Re: How to identify distro, lsb-release is broken

2006-02-23 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Carlos C Soto wrote: > Does ubuntu has a /etc/ubuntu_version ? yes, it reads 'testing/unstable' for all past releases. Greetings, Reinhard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Work-needing packages report for Feb 24, 2006

2006-02-23 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 234 (new: 21) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 90 (new: 2) Total number of packages request

Re: How to identify distro, lsb-release is broken

2006-02-23 Thread Carlos C Soto
Stephen Birch wrote: Hi I need to find a way of identifying the name of an installed distrobution. This mechanism should be able to differentiate woody sarge etch sid hoary breezy dapper How about to check/grep/process /etc/debian_version installed by base-files? $ cat /etc/debian_version tes

On binary compatibility

2006-02-23 Thread Michael Gilbert
I've read a lot about the binary incompatibility concern between Debian and Ubuntu. I have an idea, but I don't have the skill to implement it myself. I figured it would be useful to throw it out there for you all to scrutinize, determine the implementation feasibility, and perhaps run with. Fir

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-02-23 Thread Adam McKenna
On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 01:30:25PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Help me out then. You seemed to suggest that not putting ndiswrapper > in main would be to "ignore rules that are very clearly laid out in > the SC and DFSG." I suggested that the CTTE overriding the developer's judgement in t

Re: May a package assume that builds are performed with root-like rights?

2006-02-23 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Frank Küster] > Because: > > , Policy 4.8 > | The build target must not do anything that might require root privilege. > ` Right, but the 'binary' target is run as root. , Policy 4.8 | The `fakeroot' package often allows one to build a package correctly | even without being root.

Bug#354176: RFH: cvs -- Concurrent Versions System

2006-02-23 Thread Steve McIntyre
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2002-01-30 Severity: wishlist cvs is a commonly-used (still) source control system. It has a large number of users and quite a large number of bugs to match. I've not had enough time to adequately work on cvs lately, and if anything that's only going to get wor

Bug#354174: RFH: nas -- The Network Audio System

2006-02-23 Thread Steve McIntyre
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2006-02-23 Severity: normal I've not used nas in quite a while, and due to other commitments I'm not going to have too much time for it in the near future. More background: * the nas source package builds several binary packages * currently 5 open bugs * u

Prelimary Debian Packages

2006-02-23 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, As promised, I worked on packaging XaraLX for debian. I have put a simple package for debian unstable on http://people.debian.org/~nomeata/xaralx/xaralx_0.svn20060223-1_i386.deb Please not that the source package is not yet available, as the source is not yet released. Please report non-pack

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-02-23 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 05:55:01PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: >> Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > As far as the second statement being the reason that most of us want >> > ndiswrapper in main, that may be true, but it is no excuse

Bug#354159: ITP: libgetopt-euclid-perl -- Executable Uniform Command-Line Interface Descriptions

2006-02-23 Thread Niko Tyni
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Niko Tyni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libgetopt-euclid-perl Version : 0.0.5 Upstream Author : Damian Conway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://mirrors.kernel.org/CPAN/modules/by-module/Getopt/Getopt-Euclid-v0.0.5.tar.gz *

Your Television website

2006-02-23 Thread Televisions Mart
Hi, I manage a website called televisionsmart.com and I think your site would be of interest to the visitors that regularly browse my site. I have gone ahead and given you a link plus a description of your site from my page at http://televisionsmart.com/internettv and I'm just contacting you to c

Re: sysklogd -17.1 NMU build broken in mips/mipsel

2006-02-23 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 11:55:12AM +, Thiemo Seufer wrote: > > $ dpkg -c > > l/linux-kernel-headers/linux-kernel-headers_2.6.13+0rc3-2_mips.deb |grep > > cpu-feature > > -rw-r--r-- root/root 4858 2005-07-12 21:46:46 > > ./usr/include/asm/cpu-features.h > > -rw-r--r-- root/root 41

Bug#354156: ITP: libsmart-comments-perl -- comments that do more than just sit there

2006-02-23 Thread Niko Tyni
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Niko Tyni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libsmart-comments-perl Version : 1.0.2 Upstream Author : Damian Conway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://mirrors.kernel.org/CPAN/modules/by-authors/id/DCONWAY/Smart-Comments-v1.0.2.t

Re: sysklogd -17.1 NMU build broken in mips/mipsel

2006-02-23 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Bastian Blank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-02-23 19:13]: > > So far so good, but why is it allowed for a kernel header to > > include a file that does not exist? > mips is not managed in the tree of linus. So it is likely that it > regulary breaks. Actually, there has been lots of syncing going on

Re: sysklogd -17.1 NMU build broken in mips/mipsel

2006-02-23 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 03:00:19PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > So far so good, but why is it allowed for a kernel header to include a file > > that does not exist? > > mips is not managed in the tree of linus. So it is likely that it >

