Re: Bruce Perens hosts party at OSCON Wednesday night

On Sat, Aug 06, 2005 at 07:38:47PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Thu, Aug 04, 2005 at 01:58:15PM -0300, Humberto Massa Guimar?es wrote: > > > And to boot, an e-mail calling for curriculae for a recruiting party > > is on-topic to a DEVELOPERS list > > No. This is why the debian-jobs list exi

Re: shared libraries dependecy problem.

[Grzegorz Bizon] > Linda complains that: > W: tleenx2; A binary links against a library that is not depended on. > (By the way - shoudn't it be error rather than warning ?) No, because it's sometimes hard to fix and often harmless. We don't like it but "error" is too strong. > I have checked bi

Re: Bug#358003: ITP: ttf-dzongkha -- TrueType fonts for Dzongkha language

Quoting Drew Parsons ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Package: wnpp > > Severity: wishlist > > Owner: Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > This package includes fonts that are suitable for the display of the > > Dzongkha > > language. > > > > May I suggest for rare languages like this t

Re: DPL Debate prepared questions list [Debian Policy Sucks]

(dropping -curiosathe raised issue is a real issue) > > which are known to work with Debian Stable? > > 5) etch beta 2 was released last week with support for your hardware I'm not sure that many people are seriously considering an etch beta to install as a client's firewall solution. The

Bug#358080: ITP: pygaim -- python plugin support for gaim

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Michael Spang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: pygaim Version : 1.5.0 * URL : http://pygaim.sf.net * License : GPL Description : python bindings and plugin loader for gaim PyGaim allows the Gaim Instance Messaging

Re: So we got caught, so what? But we did the right thing.

On 20 Mar 2006, Greg Conner told this: >> It must be SCO. They have cleverly disguised themselves as BYU >> students. :-) >> >> -Roberto > > So we got caught trying to br BYU students. You guys win that > battle. Not much of a battle. Y'all were pretty pathetic at forgery. But thank

Re: I like the new Release

Lol...if you're going to impersonate someone...sign up for a free php host and use Hee-Haw PHP mailer...it spoofs the email address and IP...;-) XDOn 3/20/06, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 20 Mar 2006, Greg Conner outgrape:>> It make be fake but is it a bad idea?  A release every

Re: I like the new Release

On 20 Mar 2006, Greg Conner outgrape: > > It make be fake but is it a bad idea? A release every year and > afterr a good summer of work? Does anybody have a better idea? Go for it. Good luck on that. Let us know how it goes. manoj -- VMS must die! Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PR

Re: Release Date Update

On 20 Mar 2006, Ron Johnson said: > Well, true. I confess to northernhemisphereoentrism. > > Still, even though Brazil, ANZ & South Africa are down under, the > vast bulk of the world population lives in the Northern Hemisphere. The premise is also weak. Man, in the summer, I want to be

Re: one binary package created by different source packages, will the old source package disappear?

On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 03:33:22PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > > If foo2 already exists, I'd still go for that solution, but you'll then > > need to ask for foo2 removal via a bug to ftp.debian.org. > That's not possible, I think, unfortunately - we don't want teTeX which > currently provides lib

Re: Release Date Update

On Mon, 2006-03-20 at 23:45 +, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 05:39:23PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Mon, 2006-03-20 at 23:15 +, Colin Watson wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 02:51:25PM -0800, Mark Shuttleworh wrote: > > > > > > (In case it wasn't clear, this wasn

Re: DPL Debate prepared questions list [Debian Policy Sucks]

Martin Michlmayr wrote: Anthony, do you still see this bug with 2.6.15 or (better yet) 2.6.16? (will be uploaded tomorrow). 2.6.15, yes. I'll check 2.6.16 when it hits unstable (I'm guessing, though I still need to test, that the ide-tape cleanup in 2.6.9 borked it) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, emai

So we got caught, so what? But we did the right thing.

