
kernelspace. Why is is that better
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On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 09:48:01PM +0200, Clément Stenac wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > [ Debian-specific feature ]
> > - Correct execution of /etc/cron.{hourly,daily,weekly,monthly}
>
> Don't we support these by using entries in /etc/crontab and run-parts
> for all cron systems, which would make this req
Aurélien GÉRÔME <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> As soon as I send a mail, the deamon restarts... Good news! ;)
Yep. Thanks magic elves!
On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 07:10:26AM +0200, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote:
> I, too, want to know... What is the purpose of fixing RC bugs for Etch
> if our uploads are stalled? Damn, is the UploadQueue the new NEW? :(
>
> No announce has been made for debianqueued downtime, so what is up?
As soon as I sen
On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 10:06:04PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> The upload queue on ftp-master.debian.org seems to be stuck; anyone
> know why?
I, too, want to know... What is the purpose of fixing RC bugs for Etch
if our uploads are stalled? Damn, is the UploadQueue the new NEW? :(
No ann
The upload queue on ftp-master.debian.org seems to be stuck; anyone
know why?
Thomas
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On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 06:48:17PM -0400, Jim Crilly wrote:
> On 10/08/06 02:30:14PM -0700, Jurij Smakov wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 07:57:27PM +0200, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
> > > Jurij Smakov wrote:
> > > > * Package name: ipw3945-daemon
> > > > Version : 1.7.22
> > > > U
On 10/09/06 12:11:28AM +0100, Stephen Gran wrote:
> This one time, at band camp, Jim Crilly said:
> > Most people are willing to deal with firmware since they don't run on the
> > host CPU but only on the card that they're controlling. Intel's daemon
> > isn't as bad as the Atheros HAL or nVidia's
On Sun, 08 Oct 2006, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
> I propose another solution. Introduce init-common with wrappers:
No wrappers for the single most critical binary in a Unix system after the
libc. Sorry.
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hi all,
just wondering: is there a reason why those simple aclocal-1.8 patches
haven't been applied yet? it would be nice to make autoreconf a little
happier.
i am not aware of any backward compatibility issue, so i can't see how
this could hurt, but maybe i missed something.
cc-ing to the corr
Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote:
> Em Sun, 8 Oct 2006 18:56:39 +0200
> Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu:
>
>>> The various commands you said could be provided as slaves to
>>> the /sbin/init alternative, which will make them be switched
>>> 'atomically'.
>> But you need the shutdown comman
On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 11:22:05PM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
> Am Sonntag 08 Oktober 2006 22:58 schrieb James Westby:
> > The default level when doing dpkg-reconfigure is low, so that it wont be
> > seen on installation, but if the user tries to reconfigure exim4 they
> > will be directed to th
This one time, at band camp, Jim Crilly said:
> Most people are willing to deal with firmware since they don't run on the
> host CPU but only on the card that they're controlling. Intel's daemon
> isn't as bad as the Atheros HAL or nVidia's blob, but it's still non-free
> and non-necessary. OpenBS
On Oct 08, Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I propose another solution. Introduce init-common with wrappers:
I propose that people here will finally learn that complexity is bad.
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> On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 07:57:27PM +0200, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
> > Jurij Smakov wrote:
> > > * Package name: ipw3945-daemon
> > > Version : 1.7.22
> > > Upstream Author : Intel Corporation
> > > * URL : http://http
On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 12:45:17AM +0200, Gabor Gombas wrote:
> PostgreSQL did a similar trick because upgrading to a new major version
> needs the binaries of the _previously_ installed version to be able to
> upgrade the database.
And this was extremely error-prone and caused all sorts of failur
On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 11:48:44PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> What happens if you lose power between deinstalling sysvinit and unpacking
> upstart, eg?
Always leave the old version of init available as /sbin/init.old. That
way you can get a working system by booting with "init=/sbin/init.old"
On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 07:57:27PM +0200, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
> Jurij Smakov wrote:
> > * Package name: ipw3945-daemon
> > Version : 1.7.22
> > Upstream Author : Intel Corporation
> > * URL : http://http://bughost.org/ipw3945/
> > * License : Redistribution
Am Sonntag 08 Oktober 2006 22:58 schrieb James Westby:
> The default level when doing dpkg-reconfigure is low, so that it wont be
> seen on installation, but if the user tries to reconfigure exim4 they
> will be directed to the correct package.
The ultimate solution would be it dpkg-reconfigure ma
On Sun, Oct 08, 2006, Attilio Fiandrotti wrote:
> Just today mike emmel fixed the "boom" bug, it should technically
> possible switching to GTK+ 2.10.x.
Repeating this here for other readers: 2.10.6-2 in experimental was
uploaded today with the fix.
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On (08/10/06 22:35), Frans Pop wrote:
> On Sunday 08 October 2006 22:26, Marc Haber wrote:
> > I'd now like a low priority debconf note in exim4, exim4-base and the
> > daemon packages which is only shown if the package is to be
> > _re_configured, and tells people to dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config.
Am Sonntag 08 Oktober 2006 22:26 schrieb Marc Haber:
> "how to reconfigure exim4" is one of the most frequently asked
> questions on #debian.
>
> The reason is that dpkg-reconfigure exim4 is a no-op since exim4 is a
> metapackage pulling in the "real" packages exim4, exim4-base,
> exim4-daemon-ligh
On Sunday 08 October 2006 22:26, Marc Haber wrote:
> I'd now like a low priority debconf note in exim4, exim4-base and the
> daemon packages which is only shown if the package is to be
> _re_configured, and tells people to dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config.
A _low_ priority note probably makes no sens
Hi,
"how to reconfigure exim4" is one of the most frequently asked
questions on #debian.
