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Hi,
I finally had some time and a new hard drive to get around to trying out a
virgin sarge installation. To my dismay, I found that netkit-inetd is
still going on as part of base.
As a security professional, I think this is a Bad Thing(tm). For all the
woody boxes I deploy in my infrastructure
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 06:30:26PM -0700, Joshua Kwan wrote:
> Which is better? I like the default keys because you learn how to use nvi
> very efficiently knowing the hjkl-style keys :) I'm searching for as many
> opinions as possible so please speak up!
i agree. hjkl keys are betterand give
> "Martin" == Martin Pitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
Martin> I also thought about that because it also annoys be. But then
Martin> again, I _do_ want the partitions checked every now and then
Martin> (e. g. every 25 mounts). Wouldn't this disable fsck completely?
Martin> Or is the ckec
Martin Pitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Pre-Dependencies are supposed to be discussed at d-devel which I want
> to do now. If anybody objects I will just do it.
I have some reservations about using pre-dependencies on a package
like adduser. Since adduser was not designed as something that wo
Joshua Kwan wrote:
> These days Debian's nethack packages contain default nethackrcs which
> enable number_pad style controls (instead of hjkl keys) by default, due
> to a bug filed on the packages a long time ago. Of course, there are some
> who like it and some who don't. It's too trivial to ask
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 13:40:53 -0700, "William H. Gaddes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Re: Economist subscription of W.H.Gaddes
>
> Today in the mail I received a card entitled 'Customer Service
> Reply'. It stated that they could not locate my September 20 payment
> and asked me to call y
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 08:31:47PM -0400, Jim Penny wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 01:38:45 +0200
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Domenico Andreoli) wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 05:38:51PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > > [ObPrivate: this doesn't belong on private. Quote me freely.]
> > >
> > > On W
2003-10-15, sze keltezéssel Ben Collins ezt írta:
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 10:51:14PM +0200, Magos?nyi ?rp?d wrote:
> > /etc/zorp is mode 0700 in upstream. In a typical setup, almost
> > every single file under this directory contains sensitive information:
> If the directory is justified, then t
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 06:30:26PM -0700, Joshua Kwan wrote:
> Searching for a general consensus here...
>
> These days Debian's nethack packages contain default nethackrcs which
> enable number_pad style controls (instead of hjkl keys) by default, due
> to a bug filed on the packages a long time
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 10:56:49PM +0200, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote:
> Nevermind... I still have problems with `jam install`. I don't know how
> to pass to it directory prefix.
Sorry, if this does not help. What about the '-s' option?
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On 17-Oct-03, 13:24 (CDT), Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 12:20:03PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote:
> > You aren't trying to make debian/rules a jam script are you?
>
> Even if he was, that would be fine if he knew how to do it properly.
Policy 4.8:
This file
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 08:27:17PM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote:
> If any package that needs to add a user should always use adduser,
> should that not be a required package rather than just important?
The priority has nothing to do with how many packages use it; there is an
explicit definition in
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 05:32:11PM -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote:
> Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Policy is not everything that counts. Just because policy doesnt say
> > something it means it is good to do it.
>
> Of course but I think if the developper did something is because he
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 08:44:01PM -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote:
> Yes. This way to show issues is the right one but the James way is
> not. He doesn't do a suggestion but an exigency. This is wrong.
He did the right thing.
> Yes. The reson of my first mail is exactly this. I want make some trou
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 08:24:20PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> > You aren't trying to make debian/rules a jam script are you?
> Even if he was, that would be fine if he knew how to do it properly.
I wasn't ;)
Nevermind... I still have problems with `jam install`. I don't know how
to pass to it dir
Re: Economist subscription of W.H.Gaddes
Today in the mail I received a card entitled 'Customer Service
Reply'. It stated that they could not locate my September 20 payment and
asked me to call your customer service office "at the number below". There
was no number any where on the card so
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On 2003-10-17 15:17 -0400, Hubert Chan wrote:
> A> 3- Then, fsck.reiserfs does a fsck of the disk. Regardless of it
> A> being dirty or not (that is, ignoring the absence of the '-f'
> A> flag). This is another difference with fsck.ext{2,3}. This is a minor
> A> bug, but annoying (it wastes ti
Julian Mehnle wrote:
> Kris Deugau wrote:
> > OK, I think I've thought of a sort of a counter-example:
> > [...]
