Andreas Metzler writes:
>Using my memory of my last visit on
>http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl
>and from reading diverse mailinglists I think the major issues are:
There are probably other issues than the ones you mention below which
really ought to be fixed prior to release, such as
* the
Adam Heath wrote:
> /usr/bin/vi should be an alternative for vi-compatible editors.
>
> /usr/bin/vi should then be an alternative that is hooked into /usr/bin/editor.
Yeah, I've always wanted to resolve 6 levels of symlinks to get to my
editor.
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On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 12:03:17PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> Bob Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Slightly off-topic, is there any tool to easily determine reverse
> > build-depends?
>
> apt-cache showpkg
apt-cache showpkg does not show reverse build-depends.
--
- mdz
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 07:33:25PM -0600, Dwayne C. Litzenberger wrote:
>
> Personally, I'd rather see a better set of tools for programmers to use to
> create temporary files. tmpfile(3) is horribly inadequade for a lot of
> things (like when you need to know the filename of the file you just
>
Dwayne C. Litzenberger wrote:
> - in the meantime, tmpreaper cleans up /tmp/bob
Just FWIW, but a multiuser system that is running tmpreaper is insecure.
The bugs apparantly cannot be fixed, but I can write up an exploit if
you pay me. :-)
Directory size matters less and less anyway, modern filey
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> - Installing the list of package we want
>
> Using meta-packages (ie packages consisting only of dependencies)
> to install the packages we want. Used hooks in base-config to
> get them installed during first time installation. Not too happy
> ab
Bob Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Slightly off-topic, is there any tool to easily determine reverse
> build-depends?
apt-cache showpkg
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On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 07:33:25PM -0600, Dwayne C. Litzenberger wrote:
>
> Personally, I'd rather see a better set of tools for programmers to use to
> create temporary files. tmpfile(3) is horribly inadequade for a lot of
> things (like when you need to know the filename of the file you just
>
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On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 09:16:44AM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> > Not necessarily. With the current /tmp system, the only directory entries
> > that are created are the ones that are actually needed at any given time.
> > If we switch to /tmp/username, then there will be a directory entry in /tm
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 01:27:04PM -0600, Dwayne C. Litzenberger wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 08:43:20AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
> > On 24-Jul-03, 17:56 (CDT), "Dwayne C. Litzenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > Systems with large numbers of users (and normally use, for exampl
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If you pick the Spanish language task in tasksel, you will get mozilla
and openoffice installed, which is often not the desired effect. This is
because the spanish task, like many tasks, pulls in -ll packages like
openoffice.org-l10n-es and
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 02:38:29PM +0200, Jesus Climent wrote:
> By taking so long from release to release (NO ofense to anyone) we provide old
> and buggy software (in some cases) which only gets security fixes, but then
> the fame of Debian being rock solid might not be true in all its senses.
Bob Hilliard wrote:
> A true newbie would be one who has never used a computer before. To such
> a person, a CLI is much more intuitive than any GUI.
Colin Walters writes:
> And your research supporting this is...?
No research, but I've had a couple of experiences that tend to confirm it.
It's i
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* Tore Anderson
>> God, No! There's far too many Debconf questions being asked by
>> various Debian packages already, IMNSHO.
* Petter Reinholdtsen
> There is no reason for you to get religious over this question.
>
> The nice thing about debconf is that there is no _need_ to present all
Hi
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 05:58:31PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
[...]
> - Configure default language for all users
>
> Using a custom script to rewrite config files to modify the
> default language/locale.
Why not having multiple languages per user? I mean for example:
1) Fren
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, Bob Proulx wrote:
> As I read the original bug report and apply my own spin onto it I see
> the original poster was concerned that a user invoking /usr/bin/editor
> is probably not wanting either of the traditional vi or emacs editors.
> They are probably a user that wants a s
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Jérôme Marant wrote:
>> Userfirendliness means necessarily hiding technical details IMO, without
>> dealing with graphical aspects. I think that D-i hasn't reach that
>> state.
