Re: PostgreSQL-Problem and Problem on Alioth

2005-01-25 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005, sean finney wrote: if i'm understanding correctly, a security drawback of both these methods is that any web application would effectively have r/w privileges to every web app's database, right? Yes. There are some web applications (like zope) which do not run as this user and

Re: More on icons for packages

2005-01-25 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005, Dale C. Scheetz wrote: It might be better to reserve /usr/share/pixmaps specifically for menu icons in xpm format and create /usr/share/icons for png gif and jpeg icon images. Why not putting all icons (xpm, png, ...) into /usr/share/pixmaps and just use the XPMs for menu and t

Re: ITP: ibuild -- Custom GNU/Linux LiveCD Distribution creator

2005-01-25 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005, [ISO-8859-1] Gürkan Sengün wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: ibuild Version : 0.33 Upstream Authors: iBuild development team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gasper Zejn (hruske), Gasper Koren (kermitjr),

Re: acpi vs apm

2005-01-25 Thread Cameron Patrick
Matthew Garrett wrote: > > So the questions goes: is this a shortcoming with the HP not being > > properly supported with acpi, am I missing some command like "apm" > > which is able to do what I want or is this simply acpi not really > > having caught up with apm yet? > > acpi requires a fairly

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 03:38 +0100, Uwe A. P. Wuerdinger wrote: > Ron Johnson schrieb: > > On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 12:34 +0200, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: > > [-snip-] > > > And yes, I've already thought of that. However, I'd rather some > > things (URLs, in this case) not be dropped my children's laps,

Re: Slightly Off Topic: Laptops for Debian

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 12:58 +1100, Rob Weir wrote: > On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 03:58:55PM -0600, Jacob Schroeder said > > On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 21:31:53 + > > Ben Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm looking for a new laptop, and wondered what DDs used. I might go > > > f

Re: More on icons for packages

2005-01-25 Thread Paul Brossier
On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 19:35 -0500, Dale C. Scheetz wrote: > With regards to GNOME panel icons. The "add to panel" option now no > longer offers "launcher from menu" so now with the "custom launcer" > you have to hunt for your icon. well yes, here it does at least. also you can drag and drop it f

Re: Slightly Off Topic: Laptops for Debian

2005-01-25 Thread Luciano Bello
I love my T21 you know... thinkpad its hard and pretty black. It's just beauty If batman carried a laptop, he'd carry a classic thinkpad (amaya's page) :P El mar, 25-01-2005 a las 21:31 +, Ben Hill escribió: > Hi, > > I'm looking for a new laptop, and wondered what DDs used. I might go fo

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Uwe A. P. Wuerdinger
Petri Latvala schrieb: On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 23:32 +0100, Tilo Schwarz wrote: On Tuesday, 25. January 2005 12:15, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * Ron Johnson | "They" don't want this inappropriate material dumped into their | children's laps right along side the things that the parents *do* | consider app

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Uwe A. P. Wuerdinger
Ron Johnson schrieb: On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 12:34 +0200, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: [-snip-] And yes, I've already thought of that. However, I'd rather some things (URLs, in this case) not be dropped my children's laps, even though they could be blocked further upstream. When they start to get curious ab

Re: Slightly Off Topic: Laptops for Debian

2005-01-25 Thread Jacob S
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 12:58:58 +1100 Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 03:58:55PM -0600, Jacob Schroeder said > > On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 21:31:53 + > > Ben Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I'm looking for a new laptop, and wondered what DDs used. I might > > >

Re: Slightly Off Topic: Laptops for Debian

2005-01-25 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 03:58:55PM -0600, Jacob Schroeder said > On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 21:31:53 + > Ben Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I'm looking for a new laptop, and wondered what DDs used. I might go > > for the Apple 15" powerbook, but I'm not sure. > > > > My apologies

Re: NM queue and groups [Was: NEW queue and ftp-master approval]