> > I'm sending "from" myfriendsdomain.com's server,
> > but I don't have an account there.
^
> > I do, however, have an account
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED
Peter S Galbraith wrote:
AFAIK, you need to depend on emacs itself (and not emacs-common) if you
byte-compile it. I _think_ stuff can break if you don't, but I'm vague
on why. Search the debian-emacsen archives. I split off a package
because of that issue a while back, but the seperate -el packa
yes, number_pad
why, because I don't need to remember what the arrows on the keys mean
Jochen Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hello,
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 06:30:26PM -0700, Joshua Kwan wrote:
>> Which is better? I like the default keys because you learn how to use
>> nvi very efficiently knowing the hjkl-style keys :)
> I am in favour of both :-O
>
> * The hjkl style keys a
I've just got home and read this thread. It's OK by me, Martin, to make
the change, in view of the tenor of the replies.
On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 15:17, Andreas Metzler wrote:
> Mathieu Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hum, instead of adduser, useradd should be used by the posgresql
> > package.
Why is this in d-devel?
> "A" == A Mennucc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
A> hello I have set up a box that uses reiserfs as the root filesystem
A> I have noticed 3 facts that seem to be bugs (but I could not tell for
A> sure)
A> 1- I use a stock kernel by Herbert XU, which uses initrd; when
A
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On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 02:53:48PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> The reason why source only uploads are bad, is that they encourage bad
> practice such as people not checking the build.
More precisely, they fail to discourage it. There is not actually any
positive reinforcement for uploading an
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 12:20:03PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote:
> You aren't trying to make debian/rules a jam script are you?
Even if he was, that would be fine if he knew how to do it properly.
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Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Could someone tell me which package uses jam instead make for building?
> I am trying to package netpanzer and it uses jam...
> I'd like to see any examples how to connect debian/rules with jam.
>
> I hope there are any packages builded with j
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 06:49:49PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote:
> > Could someone tell me which package uses jam instead make for building?
> > I am trying to package netpanzer and it uses jam...
> > I'd like to see any examples how to connect debian/rules with jam.
> >
> > I hope there are an
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 12:29:31PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> Real men use hjkl.
And Real Real Men even use a German keyboard for this,
where Y and Z are exchanged. So going to the north-west
ist more fun :-)
Jochen
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On 17-Oct-03, 10:42 (CDT), Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Could someone tell me which package uses jam instead make for building?
> I am trying to package netpanzer and it uses jam...
> I'd like to see any examples how to connect debian/rules with jam.
build:
jam
Hello,
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 06:30:26PM -0700, Joshua Kwan wrote:
> Which is better? I like the default keys because you learn how to use
> nvi very efficiently knowing the hjkl-style keys :)
I am in favour of both :-O
* The hjkl style keys are really impossible to remember.
So of course the
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 05:42:22PM +0200, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote:
> Hello.
>
> Could someone tell me which package uses jam instead make for building?
> I am trying to package netpanzer and it uses jam...
> I'd like to see any examples how to connect debian/rules with jam.
>
> I hope the
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 12:20:03PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote:
> > Could someone tell me which package uses jam instead make for building?
> > I am trying to package netpanzer and it uses jam...
> > I'd like to see any examples how to connect debian/rules with jam.
> >
> > I hope there are any pack
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 05:27:15PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> Op vr 17-10-2003, om 15:12 schreef Sven Luther:
> > On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 02:53:48PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 02:25:04PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> Are you considering the fact that our current
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 05:42:22PM +0200, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote:
> Hello.
>
> Could someone tell me which package uses jam instead make for building?
> I am trying to package netpanzer and it uses jam...