It must be SCO. They have cleverly disguised themselves as BYU students. :-) -Roberto So we got caught trying to br BYU students. You guys win that battle. But you have to admit at least we care enough about Debian that we are willing to make suggestions. We don't want to offend anyone in

Re: DPL Debate prepared questions list [Debian Policy Sucks]

* Rui Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-03-21 01:02]: > Since debian is build thru volunteer, why don't you contribute whith > something... FWIW, kmuto-san has prepated sarge d-i images with a modern kernel: http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm And backports.org has modern kernels for sarge. --

Re: DPL Debate prepared questions list [Debian Policy Sucks]

UBUNTU realy works, and is stable. I've instaled it on a few servers now, and i'm quite happy with it.but my question is. Why don't you just build your own kernel from source. download the vannilla souces and do it. it's not that hard on debian. it's easier on gentoo, but in debian it's almost equa

Re: DPL Debate prepared questions list [Debian Policy Sucks]

* Anthony DeRobertis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-03-20 20:04]: > Hmmm, and 2.6.12 panics (bug #327355 ) > when I try and use the tape drive on my machine. New versions not only Anthony, do you still see this bug with 2.6.15 or (better yet) 2.6.16? (will be uploaded tomorr

Re: DPL Debate prepared questions list [Debian Policy Sucks]

Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote: Now, there was a known issue with those cards with e1000 driver upto kernel 2.6.11, IIRC. Hmmm, and 2.6.12 panics (bug #327355 ) when I try and use the tape drive on my machine. New versions not only fix bugs, but introduce new ones, too.

Re: e1000 support in Debian [Was: Re: DPL Debate prepared questions list [Debian Policy Sucks]]

On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 01:01:28AM +0100, Olaf van der Spek wrote: > On 3/20/06, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 03:39:45PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > > > Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote: > > > > So what do you people suggest in such cases: > > > > 1) Intel 1000MT NIC s

Re: DPL Debate prepared questions list [Debian Policy Sucks]

On 20 Mar 2006, Ritesh Raj Sarraf said this: > So what do you people suggest in such cases: > 1) Intel 1000MT NIC sucks, throw it away ? > 2) Unh! Why don't you change to Debian Unstable ? > 3) Buddy! We are all volunteers. Go and roll your own kernel with >the > patches ? > 4) Wait! That hard

Re: I like the new Release

Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker wrote: > "Greg Conner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>It make be fake but is it a bad idea? A release every year and afterr a >>good summer of work? Does anybody have a better idea? > > > FWIW: According to the headers, this mail is sent from the same machine > as

Re: e1000 support in Debian [Was: Re: DPL Debate prepared questions list [Debian Policy Sucks]]

On 3/20/06, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 03:39:45PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > > Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote: > > > So what do you people suggest in such cases: > > > 1) Intel 1000MT NIC sucks, throw it away ? > > > 2) Unh! Why don't you change to Debian Unstable ?

Re: I like the new Release

"Greg Conner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It make be fake but is it a bad idea? A release every year and afterr a > good summer of work? Does anybody have a better idea? FWIW: According to the headers, this mail is sent from the same machine as the original fake. -- ilmari -- To UNSUBSCR

Re: automatically install -dev packages

On 20-Mar-06, 14:37 (CST), David Griffith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there a setting somewhere I can set to cause apt-get and aptitude to > always install corresponding -dev packages? The default behavior of not > installing them is particularly annoying when dealing with libraries that > ar

Re: Release Date Update

On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 05:39:23PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Mon, 2006-03-20 at 23:15 +, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 02:51:25PM -0800, Mark Shuttleworh wrote: > > > > (In case it wasn't clear, this wasn't Mark Shuttlewor*t*h posting. > > Please don't feed the troll.) >

Re: Release Date Update

On Mon, 2006-03-20 at 23:15 +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 02:51:25PM -0800, Mark Shuttleworh wrote: > > (In case it wasn't clear, this wasn't Mark Shuttlewor*t*h posting. > Please don't feed the troll.) Even so, are his points valid? -- ---

I like the new Release

It make be fake but is it a bad idea? A release every year and afterr a good summer of work? Does anybody have a better idea? _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeeve

Re: Release Date Update

someone claiming to be Mark Shuttleworh wrote: > Guys, you know putting the first freeze date before the end of the summer > is foolish. Many people do their best coding during the summer. Nice troll, but you need to work on your headers. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital sign