2005-01-25 Thread Joel Aelwyn
On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 12:06:06AM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 10:52:48AM -0700, Joel Aelwyn wrote: > > [1] Which is a separate rant, and frankly, I think Debian needs to be > > clear about what we really mean by "We won't hide probles" in our Social > > Contract > > It

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 01:46 +0200, Tristan Seligmann wrote: > On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 17:15:00 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Following fortune's model, this is what I'm thinking: > > dosage > > dosage-comics > > dosage-comics-off > > > > See there's no censorship here... > > Where do you draw the

Re: Bug#292183: ITP: gtkpizza -- Pizza takeaway managment program written in gtk

2005-01-25 Thread Erinn Clark
* Guglielmo Dapavo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005:01:25 17:08 +0100]: > Description : Pizza takeaway managment program written in gtk ^ management. -- off the chain like a rebellious guanine nucleotide signature.asc

Re: NM queue and groups [Was: NEW queue and ftp-master approval]

2005-01-25 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 10:52:48AM -0700, Joel Aelwyn wrote: > [1] Which is a separate rant, and frankly, I think Debian needs to be > clear about what we really mean by "We won't hide probles" in our Social > Contract It's a literal statement. We won't hide them. As always with the social contrac

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Tristan Seligmann
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 17:15:00 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > Following fortune's model, this is what I'm thinking: > dosage > dosage-comics > dosage-comics-off > > See there's no censorship here... Where do you draw the line, though? Some people would consider Sexy Losers the only offensive comic

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Petri Latvala
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 23:32 +0100, Tilo Schwarz wrote: > On Tuesday, 25. January 2005 12:15, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > * Ron Johnson > > > > | "They" don't want this inappropriate material dumped into their > > | children's laps right along side the things that the parents *do* > > | consider appr

Re: PostgreSQL-Problem and Problem on Alioth

2005-01-25 Thread sean finney
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 10:38:37AM +0100, Martin Pitt wrote: > There are two common ways to achieve that: > > - Connect as "www-data". For this you need an appropriate PostgreSQL > user ("createuser www-data" as user postgres). Then you either make > www-data the owner of the database ("create

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 14:10 -0800, D. Starner wrote: > How is this going to help parents? I don't want my future > kids to read Something Positive; it's not pornographic, I > don't recall nudity, but that level of cold-hearted cynicism > is not something I want my kids exposed to, at least not >

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
On Tuesday 25 January 2005 23:08, Tristan Seligmann wrote: > On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 22:34:12 +0100, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: > > every parent [1] will have to go through the list of available comics, > > evaluate them and disable them. > > They'll have to do this anyway if they're not sat

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 21:53 +0200, Tristan Seligmann wrote: > On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 04:30:08 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > The problem is things/websites/etc that "many" parents don't think > > are appropriate for their children. > > > > "They" don't want this inappropriate material dumped into

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 21:26 +0200, Tristan Seligmann wrote: > On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 20:15:29 +0100, Wim De Smet wrote: > > The OP wants the offensive parts split off in a separate package. He > > doesn't want dosage removed from the archive. And splitting does indeed > > change something. If his

Re: More on icons for packages

2005-01-25 Thread Dale C. Scheetz
Thank you for documenting my tour of the documents ;-) While it looks like my original posting was a complaint about how hard it was to find anythin on icons, my larger point was that there is only information on icons in the menu documentation and it is specific to the menu system, but icons are

Re: Slightly Off Topic: Laptops for Debian

2005-01-25 Thread Mark Brown
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 03:58:55PM -0600, Jacob Schroeder wrote: > I hear iBooks have a much better value for the money. Not just from a > power perspective, but also because the PowerBooks get to looking ugly > really fast. This is due to the iBook case being made from a nice > durable plastic wh

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 11:27 -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Ron Johnson dijo [Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 08:24:57AM -0600]: > > > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [snip] > > > Up until a certain age the parents should be responsible for keeping > > > control > > > on the machine itself, the sof

