On Sun, 17 Sep 2006, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Sep 17, Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I got the commands used by Andreas Metzler to extract packages in
sarge with files or directories in /var/run/, and ran the it on etch.
These are the 159 packages:
Not all of them are buggy, e.g
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2006, Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote:
> cons, and issues and difficulties... would it probably make sense to
> split the discussion about /var/x being able to be tmpfs'ed out and just
> choose another location for the intended place-to-store-things-while-
> nothing-else-is-mounted-rw?
Hi,
Currently, it sounds unrealistic to move the apt-listbugs
infrastructure back to Debian.org infrastructure. Which of the Debian
servers have almost-unlimited bandwidth for serving ? I'm seeking
information from those who are knowledgeable about Debian hosts.
Currently osdl.debian.or.jp serv
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 11:02:41PM +0200, Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote:
> Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Not all of them are buggy, e.g. ssh, inn and inn2 have the directory in
> > the package but also create it in the init script if needed.
>
> I would consider this a bug, when a pa
On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 the mental interface of
Russ Allbery told:
> Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > [Mario Holbe]
>
> >> So, as long as the Debian policy doesn't handle this,
>
> > I agree that we should update the policy to document this fact.
>
> It would be quite nice to hav
Hello.
I've updated gcc-4.1 documentation packages (Section: non-free/doc).
Packages are no longer debian-native, also several issues have been fixed.
Also, I've created gcc-doc-defaults package (Section: contrib/doc) that
builds gcc-doc, cpp-doc, gfortran-doc and treelang-doc packages with
pro
Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not all of them are buggy, e.g. ssh, inn and inn2 have the directory in
> the package but also create it in the init script if needed.
I would consider this a bug, when a package ships things which it
expects to magically disappear and where it thus cares
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 11:43:18AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Kurt Roeckx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I don't think policy changes need to be seconded. We have a policy team
> > that should decide on what comes in policy and what not. Although, it
> > more looks like it's just 1 person d
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 08:05:28PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> Le dim 17 septembre 2006 19:57, Pierre Habouzit a écrit :
> >
> > hmm, right. the thing is, the code has been rewriten for the most
> > part of it, so they are not tied with the turck-mmcache copyright
> > holders anymore (afaict).
Copying the debian-policy list, since this conversation is basically about
that.
Kurt Roeckx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I don't think policy changes need to be seconded. We have a policy team
> that should decide on what comes in policy and what not. Although, it
> more looks like it's just
Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> here is the link that explains that:
> http://archive.eaccelerator.net/OldNews
> and that has been achieved since, if I'm correct. so if this is just a
> matter of exception to be done to the GPL, I'm really sure we can work
> on it nicely.
>> so basically, what has to
Le dim 17 septembre 2006 19:57, Pierre Habouzit a écrit :
> Le dim 17 septembre 2006 19:35, Roberto C. Sanchez a écrit :
> > On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 06:07:57PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > > Le dim 17 septembre 2006 16:11, Pierre Habouzit a écrit :
> > > > Upstream Author : Name <[EMAIL PROT
Le dim 17 septembre 2006 19:35, Roberto C. Sanchez a écrit :
> On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 06:07:57PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > Le dim 17 septembre 2006 16:11, Pierre Habouzit a écrit :
> > > Upstream Author : Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > bah stupid template...
> >
> > reportbug should ba
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 09:55:46AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > [Mario Holbe]
>
> >> So, as long as the Debian policy doesn't handle this,
>
> > I agree that we should update the policy to document this fact.
>
> It would be quite nice to have
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 06:07:57PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> Le dim 17 septembre 2006 16:11, Pierre Habouzit a écrit :
> > Upstream Author : Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> bah stupid template...
>
> reportbug should barf when such things are forgotten :|
>
> anyway the package is in NEW, and
On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 06:54:05PM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote:
> The whole thing is grey territory in FHS, but still I tend to think
> that sysvinit should somehow preserve the (empty) directory structure
> of /var/run through reboots.
Definitely. When using chroots, it is not uncommon that som
Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [Mario Holbe]
>> So, as long as the Debian policy doesn't handle this,
> I agree that we should update the policy to document this fact.
It would be quite nice to have more people participating in the Policy
process in general. There are a fair
Am Sonntag 17 September 2006 14:39 schrieb Filippo Giunchedi:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> Owner: Filippo Giunchedi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> * Package name: bluez-gnome
> Version : 0.4
> Upstream Author : Marcel Holtmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * URL : http://blue
Le dim 17 septembre 2006 16:11, Pierre Habouzit a écrit :
> Upstream Author : Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
bah stupid template...
reportbug should barf when such things are forgotten :|
anyway the package is in NEW, and debian/copyright is ok
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Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Filippo Giunchedi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* Package name: bluez-gnome
Version : 0.4
Upstream Author : Marcel Holtmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://bluez.sf.net
* License : GPL
Programming Lang: C
Description :
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* Package name: eaccelerator
Version : 0.9.5~rc1
Upstream Author : Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.eaccelerator.net/
* License : GPL V2
Programming Lang: C
Description
On Thursday 14 September 2006 17:34, Michael Bellander wrote:
> Is there anybody that can start with openwebmail for debian again,
> Debian sarge unstable or something? I mean is there any chance to see an
> updated verison of openwebmail in debian again.