Re: sysklogd -17.1 NMU build broken in mips/mipsel

2006-02-23 Thread Bastian Blank
On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 03:00:19PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > So far so good, but why is it allowed for a kernel header to include a file > that does not exist? mips is not managed in the tree of linus. So it is likely that it regulary breaks. Bastian -- I'm a soldier, not a di

Re: sysklogd -17.1 NMU build broken in mips/mipsel

2006-02-23 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 11:55:12AM +, Thiemo Seufer wrote: > > It is probably (also?) a sysklogd bug, userland code isn't supposed to > > use the kernel's atomic operations. > > It is only a sysklogd bug. Userland code is not allowed to use kernel >

Re: May a package assume that builds are performed with root-like rights?

2006-02-23 Thread Frank Küster
Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Daniel Schepler wrote: >> Here's a thought: how hard would it be to make TeX fall back to caching in a >> directory under the user's home directory (maybe $HOME/.fonts/texmf or so) >> if >> it can't write to /var/cache/fonts? pbuilder does have $HOM

Re: Problems found by piuparts

2006-02-23 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, Frank Küster wrote: > Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Frank Küster wrote: > >> Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > Correct, so one would put in foo.postrm: > >> > > >> > rmdir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty /usr/local/lib/foo > >>

Re: May a package assume that builds are performed with root-like rights?

2006-02-23 Thread Frank Küster
Daniel Schepler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's a thought: how hard would it be to make TeX fall back to caching in a > directory under the user's home directory (maybe $HOME/.fonts/texmf or so) if > it can't write to /var/cache/fonts? It would be extremely hard (at least 5 different shell

Re: May a package assume that builds are performed with root-like rights?

2006-02-23 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Daniel Schepler wrote: > Here's a thought: how hard would it be to make TeX fall back to caching in a > directory under the user's home directory (maybe $HOME/.fonts/texmf or so) if > it can't write to /var/cache/fonts? pbuilder does have $HOME set up to work > all right with BUILDUSER{ID,NAME}

Re: Problems found by piuparts

2006-02-23 Thread Frank Küster
Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Frank Küster wrote: >> Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Correct, so one would put in foo.postrm: >> > >> > rmdir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty /usr/local/lib/foo >> >> That's not sufficient, because /usr/local may be

Re: Bug#325306: ITP: root -- An object oriented data analysis framework

2006-02-23 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Christian Holm Christensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.02.23.1721 +0100]: > > also sprach Christian Holm Christensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.02.23.1555 > > +0100]: > > What happened to Zaratustra? He's sitting up on the pole still. > > But it's an established software name. Maybe

Re: Problems found by piuparts

2006-02-23 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Frank Küster wrote: > Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Correct, so one would put in foo.postrm: > > > > rmdir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty /usr/local/lib/foo > > That's not sufficient, because /usr/local may be mounted ro, and > therefore the command may fail e

Re: Bug#325306: ITP: root -- An object oriented data analysis framework

2006-02-23 Thread Christian Holm Christensen
Hi Martin, On Thu, 2006-02-23 at 16:37 +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Christian Holm Christensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.02.23.1555 > +0100]: What happened to Zaratustra? > > I intent to package this software for Debian. > > I think the package name is a little too broad. I

Re: May a package assume that builds are performed with root-like rights?

2006-02-23 Thread Daniel Schepler
Le Jeudi 23 Février 2006 17:20, Frank Küster a écrit : > > For example, I just tried running pbuilder on > > make_3.80+3.81.b4-1.dsc again, which does create some fonts during the > > build, and the build completes fine, except that I get error messages > > like kpathsea: Running mktexpk --mfmode l

Re: May a package assume that builds are performed with root-like rights?

2006-02-23 Thread Frank Küster
Simon Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Frank Küster wrote: > >> In short: May a package assume that package builds are performed with >> root-like rights, and thus use non-world-writable directories for >> caching purposes? > > Absolutely not. ...because? Because: , Policy 4.8

Re: May a package assume that builds are performed with root-like rights?

2006-02-23 Thread Frank Küster
Daniel Schepler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le Jeudi 23 Février 2006 16:37, Frank Küster a écrit : >> So the current state is: If pbuilder runs all commands inside the >> chroot, everything is fine, and AFAIK the same is true for the buildds. >> But if you su to some user in the chroot, near to

Re: May a package assume that builds are performed with root-like rights?