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Florent Rougon
Wim De Smet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not really in favour for this proposal but would you at least read > the rest off the thread. Splitting the packages off makes it easier for > the person responsible for installing packages (i.e. the one with root) > to decide what goes and what doesn't

Re: Slightly Off Topic: Laptops for Debian

2005-01-25 Thread John Hasler
Jacob writes: > I hear iBooks have a much better value for the money. Not just from a > power perspective, but also because the PowerBooks get to looking ugly > really fast. This is due to the iBook case being made from a nice durable > plastic while the PowerBook case is made from easily > scratch

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Tilo Schwarz
On Tuesday, 25. January 2005 12:15, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > * Ron Johnson > > | "They" don't want this inappropriate material dumped into their > | children's laps right along side the things that the parents *do* > | consider appropriate. > > Then they should supervise their child's use of the co

Re: Slightly Off Topic: Laptops for Debian

2005-01-25 Thread Luigi Gangitano
Il giorno mar, 25-01-2005 alle 21:31 +, Ben Hill ha scritto: > I'm looking for a new laptop, and wondered what DDs used. I might go for > the Apple 15" powerbook, but I'm not sure. Since you seem to be able to afford a PowerBook, go get a ThinkPad (at least as long as they are original IBM :-)

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
On Tuesday 25 January 2005 23:08, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: > "cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > every parent [1] will have to go through the list of available comics, > > evaluate them and disable them. > > Isn't that required in any case, if the parent wants to do content > c

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread D. Starner
How is this going to help parents? I don't want my future kids to read Something Positive; it's not pornographic, I don't recall nudity, but that level of cold-hearted cynicism is not something I want my kids exposed to, at least not at a young age. Should we set this up to only grab Garfield, Pe

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Kalle Kivimaa
"cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > every parent [1] will have to go through the list of available comics, > evaluate them and disable them. Isn't that required in any case, if the parent wants to do content checking? There is absolutely no guarantee that whatever grouping

Re: Slightly Off Topic: Laptops for Debian

2005-01-25 Thread Jacob Schroeder
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 21:31:53 + Ben Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking for a new laptop, and wondered what DDs used. I might go > for the Apple 15" powerbook, but I'm not sure. > > My apologies for this slightly off-topic post... I hear iBooks have a much better value for

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 01:00:19PM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > I don't know how if there is any free software for this purpose, Yes, there is. Take a look at Squidguard. > however, since keeping an up-to-date database of safe/unsafe sites is a > lot of work and it might need to be done comme

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Tristan Seligmann
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 22:34:12 +0100, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: > every parent [1] will have to go through the list of available comics, > evaluate them and disable them. They'll have to do this anyway if they're not satisfied with whatever the defaults are. > [... scheme for blocking

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 08:15:29PM +0100, Wim De Smet wrote: > And splitting does indeed > change something. If his kids are not root they cannot install the > "offensive" part. Absolutely false. But thanks for playing. - Matt signature.asc Descrip

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
On Tuesday 25 January 2005 20:53, Tristan Seligmann wrote: > On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 04:30:08 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > The problem is things/websites/etc that "many" parents don't think > > are appropriate for their children. > > > > "They" don't want this inappropriate material dumped into th

Slightly Off Topic: Laptops for Debian

2005-01-25 Thread Ben Hill
Hi, I'm looking for a new laptop, and wondered what DDs used. I might go for the Apple 15" powerbook, but I'm not sure. My apologies for this slightly off-topic post... Cheers, Ben -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.seigan.org GPG Fingerprint: 4309 1C58 5143 AFAC F69E 11CD 76FD 56D4 1223 E387 --

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Wim De Smet
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 09:30:46PM +0100, Florent Rougon wrote: > Tristan Seligmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Firing up a normal web browser to view Sexy Losers with is not much > > harder than using Dosage to download it. This doesn't take away from the > > idea of having a separate packag

ITP: ibuild -- Custom GNU/Linux LiveCD Distribution creator

2005-01-25 Thread Gürkan Sengün
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: ibuild Version : 0.33 Upstream Authors: iBuild development team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gasper Zejn (hruske), Gasper Koren (kermitjr), Kermit Jones (skrat),