>
> It seems you're not aware of the SkoleLinux distribution. SkoleLinux has
> ta
On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 09:53, Bob Hilliard wrote:
> There is a widespread tendency to consider "newbie" to mean a
> refugee from MS or some other eye-candy system. A true newbie would
> be one who has never used a computer before. To such a person, a CLI
> is much more intuitive than any GUI
debian-policy@lists.debian.org
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On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 01:17:27AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Hi,
> On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 16:29:59 -0700, Mike Fedyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 08:43:20AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
> On 24-Jul-03, 17:56 (CDT), "Dwayne C. Litzenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 02:50:05PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
> > > Please don't. Is there *any* reason why defaulting
> > > TMPDIR=/tmp/ is i
I demand that Frederic Wagner may or may not have written...
> I'd like to maintain yadex, which I'm using quite often, for debian. Anyway
> it was about time for me to do something for debian, so adopting an
> existing package should be the right way to start.
(I was going to do this but mumble.
[Tore Anderson]
> God, No! There's far too many Debconf questions being asked by
> various Debian packages already, IMNSHO.
There is no reason for you to get religious over this question.
The nice thing about debconf is that there is no _need_ to present all
options as questions. One can like n
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 07:51:49PM +0200, Peter Makholm wrote:
> Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > If your package has a bug affecting arm, login to debussy and fix it.
> > If your package has a bug affecting mips, login to casals and fix it.
> > If your package has a bug affectin
Bob Hilliard said:
> Slightly off-topic, is there any tool to easily determine reverse
> build-depends?
Probably the best way is to use something like:
grep-dctrl -FBuild-Depends -s Package foobar-dev /var/lib/apt/lists/*Sources
Regards
Josh
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 04:47:24PM +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote:
> I think other answers in this thread speak for themselves. If you've
> not even tried asking for an account to fix some bugs, then you're
> obviously not that interested fixing them.
You're talking as if fixing bugs is some ki
Karsten Merker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> There is an official mips system available to all developers (casals.d.o).
Oh, cool, I must have missed that announcement.
> If you need stuff tested on a mipsel system in the meantime, please send me
> an email and I will try to get account on anothe
Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If your package has a bug affecting arm, login to debussy and fix it.
> If your package has a bug affecting mips, login to casals and fix it.
> If your package has a bug affecting m68k, login to kullervo and fix it.
Have I missed something? I can'
>
> I do not know whether there is, but, what about making a architecture
> archive for debian package managers to use, test, update their packages
maintainers..
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Tore Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Petter Reinholdtsen
>
> > - Preconfigure the packages we install
> >
> > I believe the best option would be to extend all the packages
> > we use to make it possible to configure everything we need
> >
>
> You checked too long ago. Casals.debian.org is an SGI Indigo2, MIPS
> R4000 CPU.
>
> Williams.debian.org and vaughan.debian.org will be MIPSel boxes, as soon
> as Sun ships them to me, I get them online, and the sysadmin team gets
> them configured. Supposedly I'll have the boxes within a w
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 01:37:15PM -0400, Aaron M. Ucko wrote:
> > The reason I havn't offered them for general Debian machines is that there
> > are already (generally better) machines available on better connections.
>
> Last I checked, there weren't any public mips or mipsel machines.
You ch
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The surfraw project is up on alioth now. I'm not very experienced with CVS
(i've only really used Subversion, and that not very extensively---do we want
to use svn.debian.org instead of CVS? or does it interoperate? or just
stick to cvs?
Nick Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The reason I havn't offered them for general Debian machines is that there
> are already (generally better) machines available on better connections.
Last I checked, there weren't any public mips or mipsel machines.
--
Aaron M. Ucko, KB1CJC (amu at alu
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 09:40:44AM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 04:25:57PM +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote:
> > On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 19:34, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> > If your package has a bug affecting arm, login to debussy and fix it.
