Daniel Schepler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> According to the GPL, section 0:
>
> The act of running the Program is not restricted...
>
> And since dynamic linking is done at the time the program is run, this would
> appear to me to be what applies. In particular, it appears to me that you
>
la, 2006-08-12 kello 15:59 +1000, Brian May kirjoitti:
> Are there any Debian packages of 0.9rc1 available?
http://packages.debian.org/unstable/devel/bzr says 0.9~rc1-1.
(Lookup time: about ten seconds. :)
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> "Robert" == Robert Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Robert> On Sun, 2006-08-06 at 12:01 +1000, Brian May wrote:
>> Curiously though, the problems continue even after the archive
>> appears to be converted successfully - if I do a diff
>> operation, it reports all files as
> "Roberto" == Roberto C Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Roberto> However, the cyrus init script is called
Roberto> /etc/init.d/cyrus21, the courier init script is
Roberto> /etc/init.d/courier-imap and the dovecot init script is
Roberto> /etc/init.d/dovecot. It would seem
On Friday 11 August 2006 18:10 pm, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> I believe that the totaly interchangable option of specifying
> "-static" or not should not change the free-ness of the source or
> resulting binary. So if you link static and you agree that it is a
> violation that way then you shoul
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 23:25:52 +0200, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Hubert Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> No, but the combined work (A+B) (i.e. a binary produced by linking
>> module A with module B) is a "work based on" A, and hence (A+B) must
>> be distributable under the terms o
Hi,
On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 07:04:51PM -0400, Edward Allcutt wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-08-11 at 23:55 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote:
Your discussion is off-topic for debian-devel, please kindly take it
elsewhere.
Thanks,
Michael
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"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Except that the final comparison ignores that the number was to the
> right of the decimal, making the zero significant.
A '.' character in a version string isn't a decimal point. The
prevalence of versions strings containing more than one '.' ch
Hi,
* martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-08-12 00:50]:
> also sprach Nico Golde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.11.2302 +0100]:
> > today I searched for a specific DSA and its really pain if
> > you just know the package but no DSA number (correct me if I missed
> > something).
>
> http://ww
also sprach Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.11.2326 +0100]:
> The algorithm used is 2pass. First pass only mirrors pool while the
> second pass mirrors the Release and Packages files. The time a mirror
> is out of sync should always be limited to the time it takes to
> download th
On Fri, 2006-08-11 at 23:55 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Linking a GPLd program against a non-GPLd library does not make the library a
> derived work of the GPLd program.
but it does mean you may distribute the resulting binary only if you make the
library
source available under the GPL, and i
You did write:
...
>I have a general question about how the GPL is construed to cover the case of
>dynamic linking. According to the GPL, section 0:
...
I am sory to see that you did remove me from the Cc: list
you are the first person at Debian who starts to think the right
way...
If you
Amaya Rodrigo Sastre wrote:
> This program also shows soundwaves which makes it easier for
> subtitles synchronisation that most other subtitle editors like
> ksubtile or gaupol.
So, now that I read this aloud, is it "that" or "than" here?
Nah, the description
Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> reassign 377109 ftp.debian.org
> retitle 377109 RM: cdrtools -- RoM: non-free, license problems
> thanks
>
> Hi guys,
>
> ok well, as JS stays with an interpretation of CDDL and GPL that the
> whole world does not follow (all wrong, of course :) ), lets
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Failed to fetch
> http://ftp.ie.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
> MD5Sum mismatch
>
> I am seeing a lot of this stuff lately, and I've been told it's due
> to mirror syncs. As our archive grows bigger, the sync takes longer,
>
"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 01:29:40AM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote:
>> * Michael Biebl [Fri, 11 Aug 2006 01:12:59 +0200]:
>>
>> > that "dpkg --compare-versions '0.09' '=' '0.9'" yields true, which I
>> > think is rather odd, because it means that now
Daniel Schepler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Let's put aside for the moment that the FAQ is not meant to be a legal
> document as opposed to the GPL itself, and that the FAQ is not saying B would
> be a derived work of A, but rather that the combination would be...
>
> I have a general question
also sprach Nico Golde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.11.2302 +0100]:
> today I searched for a specific DSA and its really pain if
> you just know the package but no DSA number (correct me if I missed
> something).
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=dsa123+debian&btnG=Search
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Hi,
today I searched for a specific DSA and its really pain if
you just know the package but no DSA number (correct me if I missed
something).
What about a search field on [0]
to search the DSA database for past DSAs against a package?
The regular search on d.o is not able to find DSAs.
Kind rega
Hubert Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No, but the combined work (A+B) (i.e. a binary produced by linking
> module A with module B) is a "work based on" A, and hence (A+B) must be
> distributable under the terms of the GPL.