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Ron Johnson | I don't want the sharp hooks removed. I want them put in "boxes" | (i.e. packages) where they can be easily installed by root, but | aren't just laying around (i.e., in dosage, along with the "nice | round scissors" that are suitable for children). | | Am I making any sense to

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Florent Rougon
Tristan Seligmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Firing up a normal web browser to view Sexy Losers with is not much > harder than using Dosage to download it. This doesn't take away from the > idea of having a separate package, of course. If the trend to put "unsuitable material" in -off packages

ITP: aqhbci -- library for HBCI home banking

2005-01-25 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Package name: aqhbci Version : 0.9.19 beta Upstream Author : Martin Preuß URL : http://www.aqmainiac.de/aqbanking/ License : GPL (maybe parts LGPL) Description : library for HBCI home banking AqHBCI provides plugins to

ITP: aqbanking -- generic library for home banking

2005-01-25 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Package name: aqbanking Version : 1.0.2 beta Upstream Author : Martin Preuß URL : http://www.aqmainiac.de/aqbanking/ License : GPL (maybe parts LGPL) Description : generic library for home banking AqBanking provides a

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Jorge Bernal
El Martes 25 Enero 2005 20:19, Tristan Seligmann escribió: > On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 15:25:14 +0100, Jorge Bernal wrote: > > another thing: > > Given A,B where A=parent(B) > > if ((A have not installed dosage) && (B hasn't root access)) > > B can't access dosage > > Unless you're already restric

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Tristan Seligmann
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 04:30:08 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > The problem is things/websites/etc that "many" parents don't think > are appropriate for their children. > > "They" don't want this inappropriate material dumped into their > children's laps right along side the things that the parents *

Bug#292209: ITP: python-celementtree -- Light-weight XML object model for Python, C implementation

2005-01-25 Thread Torsten Marek
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Torsten Marek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: python-celementtree Version : 0.9.8 Upstream Author : Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://effbot.org/zone/celementtree.htm * License : Python Description

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Ron Johnson dijo [Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 08:24:57AM -0600]: > > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [snip] > > Up until a certain age the parents should be responsible for keeping control > > on the machine itself, the software it has installed and the programs they > > can > > use/install,

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread paddy
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 01:00:19PM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > ti, 2005-01-25 kello 12:34 +0200, Kalle Kivimaa kirjoitti: > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The problem is things/websites/etc that "many" parents don't think > > > are appropriate for their children. > > > > These

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Tristan Seligmann
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 20:15:29 +0100, Wim De Smet wrote: > The OP wants the offensive parts split off in a separate package. He > doesn't want dosage removed from the archive. And splitting does indeed > change something. If his kids are not root they cannot install the > "offensive" part. They m

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Tristan Seligmann
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 15:25:14 +0100, Jorge Bernal wrote: > another thing: > Given A,B where A=parent(B) > if ((A have not installed dosage) && (B hasn't root access)) > B can't access dosage Unless you're already restricting internet access, B can just download it and install/run it from th

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Wim De Smet
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 07:13:30PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 17:35 +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > >> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > This sounds a bit like the gun control debate. > >> > > >> > I don't want the

Re: apply to NM? ha!

2005-01-25 Thread Gergely Nagy
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 12:02 -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Gergely Nagy writes: > > Indeed. Even if all of us start to behave ourselves and avoid nasty > > flamewars (ha! in your dreams! :P), we still have to deal with the > > occassional bugreporter of Barbaric Communication School For 1337 People >

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Anthony Juckel
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 14:55:19 +0100, Jesus Climent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At no time Debian should be censoring any content for innapropiate. Every > single bit of information has an audience which might feel offended by it. > I'm mostly just a lurker on debian-devel, but as someone who is v

Re: apply to NM? ha!