> > If your package has a bug a
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 05:19:24PM +0200, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
wrote:
> On Friday 25 July 2003 12:21, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 11:43:15AM +0200, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von
> > Bidder wrote:
> > > Hmmm. This is really funny. Look at
> > > http://fortytwo.c
Hi, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> There were no emotion. I just listed facts;
Sorry, but using the word "crap" crosses the line between fact and emotion.
>> We can't find a good solution to this problem, if indeed there is one,
>> if all we have is two rows of people on different sides of a long table,
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 09:21:47 +0100, Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
>> /usr/bin/editor is not only something invoked directly. It's also
>> invoked by programs as the default editor. And, if vim is the only
>> editor installed on the system,
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 06:46:16PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 09:45:01AM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> >...
> > > There are at least two ways how you can get an account on a machine in
> > > such a situation:
> > > - ask the Debian admins for a guest account on a machine
Discussing via emails seems to get hard again...
* Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030725 16:37]:
> Bernhard R. Link wrote:
> > Both a system presenting a utter mess of uneeded things and technical
> > terms and a system only saying "Installation successful" or
> > "Installation failed" are two end
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 09:45:01AM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
>...
> > There are at least two ways how you can get an account on a machine in
> > such a situation:
> > - ask the Debian admins for a guest account on a machine of this
> > architecture
>
> I was not aware that this was an opti
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 10:11:05AM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 11:05:25AM +0200, Michael Piefel wrote:
> > > Shouldn't that be sensible-editor?
> >
> > Which calls editor if $VISUAL and $EDITOR aren't set, yes.
>
> Interesting that if sensible-editor
* Petter Reinholdtsen
> - Preconfigure the packages we install
>
> Using two different approaches: (1) Load answers into the debconf
> database before the packages are installed using some home-make
> scripts, and (2) rewrite/replace configuration files using
> cfengine
On Jul 25, Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Could you give examples of your "nobody has enough time or interest to
>fix toy architectures"?
I already gave many in this thread.
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On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 04:03:21PM +0200, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
wrote:
> On Wednesday 23 July 2003 22:44, Branden Robinson wrote:
> > Please send these individual pieces of commentary/feedback to the bugs
> > themselves as well.
>
> I'll do it in those cases where my commentary is
Colin Watson wrote:
> Bob Proulx wrote:
> > I personally would not have had either elvis or vim supply an
> > alternative for /usr/bin/editor.
>
> I don't mind lowering the priority of vi clones, or whatever; but please
> don't try to get them removed from the editor alternative. It's quite
> suffi
Colin Watson wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 11:05:25AM +0200, Michael Piefel wrote:
> > Am 25.07.03 um 09:21:47 schrieb Colin Watson:
> > > /usr/bin/editor is not only something invoked directly. It's also
> > > invoked by programs as the default editor.
> >
> > Shouldn't that be sensible-editor
On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 16:40, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 04:25:57PM +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote:
> > On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 19:34, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> >
> > > So, are you volunteering to help those of us without access to
> > > either of the above architectures wit
On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 21:23, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> Now you're assuming that I have access to the Debian machines. TMK,
> these machines are *not* public access machines, but instead are
> accessible to full DDs only. This excludes all new maintainer
> applicants, myself included.
>
Ask the
As discussed during debcamp in Oslo, all the groups/projects making
debian based custom distributions should join together to find common
solutions to the common problems. This is a start, with a few of the
issues that Skolelinux had and solved.
- Automatic installation
Using the new debi
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 05:31:36PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 02:23:30PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
>
> > Now you're assuming that I have access to the Debian machines. TMK,
> > these machines are *not* public access machines, but instead are
> > accessible to full DD
On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 19:34, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 08:25:16PM +0200, Robert Lemmen wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 08:39:11PM +0300, Halil Demirezen wrote:
> > > Are we in dilemma on "should we support arch that are not used
> > > widely?" or "We should support all a
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 04:25:57PM +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 19:34, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
>
> > So, are you volunteering to help those of us without access to
> > either of the above architectures with "bugs" found in our packages?