> I'd like to see any examples how to connect debian/rules with jam.
>
> I hope the
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 05:27:15PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> Op vr 17-10-2003, om 15:12 schreef Sven Luther:
> > On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 02:53:48PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 02:25:04PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 01:52:38PM -0400
Hello.
Could someone tell me which package uses jam instead make for building?
I am trying to package netpanzer and it uses jam...
I'd like to see any examples how to connect debian/rules with jam.
I hope there are any packages builded with jam ;)
TIA
regards
fEnIo
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Op vr 17-10-2003, om 15:12 schreef Sven Luther:
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 02:53:48PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 02:25:04PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 01:52:38PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:
> > > > Please search the list archives for th
Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Peter S Galbraith
>
> | AFAIK, you need to depend on emacs itself (and not emacs-common) if you
> | byte-compile it. I _think_ stuff can break if you don't, but I'm vague
> | on why. Search the debian-emacsen archives. I split off a package
> | b
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On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 02:35:17PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 09:24:25AM -0400, christophe barbe wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 02:53:48PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> [somebody deleted some attributions here, so I no longer know who said
> what]
> > > > > - Arch
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 02:48:00PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 03:12:14PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 02:53:48PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > > Since experimental isn't autobuilt, I fail to see your point.
> >
> > Well, try to install the qua
Ok, I got no takers, so I'm not bothering to go down today. However,
there will be some more trips down to Manhatten in the next few weeks, so
if any developers will be around to sign keys, please let me know.
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:40:53 -0400, Andres Salomon
wrote:
> I have the chance to tag
* Joshua Kwan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Searching for a general consensus here...
number_pad is hellish on laptops, and the hjkl keys are just better
dangit.
iain
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On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 09:24:25AM -0400, christophe barbe wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 02:53:48PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > > > - Architecture: all packages would not get built
> > >
> > > Well, we just need an arch: all autobuilder and that's it, or one of the
> > > autobuilders bu
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 03:12:14PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 02:53:48PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > Since experimental isn't autobuilt, I fail to see your point.
>
> Well, try to install the quark 3.21-1 package on your system for example
> then, and you will see wh
Thomas Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> number_pad is your friend. It's far easier to remember the keys.
I used to use the number pad, but then I got a laptop...
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On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 09:24:25AM -0400, christophe barbe wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 02:53:48PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
[somebody deleted some attributions here, so I no longer know who said
what]
> > > > - Architecture: all packages would not get built
> > >
> > > Well, we just ne
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 02:53:48PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 02:25:04PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 01:52:38PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 07:48:33PM +0200, W. Borgert wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > a few
A levelezőm azt hiszi, hogy Matt Zimmerman a következőeket írta:
> > - - syslog-ng is started, then stopped and then started again, why?
>
> Also pretty harmless, and syslog-ng's fault.
The upload closing this bug is ready, and slowly crawles up to
master.
BTW how much is it decent to wait befor
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 02:53:48PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > > - Architecture: all packages would not get built
> >
> > Well, we just need an arch: all autobuilder and that's it, or one of the
> > autobuilders building the arch: all stuff.
>
> Feel free to set up one.
I feel like I am
Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Otavio Salvador <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> [ I'm including the debian-devel list in CC since I appreciate the
>> opinion of others developpers ]
>>
>> James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> > This package is dubiously small enough as it
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 02:25:04PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 01:52:38PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 07:48:33PM +0200, W. Borgert wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > a few days ago, I uploaded an emacs mode package (all) source only
> > > w/o probl
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 01:15:00AM -0700, Joshua Kwan wrote:
> > Well, one problem I see with that immediately is that 'k' when
> > number_pad is enabled means kick; if number_pad is off it means go up.
> > Of course, we could disable k for kick and use ^D;
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On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Miles Bader wrote:
> BTW, another point is that the original layout is a fairly unique part
> of rogue culture, and shipping with it turned off seems a bit like using
> graphical tiles by default, or having emacs start up in wordpad-
> compatibility mode -- one can perhaps unde
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 01:52:38PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 07:48:33PM +0200, W. Borgert wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > a few days ago, I uploaded an emacs mode package (all) source only
> > w/o problems to ftp-master. Today, a source only upload was rejected.