2005-01-25 Thread John Hasler
Gergely Nagy writes: > Indeed. Even if all of us start to behave ourselves and avoid nasty > flamewars (ha! in your dreams! :P), we still have to deal with the > occassional bugreporter of Barbaric Communication School For 1337 People > (the `f**k you, this piece of s***e doesn't work, go fix it or

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Frank Küster
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 17:35 +0100, Frank Küster wrote: >> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > This sounds a bit like the gun control debate. >> > >> > I don't want the sharp hooks removed. I want them put in "boxes" >> > (i.e. packages) where t

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread David Nusinow
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 03:02:31PM +, Will Newton wrote: > 1. File a wishlist big against dosage if one does not already exist. 1a. Submit a patch so that you can be certain you get what you want. > 2. Get on with your life. - David Nusinow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] w

Re: apply to NM? ha!

2005-01-25 Thread John Hasler
Henning Makholm writes: > I believe that it *should* be a requirement that one has enough calm to > most of the time respond to (percieved or actual) aggression and insults > in a less aggressive and insulting way than the other party > uses. Otherwise the project will surely die (film at 11!) from

NM queue and groups [Was: NEW queue and ftp-master approval]

2005-01-25 Thread Joel Aelwyn
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 08:25:22AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:28:25 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I think ftp-master already has a more complex prioritizing than > >that. Adding a new kernel images deb tends to be real fast (with > >exceptions),

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 17:35 +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This sounds a bit like the gun control debate. > > > > I don't want the sharp hooks removed. I want them put in "boxes" > > (i.e. packages) where they can be easily installed by root, but > > ar

Re: policy-rc.d confusion (was: not starting packages at boot)

2005-01-25 Thread Gerrit Pape
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 09:32:02AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > So policy-rc.d needs to be in /usr/local, or we have a FHS violation. > Additionally, the requirement of going through the alternatives system > for policy-rc.d selection is somewhat mis-placed, because it suggests > to me that policy-rc

Bug#292183: ITP: gtkpizza -- Pizza takeaway managment program written in gtk

2005-01-25 Thread Guglielmo Dapavo
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Guglielmo Dapavo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: gtkpizza Version : 0.1.0 Upstream Author : Guglielmo Dapavo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.dapavo.it/ * License : (GPL) Description : Pizza takeaway manag

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Frank Küster
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This sounds a bit like the gun control debate. > > I don't want the sharp hooks removed. I want them put in "boxes" > (i.e. packages) where they can be easily installed by root, but > aren't just laying around (i.e., in dosage, along with the "nice > roun

Re: NEW queue and ftp-master approval

2005-01-25 Thread Frank Küster
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [automatic NEW processing for split or renamed binary packages, and occasionally a bug report and removal from the archive of a badly named package] > I could live with that if it means a lot more packages don't get stuck > in NEW. But maybe that i

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Sam Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > There is a difference between a general tool (web-browser) and a > specific tool (the Sexy Losers script). The script is specifically > designed to download a hard-core pornographic comic. FWIW, Sexy Losers is not "hard-core pornographic". It does conta

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 16:44 +0100, Jorge Bernal wrote: > El Martes 25 Enero 2005 15:42, Ron Johnson escribió: > > But if MadamAndEve is not on the list of supported comics that > > I've installed for dosage, then there's no need to explain. > > Parenting is already busy enough trying to help them u

Re: apply to NM? ha!

2005-01-25 Thread Gergely Nagy
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 15:00 +, Henning Makholm wrote: > Scripsit Helen Faulkner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [...] > > I do not believe that being thick-skinned enough to cope with people > > who are very agressive or insulting should be a requirement for > > involvement in Debian. > > I believe that i

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Jorge Bernal
El Martes 25 Enero 2005 15:42, Ron Johnson escribió: > But if MadamAndEve is not on the list of supported comics that > I've installed for dosage, then there's no need to explain. > Parenting is already busy enough trying to help them understand > why any number of $ACTIONs are "wrong", why would I