2006-02-23 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, Frank Küster wrote: In short: May a package assume that package builds are performed with root-like rights, and thus use non-world-writable directories for caching purposes? Absolutely not. The only assumption you may make is that the binary* targets are called in a way that allows chown

Re: May a package assume that builds are performed with root-like rights? (was: jadetex: FTBFS: mktexdir failed)

2006-02-23 Thread Daniel Schepler
Le Jeudi 23 Février 2006 16:37, Frank Küster a écrit : > So the current state is: If pbuilder runs all commands inside the > chroot, everything is fine, and AFAIK the same is true for the buildds. > But if you su to some user in the chroot, near to every package that > Build-depends on tetex-bin w

May a package assume that builds are performed with root-like rights? (was: jadetex: FTBFS: mktexdir failed)

2006-02-23 Thread Frank Küster
reassing 354113 tex-common thanks I think this problem is of general interest, or at least I don't feel we (the TeX Task Force) cannot decide this on our own. In short: May a package assume that package builds are performed with root-like rights, and thus use non-world-writable directories for ca

Re: ITP: root -- An object oriented data analysis framework

2006-02-23 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Christian Holm Christensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.02.23.1555 +0100]: > I intent to package this software for Debian. I think the package name is a little too broad. We already have three roots on Unix: / and the UID/GID 0. But it's an established software name. Maybe consider cer

ITP: root -- An object oriented data analysis framework

2006-02-23 Thread Christian Holm Christensen
Followup-For: Bug #325306 Package: wnpp Owner: Christian Holm Christensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I intent to package this software for Debian. The license of ROOT has recently been changed from a DFSG non-free license, to the GNU LGPL. An apt-get repository exists at deb http://mirror.phy.bn

Re: Bug#353917: ITP: lanmap -- lanmap sits quietly on a network and builds a picture of what it sees.

2006-02-23 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 04:11:40PM -0800, Sebastien Delafond wrote: > > Should the similarities between PADS and lanmap prevent the latter > from being packaged for Debian ? I understand they both rely on Of course not! > passive network monitoring to produce info, but I still don't see that > a

Re: sysklogd -17.1 NMU build broken in mips/mipsel

2006-02-23 Thread Bastian Blank
On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 11:55:12AM +, Thiemo Seufer wrote: > It is probably (also?) a sysklogd bug, userland code isn't supposed to > use the kernel's atomic operations. It is only a sysklogd bug. Userland code is not allowed to use kernel headers directly. Bastian -- We do not colonize. W

Re: How to identify origin [Was: How to identify distro, lsb-release is broken]

2006-02-23 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> I need to find a way of identifying the name of an installed >> distrobution. This mechanism should be able to differentiate >> >> woody >> sarge >> etch >> sid >> hoary >> breezy >> dapper > > Even worse is when people mix up those releases and even > distributions.

Re: sysklogd -17.1 NMU build broken in mips/mipsel

2006-02-23 Thread Thiemo Seufer
On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 08:47:31PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 12:22:27AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Chris Stromsoe wrote: > > > for the entire lifetime of the current stable release. Will -17.1 be > > > making its way into stable

How to identify origin [Was: How to identify distro, lsb-release is broken]

2006-02-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Stephen Birch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi > > I need to find a way of identifying the name of an installed > distrobution. This mechanism should be able to differentiate > > woody > sarge > etch > sid > hoary > breezy > dapper Even worse is when people mix up those releases and even distribu

Re: How to identify distro, lsb-release is broken

2006-02-23 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2006 10:16 schrieb Stephen Birch: > Miles Bader([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2006-02-23 17:41: > > Stephen Birch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I need to find a way of identifying the name of an installed > > > distrobution. This mechanism should be able to differentiate > > > >

Re: How to identify distro, lsb-release is broken

2006-02-23 Thread Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo
On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 12:34:00AM -0800, Stephen Birch wrote: > I don't pretend to understand the reason for this change but I do know > that my identification mechanism is now broken on etch. > > Can anyone suggest a more reliable mechanism? I think that the most reliable will be checking libc

Re: Problems found by piuparts

2006-02-23 Thread Frank Küster
Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [Frank Küster] >> That's not sufficient, because /usr/local may be mounted ro, and >> therefore the command may fail even if the directory is empty. > > U. > > There are lots of things dpkg can do which fail if filesystems are > mounted read-only.

Re: How to identify distro, lsb-release is broken

2006-02-23 Thread Stephen Birch
Miles Bader([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2006-02-23 17:41: > Stephen Birch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I need to find a way of identifying the name of an installed > > distrobution. This mechanism should be able to differentiate > > To what end? Many people do not run "pure" releases, so the concept of

Re: How to identify distro, lsb-release is broken

2006-02-23 Thread Miles Bader
Stephen Birch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I need to find a way of identifying the name of an installed > distrobution. This mechanism should be able to differentiate To what end? Many people do not run "pure" releases, so the concept of a distro version is rather shaky at best (especially in de

How to identify distro, lsb-release is broken

2006-02-23 Thread Stephen Birch
Hi I need to find a way of identifying the name of an installed distrobution. This mechanism should be able to differentiate woody sarge etch sid hoary breezy dapper Prior to etch I was using lsb-release but it seems /etc/lsb-release is no longer installed by 'apt-get install lsb-release'. The R