> > I'm not saying that all arch
On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 02:23:30PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
>
> Now you're assuming that I have access to the Debian machines. TMK,
> these machines are *not* public access machines, but instead are
> accessible to full DDs only. This excludes all new maintainer
> applicants, myself includ
On Friday 25 July 2003 13:51, Michael Piefel wrote:
> Am 25.07.03 um 11:43:15 schrieb Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder:
> > Hmmm. This is really funny. Look at
> > http://fortytwo.ch/~avbidder/man-page.png.
>
> Good you mention it. File a bug against gnupg. It uses '-' in its
> manpage where it
On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 07:16:14PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Jul 24, Matthias Urlichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> If nobody volunteeers to make the crap ready,
> >Umm, using that word puts your mail firmly into the "flame" category,
> >especially for readers who actually care about
On Friday 25 July 2003 12:21, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 11:43:15AM +0200, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von
Bidder wrote:
> > On Friday 25 July 2003 11:10, Michael Piefel wrote:
> > > What's a "dash"? Sorry, but you have to be more specific here.
> > > There's the minus sign (usual
#include
* Michael Piefel [Fri, Jul 25 2003, 01:51:33PM]:
> > What I don't really get: I use the same font for almost everything
> > (lucidatypewriter), definitely so for the mail composer and the konsole. So
> > while the fact that copy-pasting it 'solves' the problem hints at a font
> > prob
Bernhard R. Link wrote:
> Both a system presenting a utter mess of uneeded things and technical
> terms and a system only saying "Installation successful" or
> "Installation failed" are two ends of user-unfriendly behaviour.
> While the first can be at least cured with a good documentation, the
> l
Jérôme Marant wrote:
> Userfirendliness means necessarily hiding technical details IMO, without
> dealing with graphical aspects. I think that D-i hasn't reach that
> state.
It seems you're not aware of the SkoleLinux distribution. SkoleLinux has
taken the current d-i, made very few changes, and p
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Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Umm. apt allows you to determine reverse depends. From there
> there is an easy hop to sending email to ask the develoeprsa in
> question; or to exaimine a package to look at its conffiles.
Slightly off-topic, is there any tool to easi
(Sorry for the dup, Dwayne, meant to send this to the list.)
On 24-Jul-03, 17:56 (CDT), "Dwayne C. Litzenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 02:50:05PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
> > Please don't. Is there *any* reason why defaulting
> > TMPDIR=/tmp/ is inferior to TMP
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 03:12:29PM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 11:20, Colin Watson wrote:
> > In groff \- is a dash, - is a hyphen. People need to use the right one.
> > If you have other problems let me know, since I'm not aware of any in
> > unstable right now.
>
> In unico
"Bernhard R. Link" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Taken this statement directly it's user-unfriendly in both the sense of
> newbie-unfriendly and experienced-unfriendly. (A newbie might like it,
> but he will still suffer from it).
There is a widespread tendency to consider "newbie" to mean
On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 02:07:35PM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 13:46, Stephen Frost wrote:
> > I see this as totally bogus. Either the conffile is shared or it isn't.
> > If it's shared then the packages involved know this
> Package foo which eliminates /etc/foo.conf doesn't
retitle 201391 ITA: yadex -- WAD file editor for doom-style WADs
stop
Hi,
I'd like to maintain yadex, which I'm using quite often, for debian.
Anyway it was about time for me to do something for debian, so adopting an
existing package should be the right way to start.
I've packaged it, changed c
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:13:13 +0100, Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
claimed:
[...]