>
> Distributing the sources of A with the sources of B may be fine, bu
Bruce Sass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thu August 10 2006 10:16, martin f krafft wrote:
>> also sprach Goswin von Brederlow
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.10.1647 +0100]:
>> > How about allowing conffiles to list files that are generated at
>> > install time and are not included in the deb?
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> also sprach Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.10.1647 +0100]:
>> How about allowing conffiles to list files that are generated at
>> install time and are not included in the deb?
>
> You can, but then you run up against policy. You are
Jorg Schilling wrote:
[...]
> Sorry, but I do not believe people that put things into a GPL FAQ that
> are obviously wrong. Let me give a single example to avoid wasting too
> much time:
> The FSF GPL FAQ e.g. incorrectly claims:
> Linking ABC statically or dynamically with other modules
Alle Friday 11 August 2006 22:51, Joerg Jaspert ha scritto:
> reassign 377109 ftp.debian.org
> retitle 377109 RM: cdrtools -- RoM: non-free, license problems
> thanks
>
> Hi guys,
>
> ok well, as JS stays with an interpretation of CDDL and GPL that the
> whole world does not follow (all wrong, of c
In reply to a RFP, and with the idea of creating subtitles for the talks given
in Spanish during Debian Day at Debconf6, found at
http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2006/debconf6/theora-small/2006-05-13/tower/
I intend to package subtitleeditor.
* Package name: subtitleedi
On Friday 11 August 2006 14:48 pm, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> The FSF GPL FAQ e.g. incorrectly claims:
>
> Linking ABC statically or dynamically with other modules is making a
> combined work based on ABC. Thus, the terms and conditions of the GNU
> General Public License cover th
Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Eduard Bloch has absolutely no clue and on the other side implicitely
> > claims
> > in his arrogant habbit that he knows more about cdrtools than I do. This
> > makes
> > it impussoble to cooperate with him.
>
> You know that this is "Rufschädigun
Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 10743 March 1977, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
>
> > [1]
> > http://debian-meetings.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2006/debconf6/theora-small/2006-05-14/tower/OpenSolaris_Java_and_Debian-Simon_Phipps__Alvaro_Lopez_Ortega.ogg
>
> > [2]
> > http://debian-meeti
reassign 377109 ftp.debian.org
retitle 377109 RM: cdrtools -- RoM: non-free, license problems
thanks
Hi guys,
ok well, as JS stays with an interpretation of CDDL and GPL that the
whole world does not follow (all wrong, of course :) ), lets go and fix
this. The sane way is to remove cdrtools from
On 10743 March 1977, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> If we did agree on continuing the mail exchange on a private base, there
> youle be not problem, but unfortunately, you did send some lies in your mail
> that need to be corrected first
Yeah.
> Eduard Bloch has absolutely no clue and on the othe
Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
>
>>> It would be good to get rid of inetd from the basic install at all. Those
>> No, it would not. UNIX systems are supposed to have an inetd installed.
>
> I see no reason why *Debian* systems should have an ine
Hi Daniel,
I see you made a great job out of mantis. You are so enthusiastic that
I could not make you wait. There are still some issues that I want to
discuss with you (ie, the changelog should be improved).
But let's take this off-list and talk in private.
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Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 10742 March 1977, Joerg Schilling wrote:
>
> Reply-To and M-f-T set to my address, whoever answers please respect
> this and let this thread die on -devel, its the wrong medium for this
> discussion, thank you.
If we did agree on continuing the mail e
Hi again,
> No matter, if I will ever be on the right level, I WILL continue to
> try making contibutions. Please keep in mind, that I just want to
> contribute, and I do NOT intend to become the new maintainer for
> mantis. If there are people around, that can do this work in a better
> way, then
On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 06:35:42PM +0200, Marco Bertorello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> Owner: Marco Bertorello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> * Package name: furl
> Version : 2.1
> Upstream Author : Kidney Bingos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * URL
Hi!
* martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060811 13:22]:
> Shouldn't we switch to using/advocating a smarter algorithm like
> the one debmirror or anonftpsync use, which is to push new package
> files to the archive, then synchronise indices, then delete obsolete
> package files?
We used someth
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Marco Bertorello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* Package name: furl
Version : 2.1
Upstream Author : Kidney Bingos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.gumbynet.org.uk/software/furl.html
* License : GPL v2 (or later)
Programming
On 10743 March 1977, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> [1]
> http://debian-meetings.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2006/debconf6/theora-small/2006-05-14/tower/OpenSolaris_Java_and_Debian-Simon_Phipps__Alvaro_Lopez_Ortega.ogg
> [2]
> http://debian-meetings.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2006/debconf6/mpeg1
Brian May a écrit :
> So that probably would explain why I can no longer log in as root when
> the NSS LDAP server is down, even with LDAP PAM support disabled and
> files is listed before ldap in /etc/nsswitch.conf.