The reason is that dpkg-reconfigure exim4 is a no-op since exim4 is a
metapackage pulling in the "real" packages exim4, exim4-base,
exim4-daemon-light/heavy/custom. The correct command to reconfigure
exim4 is
Am Sonntag 08 Oktober 2006 21:09 schrieb Gustavo Noronha Silva:
> Em Sun, 8 Oct 2006 18:56:39 +0200
>
> Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu:
> > > The various commands you said could be provided as slaves to
> > > the /sbin/init alternative, which will make them be switched
> > > 'atomical
On Sunday 08 October 2006 21:05, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
> I propose re-adding 'cron-daemon' with the following requirements (that
> will need to be written down similarly to the 11.6. section "Mail
> transport, delivery and user agents"):
Maybe add:
- should be able to work nicely w
Hi,
> [ Debian-specific feature ]
> - Correct execution of /etc/cron.{hourly,daily,weekly,monthly}
Don't we support these by using entries in /etc/crontab and run-parts
for all cron systems, which would make this requirement void ?
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Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu:
> > The various commands you said could be provided as slaves to
> > the /sbin/init alternative, which will make them be switched
> > 'atomically'.
>
> But you need the shutdown command for the running init, not for t
Em Sun, 08 Oct 2006 18:57:50 +0200
Michael Biebl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu:
> > The various commands you said could be provided as slaves to
> > the /sbin/init alternative, which will make them be switched
> > 'atomically'.
>
> Ok, but it would still need changes to the sysvinit package, which
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Hi all,
It was suggested to me (#349170) that we should use a virtual package
'cron-service' to make it easier to people to switch between different cron
implementations. Currently in Debian there are three of them available:
vixie-cron, which is our cu
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This mail really should have gone out at least two and probably three
weeks earlier. Blame goes to the discussions on d-{private,vote,wherever}
which resulted in a serious drop in my motivation
On (08/10/06 17:22), Uwe Hermann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sat, Oct 07, 2006 at 10:36:25PM +0100, James Westby wrote:
> > If you have exim installed, you must either install postfix or write an
> > exim policy, as none currently exists.
> >
> > Is this still the case? It seems that it would be odd
James Westby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> If you have exim installed, you must either install postfix or write an
> exim policy, as none currently exists.
> Is this still the case?
[...]
Yes it is. #387327 #390179
Neither Marc nor me are using selinux and therefore we do not
have the k
Am Sonntag 08 Oktober 2006 18:40 schrieb Gustavo Noronha Silva:
> Em Sun, 08 Oct 2006 18:25:57 +0200
>
> Michael Biebl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu:
> > > "sysvinit only" -> "sysvinit + upstart" (using
> > > alternatives/diversions)
> >
> > No offense, but I wouldn't trust the alternatives syst
Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote:
> Em Sun, 08 Oct 2006 18:25:57 +0200
> Michael Biebl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu:
>>> "sysvinit only" -> "sysvinit + upstart" (using
>>> alternatives/diversions)
>> No offense, but I wouldn't trust the alternatives system for something
>> sensible as /sbin/init. Pl
On Oct 07, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Realistically, most people do not use vacation, finger, and
> sharutils either.
I have no objections to demoting any of these.
> Are we talking about disk usage? I am not sure
> that the increase in disk usage is perceptible on a
Em Sun, 08 Oct 2006 18:25:57 +0200
Michael Biebl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu:
> > "sysvinit only" -> "sysvinit + upstart" (using
> > alternatives/diversions)
>
> No offense, but I wouldn't trust the alternatives system for something
> sensible as /sbin/init. Please also remember that it's not
Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 10:43:00PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
>> In order to enable this change, we're facing the "To continue type
>> in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!'" problem because sysvinit is
>> marked essential.
>
> That's only a problem if you're going from "sysvi
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On Sat, Oct 07, 2006 at 10:36:25PM +0100, James Westby wrote:
> If you have exim installed, you must either install postfix or write an
> exim policy, as none currently exists.
>
> Is this still the case? It seems that it would be odd to install it by
> default if the default MTA is not
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Hi Christian,
Hi Frans,
As I have been on a long vacation (with no wifi unlike Mexico,
unfortunately), I have not managed to report the activity at Georgian
DI translations earlier.
We have distributed the DI file on online translation tool so more
people can participate and hope to get the file
> As I have been on a long vacation (with no wifi unlike Mexico,
> unfortunately), I have not managed to report the activity at Georgian
> DI translations earlier.
:-)
>
> We have distributed the DI file on online translation tool so more
> people can participate and hope to get the file done i
also sprach Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.10.08.0846 +0200]:
> As enthusiastic as I am about being able to replace sysvinit with
> something better, this is the wrong time in the release cycle to
> be making dependency changes to Essential, or even to the base
> system in general. I cer
> On the positive side: we've gained support for Marathi.
s/Gujarati/Marathi
Marathi had been accidentally enabled but the translations are
currently all fuzzy. I disabled it along with Xhosa and Belarusian,
yesterday. There is nearly no chance that Marathi gets activated as it
started very late
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This mail really should have gone out at least two and probably three
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which resulted in a serious drop in my motivation in recent weeks an
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* Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-10-07 00:42]:
(...)
> As per policy, I am raising a balloon about ths issue; I think
> if we ship vacation, finger, and sharutils, we can also ship
> mandatory acess controls in the standard distribution :)
>
> As shipped, the Debian
On Sat, 7 Oct 2006 18:46:08 +0200, "Izak Burger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>On 10/7/06, Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Is there any potential breakage to allow adduser --force-badname to
>> create accounts with @ in user names?
>
>The only thing that immediately comes to mind is that of
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