> See groff_char(7). Technically it's Latin-1, but this is planned to
> change to UTF-8 for groff 2.0 (no schedule yet); groff_char(7) advises
> sticking to ASCII, and I agree. You can get everything in Latin-1
>
On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 11:21, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On 25 Jul 2003 09:20:20 +0200, Thomas Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > Conffiles are different in one respect, which that is that they can
> > be locally modified. When a conffile is to be overwritten and it
> > has been modified, the user
On Friday 25 July 2003 14:44, Xavier Roche wrote:
> This is great news. Discussions on opteron port will be done in -devel?
> (especially problems like /lib+/lib64 vs /lib+/lib32, upgrading problems
> from i386 to opteron without-breaking-anything, and more)
No, there is another list for these iss
On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 11:20, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 10:04:26AM +0100, David Pashley wrote:
> > Probably the biggest unicode problem I have noticed is with man and/or
> > less where it can't display dashes correctly. At least it doesn't seem
> > to work out of the box.
>
> In
On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 11:19, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Not really. Why do we need this overly micromanaging rule in
> policy? As long as it understood that user data is not to be deleted,
> why can't I put user data in /var/lib// if I so desire, as long
> as I take care to not rm -rf that
Martin Michlmayr - Debian Project Leader wrote:
Digital Network UK and FMS Computer have kindly agreed to donate
machines to Debian.
This is great news. Discussions on opteron port will be done in -devel?
(especially problems like /lib+/lib64 vs /lib+/lib32, upgrading problems
from i386 to optero
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 01:44:39PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Jul 25, Jesus Climent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Bind9, as provided in woody, keeps on falling to its knees for unknown
> >reasons. A strace might help, but so far i have not been able to either keep
> BIND 9 in woody is old
* Jérôme Marant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030725 13:03]:
> Userfirendliness means necessarily hiding technical details IMO, without
> dealing with graphical aspects.
Taken this statement directly it's user-unfriendly in both the sense of
newbie-unfriendly and experienced-unfriendly. (A newbie might l
* Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-07-25 08:27]:
> Back in April, AMD told us that they could not give us a machine:
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200304/msg01174.html
>
> Perhaps the situation has changed, and we should ping them again?
Digital Network UK and F
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 12:02:09AM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> > tolerances. When was the last time you had a motherboard, or CPU, or
> > network card, or a video card die because it was "too old"? This stuff
> > isn't exactly perishable. It lasts long beyond its obsolesc
This month's sourceforge spam says:
> AMD Quad Opteron System on Compile Farm
> -
> Are you curious how your latest code runs on a 4-way 64bit Opteron
> system? Now you can find out using the latest addition to
> Sourceforge.net's compile Farm. AMD has
On Jul 25, Jesus Climent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Bind9, as provided in woody, keeps on falling to its knees for unknown
>reasons. A strace might help, but so far i have not been able to either keep
BIND 9 in woody is old and buggy, that's all. Ask upstream about this
version and they will te
On Jul 24, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>This does not excuse broken, ugly x86isms in packages. The vast
>majority of portability problems are NOT confined to a single oddball
>architecture; they may manifest in different ways, but the bugs are
>usually there on multiple architec
On Jul 25, Robert Lemmen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>in that case it's the compiler or library that's buggy (as you said) and
>needs to be fixed. no reason to abandon the arch
As some of us are patiently trying to explain, the problem is that often
there are not enough resources to quickly diagn
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 01:43:52PM +0200, Michael Piefel wrote:
> Okay, so when somebody is not able to set their EDITOR variable, isn't
> it quite safe to assume that they are not the people who are satisfied
> with vi as their editor?
It could also be that they are people who only ever uses vi
Am 25.07.03 um 11:43:15 schrieb Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder:
> Hmmm. This is really funny. Look at
> http://fortytwo.ch/~avbidder/man-page.png.
Good you mention it. File a bug against gnupg. It uses '-' in its
manpage where it should use '\-'.