I run in a similar problem a few days ago.
I misconfigured /etc/nsswitch.conf by
Daniel Knabl wrote:
> If my "work" is welcome - as I hope - then I will try to go on with
> it. If it is NOT, or if it is of too low quality, then just ignore my
> tries.
The quality is not really a big issue here, it can be improved with
time. What I would like to see is some degree of commitme
On 10742 March 1977, Joerg Schilling wrote:
Reply-To and M-f-T set to my address, whoever answers please respect
this and let this thread die on -devel, its the wrong medium for this
discussion, thank you.
> I am sorry, but I cannot believe that you like to make serious proposal
> with the text y
Bruce Sass a écrit :
> I will be so bold as to suggest...
>
> Synopsis: update-package [options]
>
> update-package [options] --add-files=
> update-package [options] --remove-files=
> update-package [options] --size=
> update-package [options] --field=::
>
> Commands:
[...]
> Options:
> -
Am Fri, 11 Aug 2006 16:37:28 +0200 schrieb Daniel Knabl
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> The files:
>
> http://knabl.com/~daniel/mantis/mantis_0.19.4-4.0.diff.gz
> http://knabl.com/~daniel/mantis/mantis_0.19.4-4.0.dsc
> http://knabl.com/~daniel/mantis/mantis_0.19.4-4.0_all.deb
> http://knabl.com/~daniel/ma
Hi
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 16:37:28 +0200
Daniel Knabl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Once again, after I reviewed the "outstanding bugs" list, I intended
> to package the new upstream version of mantis and to fix some bugs,
> at least those I was able to ;)
0.19.4 is new upstream version? And what ha
Hi all!
Once again, after I reviewed the "outstanding bugs" list, I intended
to package the new upstream version of mantis and to fix some bugs,
at least those I was able to ;)
The files:
http://knabl.com/~daniel/mantis/mantis_0.19.4-4.0.diff.gz
http://knabl.com/~daniel/mantis/mantis_0.19.4-4.0.
Hello Rudi,
On Fri, 2006-08-11 at 15:35 +0200, Rudi Effe wrote:
> I just found an invitation for a debian-edu bug squashing party at
> central Germany [1]. As this is quite a distance from where I live, I
> probably won't make it myself - but will try to join the team via IRC
> (#debian-edu). N
Dear dd's,
I just found an invitation for a debian-edu bug squashing party at
central Germany [1]. As this is quite a distance from where I live, I
probably won't make it myself - but will try to join the team via IRC
(#debian-edu). Now I wonder, if there is more folks around who might be
joi
Michael Biebl writes ("dpkg doing wrong math (0.09 = 0.9) ?- [was: dak now
supports ~ in version numbers]"):
> Reading this announcement I thought, great and wanted to start using
> '~', only to discover that dpkg believes that 0.09+0.1.svn > 0.1~svn.
> 1.) Wait for a 0.10 release. I think my use
* Marco d'Itri ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Aug 11, Adam Borowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Why, for the love of Cthulhu, does netbase depend on inetd in the first
> > place? Let's see:
> Historical reasons.
Not good enough. Not even close.
> > It would be good to get rid of inetd from
also sprach Adam Borowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.11.1339 +0100]:
> 1.0.6
> 1.0.6a (a few hours later, with a brown-paper bug fixed)
> 1.0.7
This is totally okay in my book as the letter is at the end. :)
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On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 09:47:33AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Adam Borowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.11.0931 +0100]:
> > And another bug: "2a.0" is _lesser_ than "2.0"! This works as
> > documented, but is totally against lexicography, expectations and
> > common sense.
>
> I
also sprach martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.11.1222 +0100]:
> Shouldn't we switch to using/advocating a smarter algorithm like
> the one debmirror or anonftpsync use, which is to push new package
> files to the archive, then synchronise indices, then delete obsolete
> package files?
s
* Michael Biebl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060811 01:13]:
> If it's not a bug in dpkg, could someone please elaborate on the
> reasoning of this behaviour. I'd be grateful for any comments and replies.
That's because dpkg follows the most common versioning scheme:
The version after "0.9" is called "0.1
martin f krafft wrote:
also sprach peek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.11.1210 +0100]:
How is this really supposed to work? (And why does it say "Success"
when it exits with an error? Success at generating an error?)
Btw, I'm running Sarge.
log support was added to dpkg post-sarge
Failed to fetch
http://ftp.ie.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
MD5Sum mismatch
I am seeing a lot of this stuff lately, and I've been told it's due
to mirror syncs. As our archive grows bigger, the sync takes longer,
so this problem will happen more often in the future.
I w
also sprach peek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.11.1210 +0100]:
> How is this really supposed to work? (And why does it say "Success"
> when it exits with an error? Success at generating an error?)