> > Why? I
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On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 02:12:55PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 07:05:56PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
>
> > also sprach Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.10.11.0554 +0200]:
> > > People care more about some things than others. Given a choice between
> > > IPsec
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On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 01:15:00AM -0700, Joshua Kwan wrote:
> Well, one problem I see with that immediately is that 'k' when
> number_pad is enabled means kick; if number_pad is off it means go up.
> Of course, we could disable k for kick and use ^D; but in the end we
> might end up with an awkwa
Op vr 17-10-2003, om 01:52 schreef Otavio Salvador:
> Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >> Of course but I think if the developper did something is because he
> >> think this is better and this should be respected (if doesn't broke
> >> the policy)
> >
> > You've had about 8 people te
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> Julian Mehnle wrote:
> > Andreas Metzler wrote:
> > > If I send an e-mail over mail.nusrf.at with envelope-from
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am _not_ forging anything or making
> > > "unauthorized use of domains"
> >
> > Yes, you are. The envelope-from address is not a reply-to
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Please CC: me on replies, i'm not subscribed to debian-devel.
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* Miles Bader
| I definitely prefer hjkl -- the huge amount of extra hand movement
| required by the number-pad layout is downright painful.
|
| [and I'm a longtime emacs user!]
C-[np] and C-[bf] we need, then :)
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* Peter S Galbraith
| AFAIK, you need to depend on emacs itself (and not emacs-common) if you
| byte-compile it. I _think_ stuff can break if you don't, but I'm vague
| on why. Search the debian-emacsen archives. I split off a package
| because of that issue a while back, but the seperate -el
Hi!
Am 2003-10-17 2:18 +0100 schrieb Colin Watson:
> Use adduser. It's your friend.
This is a word! :-) Fine, I'll make it so then.
Russell, thanks for your explanation, I know what you mean now.
Have a nice weekend!
Martin
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Am 16.10.03 um 20:44:01 schrieb Otavio Salvador:
> Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > [6 lines of explanation]
> Yes. This way to show issues is the right one but the James way is
> not. He doesn't do a suggestion but an exigency. This is wrong.
Oh, so you expect a very long and detai
* Joshua Kwan
> Searching for a general consensus here...
>
> These days Debian's nethack packages contain default nethackrcs which
> enable number_pad style controls (instead of hjkl keys) by default, due
> to a bug filed on the packages a long time ago. Of course, there are some
> who like
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 08:40:10AM +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> Disabling hjkl results in a rather nasty and inconvenient surprise when
> you fire up the Debian nethack package. I seem to remember that in
> previous versions of nethack enabling the numeric keypad did not disable
> the standard movem
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 06:30:26PM -0700, Joshua Kwan wrote:
> Which is better? I like the default keys because you learn how to use
> nvi very efficiently knowing the hjkl-style keys :) I'm searching for as
> many opinions as possible so please speak up!
Disabling hjkl results in a rather nasty
On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 20:30, Joshua Kwan wrote:
> Searching for a general consensus here...
>
> These days Debian's nethack packages contain default nethackrcs which
> enable number_pad style controls (instead of hjkl keys) by default, due
> to a bug filed on the packages a long time ago. Of cours
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 12:29:31PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> Joshua Kwan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Which is better? I like the default keys because you learn how to use
> > nvi very efficiently knowing the hjkl-style keys :) I'm searching for as
> > many opinions as possible so please sp
BTW, another point is that the original layout is a fairly unique part
of rogue culture, and shipping with it turned off seems a bit like using
graphical tiles by default, or having emacs start up in wordpad-
compatibility mode -- one can perhaps understand the appeal for the
rawest of newbies, but
I definitely prefer hjkl -- the huge amount of extra hand movement
required by the number-pad layout is downright painful.
[and I'm a longtime emacs user!]
-miles
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