Re: policy-rc.d confusion

2005-01-25 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 18:44:42 +1100, Matthew Palmer >>Steve answered your first question. The second question makes no sense, >>since policy-rc.d is supposed to be written by the administrator to fit >>their local policy. > So policy-rc.d needs to be in /

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 15:02 +, Will Newton wrote: > On Tuesday 25 Jan 2005 14:59, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > You have the option to *not* install them on your machine. John > > Ashcroft is not holding a gun to your head making you install it. > > > > I want to have more options than just to do

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 15:25 +0100, Jorge Bernal wrote: > El Martes 25 Enero 2005 11:30, Ron Johnson escribió: > > The problem is things/websites/etc that "many" parents don't think > > are appropriate for their children. > > > > "They" don't want this inappropriate material dumped into their > > ch

Re: apply to NM? ha!

2005-01-25 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Helen Faulkner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Based on comments made to me by a number of women who are interested > in contributing more to Debian, the level of agressiveness on some of > the mailing lists and IRC channels is a problem. Hmm... after I started wasting time on #debian-devel I have

Re: NEW queue and ftp-master approval

2005-01-25 Thread Otavio Salvador
|| On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 15:31:55 +0100 || Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: gvb> How often does it actualy happen that ftp-master rejects the name of a gvb> package? Did anyone have that happen to him/her when adding a new deb gvb> to old source ever? >> >> This is not the only prob

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Will Newton
On Tuesday 25 Jan 2005 14:59, Ron Johnson wrote: > You have the option to *not* install them on your machine. John > Ashcroft is not holding a gun to your head making you install it. > > I want to have more options than just to do or do not install > dosage. What's wrong with that? 1. File a wi

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 14:48 +0100, Jesus Climent wrote: > On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 04:30:08AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > > So where's the problem? > > > > The problem is things/websites/etc that "many" parents don't think > > are appropriate for their children. > > > > "They" don't want th

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 13:59 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Op di, 25-01-2005 te 04:30 -0600, schreef Ron Johnson: > > On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 11:04 +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > > > Good idea. dosage went even a step further: It doesn't include any of > > > those comics at all. > > > > http://slipga

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 14:39 +0100, Isaac Clerencia wrote: > On Tuesday, 25 de January de 2005 13:00, Ron Johnson wrote: > > I thought like you until my kids grew to an age where supervising > > every waking minute of their lives is quite impossible. > What age? 25 years old? 5yo. They are in Kind

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 14:05 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Op di, 25-01-2005 te 06:00 -0600, schreef Ron Johnson: > > On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 12:15 +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > > * Ron Johnson > > > > > > | "They" don't want this inappropriate material dumped into their > > > | children's lap

Re: NEW queue and ftp-master approval

2005-01-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Otavio Salvador <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > || On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 07:37:49 +0100 > || Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > gvb> Then the maintainer gets a bugreport saying they should > gvb> Replace/Conflict/Provide the silly name. Also ftp-mster could get an > gvb> automatic no

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 14:04 +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > * Ron Johnson > > | On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 12:15 +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > | > * Ron Johnson [snip] > Then perhaps they should get to see porn if they want to? Or filter > URLs in your gateway or whatever -- I really don't see why

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Jorge Bernal
El Martes 25 Enero 2005 11:30, Ron Johnson escribió: > The problem is things/websites/etc that "many" parents don't think > are appropriate for their children. > > "They" don't want this inappropriate material dumped into their > children's laps right along side the things that the parents *do* > c

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 14:55 +0100, Jesus Climent wrote: > On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 12:34:38PM +0200, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [snip] > Up until a certain age the parents should be responsible for keeping control > on the machine itself, the software it has ins

Re: not starting packages at boot

2005-01-25 Thread Florent Rougon
Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A bad hack. I hate to drop my own binaries to /usr/sbin. You can make /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d a symlink to the file of your choice under /usr/local. A bit less bad, but wouldn't prevent something undesirable happening if you install a package shipping /usr/sb

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 13:46 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 12:34 +0200, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: > >> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > The problem is things/websites/etc that "many" parents don't think > >> > are a