>
> Btw, I'm running Sarge.
log support was added to dpkg post-sarge
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Hi all,
(I posted this to debian-user yesterday but got no bites. I'm hoping to
have more luck with the debian-devel group.)
From the Debian FAQ 8.5:
If you'd like to log all your dpkg invokations (even those done using
frontends like aptitude), you could add
log /var/log/dpkg.log
t
Bruce Sass writes ("Re: Silly Packaging Problem"):
> "files" and "size" accommodate the desire to include generated or
> packageless files and their size (if knowable) in the dpkg DB.
This is a bad idea. dpkg maintains these lists of files not primarily
for the purpose of dpkg -S, but rather for
On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 12:46:44AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> Now, let's see what depends on *-inetd:
> Depends:
> netbase
Hence, everything that wants an inetd can just Depend: on netbase, rather
than specifying it explicitly, so your list is incomplete:
> lukemftpd
> wipl-clien
ke, 2006-08-09 kello 10:21 +0300, Lars Wirzenius kirjoitti:
> While I wait to have time to do something better and more easily usable,
> the following page lists the logs of failed piuparts files that have not
> yet been processed:
>
> http://piuparts.cs.helsinki.fi/fail/
I made some more logs av
pe, 2006-08-11 kello 14:42 +1000, Brian May kirjoitti:
> Can the argument be made that these aren't packaging bugs but rather
> the fact the hostname hasn't been configured correctly?
Not only can that argument be made, but I would like to make it myself.
I'll fix the chroot piuparts uses so that
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
>> It would be good to get rid of inetd from the basic install at all. Those
> No, it would not. UNIX systems are supposed to have an inetd installed.
I see no reason why *Debian* systems should have an inetd installed
unless there is another package inst
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
> On Aug 10, Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> installed, all using the same configuration file. Is this a use
>> case we really want to support? Are there really setups running
>> multiple inetds for a good reason? Having a virtual
> A g
pe, 2006-08-11 kello 09:47 +0100, martin f krafft kirjoitti:
> also sprach Adam Borowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.11.0931 +0100]:
> > Uhm, where does the "0" come from? This is grossly unintuitive, and I would
> > consider this a bug. Both strings parse as follows:
> >
> > "1." => "", 1, ".
also sprach Adam Borowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.11.0931 +0100]:
> Uhm, where does the "0" come from? This is grossly unintuitive, and I would
> consider this a bug. Both strings parse as follows:
>
> "1." => "", 1, "."
> "1.0" => "", 1, ".", 0
actually, you forgot the trailing ""
> And
On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 02:59:16PM +1000, Brian May wrote:
> The second query is trying to find out all the groups root is in (is
> it possible to skip this???).
Only if you either remove ldap from the groups: line in nsswitch.conf,
or you do not use any programs that call initgroups()/getgrent()
On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 07:17:43AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> "." is not special as far as version numbers are concerned. It's not
> a separator, for instance, and "1." is a valid version number (which
> is equal to "1.0").
Uhm, where does the "0" come from? This is grossly unintuitive, and
Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "." is not special as far as version numbers are concerned. It's not
> a separator, for instance, and "1." is a valid version number (which
> is equal to "1.0").
That doesn't match my reading of Policy 5.6.12:
The strings are compared from left t
"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 02:21:04AM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> > * Roberto C. Sanchez [Thu, 10 Aug 2006 19:47:36 -0400]:
> >
> > > Except that the final comparison ignores that the number was to
> > > the right of the decimal, making the zero s
On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 08:30:45AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Michael Biebl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.11.0012 +0100]:
> > 1.) Wait for a 0.10 release. I think my users wouldn't be happy ;-)
>
> Why not continue to current versioning scheme until 0.10 is out to
> avoid the epoch
* Michael Biebl:
> So, what should I do now:
> 1.) Wait for a 0.10 release. I think my users wouldn't be happy ;-)
> 2.) Use an epoch.
> 3.) File a bug report against dpkg.
2) is the typical approach.
> If it's not a bug in dpkg, could someone please elaborate on the
> reasoning of this behaviou
also sprach Michael Biebl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.11.0012 +0100]:
> 1.) Wait for a 0.10 release. I think my users wouldn't be happy ;-)
Why not continue to current versioning scheme until 0.10 is out to
avoid the epoch?
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hi,
there's related thread on debian-devel mailing list, please look at "Etch
artwork" subject. There's also a cross posting message on
debian-qt-kde, debian-gtk-gnome and pkg-xfce-devel, look at "Debian sid and
etch artwork".
An entry on the wiki : http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDesktopArtwork
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested
through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the
last week.
Total number of orphaned packages: 319 (new: 0)
Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 84 (new: 3)
Total number of packages requeste
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