Do you know whether the RC bugs that lead
On Sep 17, Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I got the commands used by Andreas Metzler to extract packages in
> sarge with files or directories in /var/run/, and ran the it on etch.
> These are the 159 packages:
Not all of them are buggy, e.g. ssh, inn and inn2 have the directory i
On Sun, 2006-09-17 at 09:46 +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Nobuhiro Iwamatsu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.09.17.0559 +0200]:
> > * Package name: btsco
>
> Please coordinate with Kel and Russell (on CC), who have been
> working on this package for a while. One of the reasons that we h
Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A good hint for such cases is to actually report such bugs to the driver
> developers. Did you?
It's still in my reproduction and analysis-queue. However, 2.6 is not
my biggest priority atm (it will still take a while to get it stable
anyways :)).
> Y
[Petter Reinholdtsen]
> Here is the list of packages in sarge with directories in /var/run/,
> according to the file on merkel:
I got the commands used by Andreas Metzler to extract packages in
sarge with files or directories in /var/run/, and ran the it on etch.
These are the 159 packages:
an
Am Sonntag 17 September 2006 12:28 schrieb Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe:
> However, as long
> as I can easily freeze my machine just by doing really simple disk-I/O
> tasks (which just happened when I had a need to boot into a Knoppix),
> I will definitely not consider it to run on my servers.
A good h
Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> Well, if there are really packages that demand on 2.6, they just can
> depend on kernel-image-2.6, this is no problem at all.
[...]
No, they cannot. Kernel version requirements cannot be expressed in
package dependencies because
a) You can
Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The problem with supporting old kernels is not just the need to maintain
2.4 is not old, it's just stable :)
> a few packages like initrd-tools or modutils, but that every important
> package cannot rely on features of modern kernels: inotify, sysfs, etc.
[Mario Holbe]
> Is it?
Yes, mounting tmpfs on /var/run/ and /var/lock/ is supposed to work,
and packages not handling it need to be fixed. And as you can see in
/etc/init.d/, quite a few packages got this right already. A few got
still it haven't been adjusted to work like that, and we should ge
On Sep 17, Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It does make a case for keeping a package like initrd-tools around though.
The problem with supporting old kernels is not just the need to maintain
a few packages like initrd-tools or modutils, but that every important
package cannot rely on featur
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 11:02:16AM +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
> > Why is this a native Debian package? I know that the tarball it is based
> > on is not one distributed as such by upstream, but it is based on files
> > from an upstream source. The way you do it now, you can't see what you
On Sunday 17 September 2006 11:23, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 11:10:33AM +0200, Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote:
> > Relying on 2.6-only features for this is IMHO a no-go. 2.2 as well as
> > 2.4 are maintained kernel-trees and just because the kernel-team
> > seems to like to liv
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It is clear /to me/ from the juxtaposition of these two sentences that the
> FHS intends for programs to be allowed to create such subdirectories without
> them being removed at the beginning of the boot process. It is also clear
Well, it would then pro
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 11:10:33AM +0200, Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote:
> > are checked and mounted. (I do not know how they are going to handle
> > the fact that /var/run is needed before /var is mounted, mount --move
> > requires kernel 2.6 afaict.)
> Relying on 2.6-only features for this is IM
Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It has been pointed out to me in http://bugs.debian.org/387699
> that syvinit is going to move /var/run to a tmpfs to solve a long-standing
Yes, having the opportunity to mount /var/run on a tmpfs would be really
nice. Please consider the same for /var
Hi ,
On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 09:46:04 +0200
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thank you for your news.
I did not know other people were working.
> Please coordinate with Kel and Russell (on CC), who have been
> working on this package for a while. One of the reasons that we have
> not rel
Hi Nobuhiro,
On Sunday 17 September 2006 17:46, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Nobuhiro Iwamatsu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.09.17.0559 +0200]:
> > * Package name: btsco
>
> Please coordinate with Kel and Russell (on CC), who have been
> working on this package for a while. One of the reas
also sprach Nobuhiro Iwamatsu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.09.17.0559 +0200]:
> * Package name: btsco
Please coordinate with Kel and Russell (on CC), who have been
working on this package for a while. One of the reasons that we have
not released it yet is because we want to make btsco a daemon th
In gmane.linux.debian.devel.general Kurt Roeckx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyway, it would be useful if you didn't have to login on merkel to be
> able to see your list. I suggest you either submit those files to the
> BTS, or put it on people.debian.org or something.
http://people.debian.org/
> On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 12:06:02AM +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
> > I've created gcc-4.1-doc-non-dfsg package, intended for non-free. This
> > package builds several binary packages (cpp-4.1-doc, gcc-4.1-doc,
> > gfortran-4.1-doc, tree;ang-4.1-doc), that contain all files - man
> > pages,
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