> What I don't really get: I use the same
Am 25.07.03 um 11:38:33 schrieb Andreas Metzler:
> No. see policy. sensible-editor is just for programs for which "it is
> very hard to adapt a program to make use of the EDITOR or PAGER
> variables"
Okay, so when somebody is not able to set their EDITOR variable, isn't
it quite safe to assume tha
Quoting "Bernhard R. Link" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> And my point was, that userfriendlyness and looking like Mandrake are
> orthogonal aspects. As the princible user-interaction of the
> bootfloppies is one of the most userfriendly around, I'd be very
> supprised, if debian-installer did not look si
On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 09:13:18PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
>
> Debian stable is horribly outdated but I'm not aware of any severe bugs.
> Could you provide some examples of severe bugs in Debian 3.0?
Bind9, as provided in woody, keeps on falling to its knees for unknown
reasons. A strace might
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On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 11:43:15AM +0200, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
wrote:
> On Friday 25 July 2003 11:10, Michael Piefel wrote:
> > What's a "dash"? Sorry, but you have to be more specific here.
> > There's the minus sign (usually introducing options) and the hyphen
> > (for hyphenatio
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 04:22:42AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 09:21:47 +0100, Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > /usr/bin/editor is not only something invoked directly. It's also
> > invoked by programs as the default editor. And, if vim is the only
> > editor ins
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 12:17:37PM +0200, Robert Lemmen wrote:
> actually i don't because i have no access to any arch except x86 and
> alpha. but that is only true for non-DDs like me and (i presume) you,
> DDs have access to all those architectures.
Although even with access to machines dependi
On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 01:37:18PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> Robert Lemmen writes:
> > any package that doesn't build on m68k or arm is broken and needs to be
> > fixed, even if it works on x86 by chance!
>
> Even when it fails to build due to compiler errors or buggy libraries?
in that case it
On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 12:34:29PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> > me too! any package that doesn't build on m68k or arm is broken and
> > needs to be fixed, even if it works on x86 by chance!
>
> So, are you volunteering to help those of us without access to either of
> the above architectures
* Jérôme Marant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030724 22:35]:
> But my point was the new debian-installed is not going to look like
> the current Mandrake 9.1 nor RedHat 9.0 (I've recently installed),
> at least for sarge.
And my point was, that userfriendlyness and looking like Mandrake are
orthogonal aspe
On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 11:12:44PM -0500, Thomas Smith wrote:
> Hi,
> On Tuesday, July 22, 2003, at 07:03 PM, Adam Borowski wrote:
> >
> >Just don't *dare* to let anyone remove /usr/bin/google or I'll kill
> >you,
> >your dog and your friend's uncle's son's ex-roommate's girlfriend's
> >aunt's
>
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 11:20:27AM +0200, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
wrote:
> The man (really: groff) issue is known, but AFAICT the fix is really, really
> difficult since groff just doesn't know anything about encodings, and the man
> page sources are in a variety of encodings. groff
Michael Piefel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Am 25.07.03 um 09:21:47 schrieb Colin Watson:
>> /usr/bin/editor is not only something invoked directly. It's also
>> invoked by programs as the default editor.
> Shouldn't that be sensible-editor?
No. see policy. sensible-editor is just for programs fo
On Friday 25 July 2003 11:10, Michael Piefel wrote:
> Am 25.07.03 um 10:04:26 schrieb David Pashley:
> > Probably the biggest unicode problem I have noticed is with man and/or
> > less where it can't display dashes correctly. At least it doesn't seem
> > to work out of the box.
>
> What's a "dash"?
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 09:21:47 +0100, Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> /usr/bin/editor is not only something invoked directly. It's also
> invoked by programs as the default editor. And, if vim is the only
> editor installed on the system, it had better be the default editor
> for such prog
On 25 Jul 2003 09:20:20 +0200, Thomas Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Conffiles are different in one respect, which that is that they can
> be locally modified. When a conffile is to be overwritten and it
> has been modified, the user is asked for permission and the old
> version is backed up a
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