Re: Release Date Update

On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 02:51:25PM -0800, Mark Shuttleworh wrote: (In case it wasn't clear, this wasn't Mark Shuttlewor*t*h posting. Please don't feed the troll.) -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subje

Re: DPL Debate prepared questions list [Debian Policy Sucks]

* Ritesh Raj Sarraf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060320 22:14]: > RHEL and SLES do a damn good job of Hardware Bug Fixing and Feature > Enhancement for the software they ship. > > Why can't we do it ? Is it just because our policy doesn't allow it ? > Can't we revise the policy ? Of course policies can

Re: Release Date Update

On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 02:51:25PM -0800, Mark Shuttleworh wrote: [...] Before anybody gets to reply to the body, this is a fake. Mark Shuttleworth doesn't use a hotmail adress to send mail to lists. YHBT, HAND, Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubsc

Re: DPL Debate prepared questions list [Debian Policy Sucks]

On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 02:43:38 +0530, Ritesh wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tuesday 21 March 2006 02:09, Joey Hess wrote: > > Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote: > > > So what do you people suggest in such cases: > > > 1) Intel 1000MT NIC sucks, throw it away ? > > > 2) Unh! Why don't you change t

Release Date Update

Guys, you know putting the first freeze date before the end of the summer is foolish. Many people do their best coding during the summer. Debian should make sure The freeze begins after a whole summer of good coding and adding new features, like at the end of August or the begginnig of Septem

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 05:41:26PM -0300, Daniel Ruoso wrote: > Em S?b, 2006-03-18 ?s 23:17 +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov escreveu: > > Yes. However, I think that 'setting up buildd' is the least difficult > > of those tasks. It is by far more difficult to produce patches for all > > 'standard debian pack

Re: DPL Debate prepared questions list [Debian Policy Sucks]

On Tue, 21 Mar 2006, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote: > On Tuesday 21 March 2006 02:09, Joey Hess wrote: > > 5) etch beta 2 was released last week with support for your > > hardware > > But there might have been many Debian Users who might have > discovered this issue earlier. What choice are they given ?

Re: shared libraries dependecy problem.

Grzegorz Bizon wrote: > Hi. > > I have problem with dependecies on shared libraries in my package > (tleenx2). > Linda complains that: > W: tleenx2; A binary links against a library that is not depended on. > (By the way - shoudn't it be error rather than warning ?) > Linda seems to be doing th

Re: DPL Debate prepared questions list [Debian Policy Sucks]

On Mar 20, Ritesh Raj Sarraf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So what do you people suggest in such cases: If you need a distribution which supports modern hardware, then you should switch to Ubuntu. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: cross-compiling Debian packages

> I hope that my patches (#357629, #357658 > , #357661 > ) are proper enough:-) This is incomplete: not only libgcc does not provide -dcv1, but libstdc++ and -dev and -dbg. Would you be so kind to post undeted patches

Re: DPL Debate prepared questions list [Debian Policy Sucks]

On Tuesday 21 March 2006 02:09, Joey Hess wrote: > Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote: > > So what do you people suggest in such cases: > > 1) Intel 1000MT NIC sucks, throw it away ? > > 2) Unh! Why don't you change to Debian Unstable ? > > 3) Buddy! We are all volunteers. Go and roll your own kernel with the

automatically install -dev packages

Is there a setting somewhere I can set to cause apt-get and aptitude to always install corresponding -dev packages? The default behavior of not installing them is particularly annoying when dealing with libraries that are installed when the OS itself is installed. -- David Griffith [EMAIL PROTE

e1000 support in Debian [Was: Re: DPL Debate prepared questions list [Debian Policy Sucks]]

On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 03:39:45PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote: > > So what do you people suggest in such cases: > > 1) Intel 1000MT NIC sucks, throw it away ? > > 2) Unh! Why don't you change to Debian Unstable ? > > 3) Buddy! We are all volunteers. Go and roll your own kerne

Re: dicussion about patches ... ignoring patches make motivation toprovide them fall

Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: So yes, I believe we need to work on the long-term "ignored" bugs. :) Those are essentially all I work on. It's a good thing I have a thick skin. Some maintainers are genuinely grateful for the assistance, and they're a pleasure to work with. (This includes the X