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Frank Küster
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 12:15 +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: >> * Ron Johnson >> >> | "They" don't want this inappropriate material dumped into their >> | children's laps right along side the things that the parents *do* >> | consider appropriate. >> >> T

Re: try to keep a watch file into your package

2005-01-25 Thread Bluefuture
Il giorno mar, 25-01-2005 alle 13:56 +0100, Wouter Verhelst ha scritto: > I'm not convinced having a watch file is always useful. > I agree with you. > I would hope a maintainer would follow the announcements of the software I agree with this. Dehs/Watch is not a system for bypassing upstream ma

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Jesus Climent
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 12:34:38PM +0200, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The problem is things/websites/etc that "many" parents don't think > > are appropriate for their children. > > These parents are free to install whatever traffic blocker they feel > appropr

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Frank Küster
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 12:09 +0100, Frank Küster wrote: >> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > The problem is things/websites/etc that "many" parents don't think >> > are appropriate for their children. >> > >> > "They" don't want this inapprop

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Jesus Climent
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 04:30:08AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > So where's the problem? > > The problem is things/websites/etc that "many" parents don't think > are appropriate for their children. > > "They" don't want this inappropriate material dumped into their > children's laps right alon

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Isaac Clerencia
On Tuesday, 25 de January de 2005 13:00, Ron Johnson wrote: > I thought like you until my kids grew to an age where supervising > every waking minute of their lives is quite impossible. What age? 25 years old? -- Isaac ClerenciaÂ<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Warp Networks     http://www.warp.es MarÃa

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ian Campbell
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 14:04 +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > Ian Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > > On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 13:06 +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > > > >> The changelog Ron posted says > >> > >> , > >> | * Added comics: > >> | - MadamAndEve (contributed by Anthony Caetano) > >

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Frank Küster
Ian Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 13:06 +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > >> The changelog Ron posted says >> >> , >> | * Added comics: >> |- MadamAndEve (contributed by Anthony Caetano) >> | ... >> ` >> >> either this means that the comics are in

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op di, 25-01-2005 te 06:00 -0600, schreef Ron Johnson: > On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 12:15 +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > * Ron Johnson > > > > | "They" don't want this inappropriate material dumped into their > > | children's laps right along side the things that the parents *do* > > | consider app

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Ron Johnson | On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 12:15 +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | > * Ron Johnson | > | > | "They" don't want this inappropriate material dumped into their | > | children's laps right along side the things that the parents *do* | > | consider appropriate. | > | > Then they should sup

Re: policy-rc.d confusion (was: not starting packages at boot)

2005-01-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005, Marc Haber wrote: > So policy-rc.d needs to be in /usr/local, or we have a FHS violation. Please request that we enhance invoke-rc.d to look on /usr/local first, then (through a wishlist bug). Looks like a good idea at first glance. > Additionally, the requirement of going t

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op di, 25-01-2005 te 04:30 -0600, schreef Ron Johnson: > On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 11:04 +0100, Frank KÃster wrote: > > Good idea. dosage went even a step further: It doesn't include any of > > those comics at all. > > http://slipgate.za.net/dosage/downloads/changelog > > > So where's the problem? >

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 12:34 +0200, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: >> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > The problem is things/websites/etc that "many" parents don't think >> > are appropriate for their children. >> >> These parents are free to install wha

Re: Debian Developers photo gallery

2005-01-25 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25-01-2005 12:14, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > Moving to -project, follow up there. > > Em Ter, 2005-01-25 às 09:30 +, Steve Kemp escreveu: > >> That'd be too much, but I'd love to see a photo field in the >> db.debian.org database, or some

Bug#292150: ITP: phpauction -- PHP based auction site, you can submit and make offers for auctions

2005-01-25 Thread Guglielmo Dapavo
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Guglielmo Dapavo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: phpauctionGPL Version : 2.5.0 Upstream Author : Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.phpauction.org/ * License : (GPL) Description : PHP based auction site,

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