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

Em Sáb, 2006-03-18 às 23:17 +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov escreveu: > Yes. However, I think that 'setting up buildd' is the least difficult > of those tasks. It is by far more difficult to produce patches for all > 'standard debian packages' that make them first of all, cross-compile > correctly, and (onl

Re: DPL Debate prepared questions list [Debian Policy Sucks]

Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote: > So what do you people suggest in such cases: > 1) Intel 1000MT NIC sucks, throw it away ? > 2) Unh! Why don't you change to Debian Unstable ? > 3) Buddy! We are all volunteers. Go and roll your own kernel with the > patches ? > 4) Wait! That hardware isn't officially sup

Re: shared libraries dependecy problem.

On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 03:59:04PM +0100, Grzegorz Bizon wrote: > I have problem with dependecies on shared libraries in my package > (tleenx2). > Linda complains that: > W: tleenx2; A binary links against a library that is not depended on. > (By the way - shoudn't it be error rather than warning

Re: Bug#358003: ITP: ttf-dzongkha -- TrueType fonts for Dzongkha language

> Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > This package includes fonts that are suitable for the display of the Dzongkha > language. > May I suggest for rare languages like this that you also mention in the description where the language comes fr

Re: DPL Debate prepared questions list [Debian Policy Sucks]

On Tuesday 21 March 2006 00:08, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > On Saturday 18 March 2006 17:32, Roland Mas wrote: > > Thaddeus H. Black, 2006-03-18 16:00:11 +0100 : > > > It appears that to have a Enterprise Grade Debian Distribution, we > > > need a SPOC [ed.: Single Point of Contact?] team which can

Question about cdrecord developement

Hi, I've been trying to retrieve from a cdrom as much vendor's info as possible. Thanks of cdrecord source code I can retrieve some of it. However, and although I've been looking where to ask (including any related mailing list within the debian project), haven't seen it. I just wanted to ask wh

Re: First AMD64 Binary Uploaded

* Goswin von Brederlow: >>> Anything that runs from current amd64.debian.net or its mirrors. >> >> Both debian-amd64 and debian-pure64? Great, thanks. > > They are just aliases for the same thing since always. Oh, this wasn't clear from the FAQ. Fortunately, all this is now OBE. -- To UNSUBS

Re: Bug#349693: ITP: gst-fluendo-mp3 -- MP3 decoder plugin for GStreamer

* Russell Coker: > This factor makes it significantly different from the other programs > which are afflicted with patent claims. If Thomson has made clear > statements about a common use case of software based on their > patents in Debian then it's quite different to a battle between > Adobe and

Re: Bug#349693: ITP: gst-fluendo-mp3 -- MP3 decoder plugin for GStreamer

* Josselin Mouette: >> There is no difference between decoders and encoders. Both require >> patent licenses. > > But as I understand it, only the encoding patents are enforceable. I've never seen a compelling argument why this should be the case. The arguments looked more or less like wishful t

Bug#358009: ITP: rcov -- a code coverage tool for Ruby

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ari Pollak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: rcov Version : 0.2.0 Upstream Author : Mauricio Fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://eigenclass.org/hiki.rb?rcov * License : Dual GPL/Ruby license, includes a modified

Bug#358003: ITP: ttf-dzongkha -- TrueType fonts for Dzongkha language

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: ttf-dzongkha Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Chris Fynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=115503 * License : GPL Descr

Re: dicussion about patches ... ignoring patches make motivation to provide them fall

On Monday 20 March 2006 16:04, Thomas Hood wrote: > It might not be so simple. Suppose I have taken it upon myself to push > change Foo through Debian. The Foo project requires cooperation from > several DDs and at the beginning I can't tell whether I will get that > cooperation from all of them.

Re: library for imap (client)

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 14:33:30 +0100 Bas Zoetekouw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Michelle! > > You wrote: > > > Currently I am starting a new project and want to know, if someone > > know the existence if an imapclient library for C programing? > > I do not realy want to reinvent the wheel. > >

Re: library for imap (client)

Am 2006-03-20 14:33:30, schrieb Bas Zoetekouw: > Hi Michelle! > I've used libetpan[1] in the past for some small projects. It's rather > nice, as it has a single abstract interface to pop, imap, maildir, mbox, > etc. I don't know how well it scales to large mail collections, though. > > [1] htt

Re: dicussion about patches ... ignoring patches make motivation to provide them fall

Russ Allbery wrote: > Whenever this topic comes up on debian-devel, the conversation seems to > focus on the small minority of maintainers who don't respond to bugs, are > still active on their packages, resist any attempt at co-maintainership, > and can't be dealt with through the MIA process. Y

Bug "last active" indicator?

I am wondering if it would be possible to modify the code for bugs.debian.org to show one additional bit of information. The last item of information shown for a bug summary on a b.d.o page is the age of the bug (that is, how long it has been since the bug was first opened). Would it be possible

shared libraries dependecy problem.

Hi. I have problem with dependecies on shared libraries in my package (tleenx2). Linda complains that: W: tleenx2; A binary links against a library that is not depended on. (By the way - shoudn't it be error rather than warning ?) I have checked binary with objdump and ldd and i got ... simillar b

Re: one binary package created by different source packages, will the old source package disappear?

Jeroen van Wolffelaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > N.B.: Such questions are easier to answer (less guessing needed w.r.t. > missing information) given a real example. I've noticed that. I thought it was a simple question regarding the infrastructure setup, but it turns out not to be... "foo" in

Re: library for imap (client)

Hi Michelle! You wrote: > Currently I am starting a new project and want to know, if someone > know the existence if an imapclient library for C programing? > I do not realy want to reinvent the wheel. I've used libetpan[1] in the past for some small projects. It's rather nice, as it has a sing

Re: one binary package created by different source packages, will the old source package disappear?

On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 12:03:13PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > Hi, > > assume the following scenario: > > - Source package foo creates binary packages libfoo1 and libfoo-dev > - source package foo2 creates binary packages libfoo2 and libfoo2-dev > > Since both versions are API-compatible, libfo

Re: one binary package created by different source packages, will the old source package disappear?

Scripsit Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > - Source package foo creates binary packages libfoo1 and libfoo-dev > - source package foo2 creates binary packages libfoo2 and libfoo2-dev > Since both versions are API-compatible, libfoo2-dev is renamed to > foo-dev, replacing the old binary package f

Re: library for imap (client)

On 18-Mar-06, 08:49 (CST), Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Currently I am starting a new project and want to know, if someone > know the existence if an imapclient library for C programing? Michelle, please meet http://www.google.com. Google, meet Michelle. Steve -- Steve Greenla

Re: library for imap (client)

On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 03:49:07PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Currently I am starting a new project and want to know, if someone > know the existence if an imapclient library for C programing? > libc-client with some limitations... -- Francesco P. Lovergine -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [

library for imap (client)

Hello *, Currently I am starting a new project and want to know, if someone know the existence if an imapclient library for C programing? I do not realy want to reinvent the wheel. Or should I "steal" the routines from other IMAP clients? Greetings Michelle Konzack -- Linux-User #280138

Re: one binary package created by different source packages, will the old source package disappear?

On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 12:03:13PM +0100, Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > assume the following scenario: > > - Source package foo creates binary packages libfoo1 and libfoo-dev > - source package foo2 creates binary packages libfoo2 and libfoo2-dev > > Since both versions are

one binary package created by different source packages, will the old source package disappear?

Hi, assume the following scenario: - Source package foo creates binary packages libfoo1 and libfoo-dev - source package foo2 creates binary packages libfoo2 and libfoo2-dev Since both versions are API-compatible, libfoo2-dev is renamed to foo-dev, replacing the old binary package from source pac

Re: The problem with killfiles, and other musings [Was: Re: removal of svenl from the project]

On Sun, Mar 19, 2006 at 12:28:14PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > I was going to make a large answer where i was going to denouse the > inexactitudes and false claims of this clearly inflamatory mail, but i will > refrain from doing so. > I wonder if Steve, and others of the 'esteemed' DDs, is follo

Bug#357927: ITP: freepbx -- web based management tool for asterisk, replacement for amp

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stephen Birch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: freepbx Version : 2.0.1 Upstream Author : jason_d_becker, rcourtna, tcourtna, etc * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/amportal/ * License : GPS Description : web